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You shouldn't be outside.

And yes I've been doing graphics and editing for 15+ years.

Don't blame Apple for your work habits (and honestly stupidity).

You should be in a neutral environment if you are working on graphics/design/editing...not outside. Sorry but it's the truth.

Ryth, that's really unneccesary and cantankerous mate. Not too mention hugely ignorant. There is a reason why Apple sell half a million of their anti-glare options. Reflective glass adds unnatural colour saturation amongst other things. Something a 15+ year graphic editor should know. This is the reason why :apple: are working on a new type of non-reflective glass. I think you should show some respect to forum members and settle down on your superfluous posting.
 
You may want to actually read the article again - it CLEARLY stated that the 13" refresh may be a month of two beyond due to the fact that dual core Ivy Bridge are still a few months out. (As well as a staggered refresh of the 17" model.) So.... a 15" upgrade being first down the line makes perfect sense.... when you actually read the entire article.

I'd say that the timeline and Best Buy having a shortage is a credible evidence of a redesign. Never mind the hundreds of rumors for the past few months about a redesign of the entire line.

At this point I doubt there is anyone who doesn't think a 15" refresh is imminent.... pants or no pants.

I've read the actual article. The point of the article isn't that Quad-Core Mobile Ivy Bridge CPUs are due in April where Dual-Core Mobile Ivy Bridge CPUs are due in June. Apple will wait if they have to get at least the 13" and the 15" updated at the same time. It is extremely atypical that they update the sizes one at a time (the only other time that they did this was with the Intel transition). The point of the article was that the 15" MacBook Pros are in short supply, and my point was that typically the start of the official omg-refreshez-are-coming-lolololoroflcopter flurry is when one model is in short supply, and that it doesn't mean that the refresh is imminent, it just means that we have 1-2 more months to go, which is perfectly in line with Apple's one MacBook Pro refresh every 8-10 months schedule. The MacBook Pro refreshes are like clockwork; this is a natural step in that process that is indicative of another 1-2 months to go; right on time.
 
I've read the actual article. The point of the article isn't that Quad-Core Mobile Ivy Bridge CPUs are due in April where Dual-Core Mobile Ivy Bridge CPUs are due in June. Apple will wait if they have to get at least the 13" and the 15" updated at the same time. It is extremely atypical that they update the sizes one at a time (the only other time that they did this was with the Intel transition). The point of the article was that the 15" MacBook Pros are in short supply, and my point was that typically the start of the official omg-refreshez-are-coming-lolololoroflcopter flurry is when one model is in short supply, and that it doesn't mean that the refresh is imminent, it just means that we have 1-2 more months to go, which is perfectly in line with Apple's one MacBook Pro refresh every 8-10 months schedule. The MacBook Pro refreshes are like clockwork; this is a natural step in that process that is indicative of another 1-2 months to go; right on time.
Well if I have to wait 2 months to have the 2012 15" then so be it. I'd rather that than spend 2 thousand pounds on something that's going to get outdated in 60 days. But we'll see.
 
Come on...where the 'Shut up and take my money photo'...and no I'm not posting it.


I can see this issue with a desktop, but you have a laptop...it's movable...

Move
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...Most people have multiple windows in every room of the house. I know we do.

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Many prosumers had to get a tower back in the day because it was all Apple offered for the most part in terms of a mid level machine even.

Of course.. they also used to start at $1699... and as very nicely upgradeable, unlike the iMac...

In terms of the MBAir/MBPro, offering 'Pro' options is hardly more work for them minus a few tweaks here and there of the internals, especially if they are moving to a similar design for the Air and MBPro.

Are you joking?

To fit a quad core chip, more RAM slots and all possible dedicated graphics card (which would go into the ODD slot now) isn't much work for the team.

Yeah. That's why Apple was the first successful Ultrabook maker... are you JOKING? Have you ever *heard* the term TDP? And MORE RAM SLOTS? You're just so out of your mind. Have you ever taken a look at any of these boards? They use every square centimeter of space... honestly it's like you're from another planet..
 
Probably too little too late

I'm ready for a new 17" model. If it comes a few months later than the 15" model it sounds like I'd be purchasing old technology. I'm also ready for a new Mac Pro.
 
The 13" Pro is kind of the redheaded stepchild of the MacBook lineup right now and has been for a while. Think back to mid-2010 when we were still sporting C2Ds because 13" Pros use integrated graphics.
Video editing is painful with my current C2D 2010 MBP, can't wait to get the upgrade.

A quad core MBP 13 with dedicated graphics would be perfect,
I don't feel id be able to spend all that amount of money on a modern notebook now,that doesn't have these 2 specs.

The current MBP 15 is a little too bulky/heavy, so if there was a weight and size reduction with the new models, I could probably be persuaded to go with it.

I believe they will remove the ODD, and use the space for a bigger battery, to power a higher resolution screen. Ive also got a feeling they may retire the firewire slots once and for all.

Also if the price of the 512GB SSD option was reduced this would be great. :cool:


Finally, I hope they DONT merge the lines; I REFUSE to buy a notebook where you can't upgrade the memory in the future?? :eek:
 
Reflective glass adds unnatural colour saturation amongst other things. Something a 15+ year graphic editor should know. This is the reason why :apple: are working on a new type of non-reflective glass. I think you should show some respect to forum members and settle down on your superfluous posting.

Thats why I don't have a Reflective Apple monitor and that's why I don't editgraphics or color correct outside but in a room with neutral color/background behind our monitors.

The bitching about reflective stuff needs to stop.

Stop doing stupid things like work that should be done inside while sitting outside..or even better...work at night outside..problem solved (but Im sure then people will complain about the Moon or Streetlights)

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...Most people have multiple windows in every room of the house. I know we do.

So work in a room without windows or cover your windows with appropriate shades to block out the natural light.

Yeah. That's why Apple was the first successful Ultrabook maker... are you JOKING? Have you ever *heard* the term TDP? And MORE RAM SLOTS? You're just so out of your mind. Have you ever taken a look at any of these boards? They use every square centimeter of space... honestly it's like you're from another planet..

And Apple will prove again that they will have no problem making the Air and MBPro similar in size/design and offer both dual and quad versions in a slim form factor.
 
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I really like my 2011 high res matt 15" MBP. I replaced the optical drive slot with an OWC DataDoubler for the 750GB hard drive and put a 256GB Crucial m4 in the regular hard drive slot, then I put 16 gigs of ram in it.

The new MBP is going to have to be something pretty special to make me want it. This is the best workstation I've ever owned or used. A terabyte of storage and enough ram to run several VMs while mobile. I don't see how "thin" is going to turn my head.

Thanks a lot for this suggestion. If an optical bay is kept and macbook pro 13" has integrated graphics ivy bridge i will be doing this.... I almost hope they keep the optical bay!
I like the idea of having 2 bays if i can have 120gb ssd ($200) for most of my operations (what i would pay for solo ssd apple upgrade) and keep my 500-750gb hdd. Best of both worlds... IMO

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Thanks a lot for this suggestion. If an optical bay is kept and macbook pro 13" has integrated graphics ivy bridge i will be doing this.... I almost hope they keep the optical bay!
I like the idea of having 2 bays if i can have 120gb ssd ($200) for most of my operations (what i would pay for solo ssd apple upgrade) and keep my 500-750gb hdd. Best of both worlds... IMO

also i like the idea of adding my own gear to laptop which will be done away with if new form factor is adopted. Upgradability once prices come down is desirable to me... and lets face it apple charges way too much for upgrades that one can do themselves!

P.S Optical drives suck but i like the extra bay!
 
Waiting for Apple to refresh the iMac's before I buy one.

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BTW All MBP are in stock on bestbuy.com as of right now.
 
So work in a room without windows or cover your windows with appropriate shades to block out the natural light.

You have got to be joking. Because that is so much easier than a company giving an anti-glare option so their products are usable.

In real-world use, I have never seen a situation in which the glossy screens weren't problematic frequently. And I work in a place with hundreds of Macs of all flavors.
 
Boring. Nothing happened. I can no longer look at the stupid resolutionary front page. It is spring time and the bores at apple should be greeting the new season with at least scantly dressed beautiful women. What a let down...zero creativity and no guts.
 
Whats the chances of 3G / 4G connectivity in any revision ?
Low, I should think. Would need to be multiple models for multiple carriers unless Apple came up with a truly universal radio chip, and even then they'd be subject to coverage and evolving standards. People are used to refreshing their phones much more frequently than their [more-expensive] laptops. I'd be surprised to see Apple keep doing ExpressCard or some other stillborn interface for a modular approach -- telcos offer USB dongles that work well for those who want this sort of connectivity and are willing to pay the telco's outrageous fees.
..Most people have multiple windows in every room of the house. I know we do.
Windows also aren't the only sources of glare and annoying reflections. Floor lamps. Overhead lighting. The white refrigerator behind me as I type. Glossy displays also reflect my own ugly mug, and that's almost the last thing I want to look at. Those who run everything dark-on-light might not be as affected, but I really like my Terminal.app windows to be color-on-black, and an expanse of black really shows the reflections.

Glare isn't the only drawback of a glossy display - like stainless-steel appliances, they also show fingerprints and other crud (achoo!) like crazy.
I believe they will remove the ODD
This seems fairly likely.
and use the space for a bigger battery
I'm skeptical. How many people routinely need more battery? My 2007 MBP rarely runs without wall power.
to power a higher resolution screen.
Why would more pixels need more power??
Ive also got a feeling they may retire the firewire slots once and for all.
They couldn't possibly be *that* stupid, could they? I guess some sort of TB<-->FW dongle would be ... acceptable, but annoying.
Also if the price of the 512GB SSD option was reduced this would be great.
The price deltas between 128->256->512 GB SSD's may decrease, but I wouldn't expect the 512 to become substantially more affordable. I would think that the niche to which a 512GB SSD is important can continue to be gouged for it. We may see the 128 offered as the "default" storage option, though, but I have to believe that a disk option for higher capacity will continue to be offered.
Stop doing stupid things like work that should be done inside while sitting outside..or even better...work at night outside..problem solved (but Im sure then people will complain about the Moon or Streetlights)
Working outside has always been a nice idea but I've never found it to be practical - especially trying to balance a laptop on my legs/lap and still be able to type.
People can vote your comment down all they want but the saturation on the cinema display may look great on the cinema display but those colors won't we reproduced on any other screen.
Even all the other glossy displays out there?
 
People can vote your comment down all they want but the saturation on the cinema display may look great on the cinema display but those colors won't we reproduced on any other screen.

Thanks. It's all good...graphic designers are a minority, and Apple shouldn't (and won't) cater to them. But anyone who thinks the matte display is just about avoiding glare is sadly mistaken.
 
Working outside has always been a nice idea but I've never found it to be practical - especially trying to balance a laptop on my legs/lap and still be able to type.
You just need something like this: http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/notebook-products/cooling-pads/devices/4841

This kind of pad not only helps with the heat of the laptop, it also helps a lot with keeping it on your lap comfortably.

I was a bit skeptical at first but since it's very cheap I just bought it to give it a try. Nowadays I do most of my work from my couch, unless I need the bigger screen or the mouse which, thanks to the touchpad gestures and multiple desktop's ease of use, doesn't happen that frequently.
 
Does anyone have a rough clue as to how long it has taken in the past for a rumour like this in which 3rd party stocks are limited until the line is refreshed?
 
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