I don't recall them ever being not scrutinized, the only difference is this time their display actually does kind of suck.
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Retina iPad Mini's Display Criticized Over Poor Color Gamut and Accuracy
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I don't recall them ever being not scrutinized, the only difference is this time their display actually does kind of suck.
My husband and I held both the air and retina side by side in Best Buy the other day. While we did spot minor differences in a couple of the icons, we actually felt sillly for scrutinizing them that much. Like others mentioned, we were searching hard for imperfections. What we found definitely didn't justify disappointment on our part. We aren't photographers or graphic designers. And when the two units were farther than a couple inches apart, the differences went away.
I knew though, walking in, that we'd end up purchasing a rmini over the air. When considering a device, there are key things I am looking for, in order of importance:
1.) IOS: The most important to me. Hate Andriod, bored with Windows.
2.) Form factor: The air is too big for my taste. Size is much more important to me than a minor difference in a couple of colors. Size is in-your-face-obvious, which is why I am so surprised so many are trading their rmini's for airs based on color alone.
3.) Functionality: I want something with modern hardware, something that will give us at least 2-3 years of use. Something with a good amount of power. Something that I can load good productivity apps on and that can keep up with them.
4.) Screen quality: While I do appreciate a good, colorful retina screen, it is not crucial. Form factor and functionality weight much more heavily than screen quality.
Air misses out on my second most important requirement, thus the rmini is for me.
I knew though, walking in, that we'd end up purchasing a rmini over the air. When considering a device, there are key things I am looking for, in order of importance:
1.) IOS: The most important to me. Hate Andriod, bored with Windows.
2.) Form factor: The air is too big for my taste. Size is much more important to me than a minor difference in a couple of colors. Size is in-your-face-obvious, which is why I am so surprised so many are trading their rmini's for airs based on color alone.
3.) Functionality: I want something with modern hardware, something that will give us at least 2-3 years of use. Something with a good amount of power. Something that I can load good productivity apps on and that can keep up with them.
4.) Screen quality: While I do appreciate a good, colorful retina screen, it is not crucial. Form factor and functionality weight much more heavily than screen quality.
Air misses out on my second most important requirement, thus the rmini is for me.
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You missed my point; there may not be enough IGZO production capacity for both the iPad Air and the Retina iPad Mini. No IGZO screen means more power consumption for the Retina iPad Mini.
My query was whether there was an IGZO screen in the Retina iPad Mini (most likely not) and whether Apple reduced the gamut to mitigate some of the power consumption of the screen (possibly).
See the smiley at the end of the post? That's there to indicate sarcasm and gaiety. You know, to lighten the mood a little bit. Perhaps you just need to remove the stick from your
...Wow, I hear so much "Baaaaa Baaaaa" in this thread more so than ever. Defending mighty apple like apple is your parent.
Sheesh, it's so blatantly clear apple did this gimping on the color panel on purpose. This is to have greater profit margins plain and simple. Money is the #1 goal these days for apple.yeah, you're right, maybe 99% of people would notice the difference in color when looking at both devices, side by side, after being told to look for a difference in color. but i still suspect those same 99% of people would not have noticed there was anything wrong with the color output without articles and forums like this. but i could be wrong. i'm sure now that the word is out, everyone is an expert in color reproduction.
This, exactly. Considering that the Air doesn't even net you additional screen real estate, there isn't a huge argument to be made for it being a superior "professional" tool.
Hmmmmmm...
...maybe there WAS a reason for not having a Retina iPad Mini after all!! Well I, for one, couldn't see the point of it in the first place and now, I would reason, at least some of the people who wanted it don't see it now, either. I even think that Apple felt pressured by you lot into making this! Still - I'll hang out for the Retina iMac - God only knows how I NEED one of those...
...maybe there WAS a reason for not having a Retina iPad Mini after all!! Well I, for one, couldn't see the point of it in the first place and now, I would reason, at least some of the people who wanted it don't see it now, either. I even think that Apple felt pressured by you lot into making this! Still - I'll hang out for the Retina iMac - God only knows how I NEED one of those...
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BREAKING NEWS: Apple reports having found the solution to not having enough iPad minis for the holidays - poor "color gamut".
I think peoples issue is paying a premium for a "fine" product. People don't buy Apple products to get an adequate product. When you are priced double of what your competition is then "fine" is not acceptable. IMO
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...what? Is this really a dealbreaker for the people wanted to upgrade their iPad Mini? I guess most of them do not ever realize this difference if not any.
Yes, you can open the product and as long as you don't damage it, return it with no penalty. The standard window is 2 weeks, but if you bought it online you actually have until January 7th to return it now due to their Holiday product window. It should give you the exact date on your receipt.
I need to make a quick reference to the iPhone 5C - aka, the iPhone 5Crap - look at how they are doing in sales vs. a premium iPhone 5S - do you really think apple did the right thing with going plastic, colored plastic? Make a promo video with jony Ive trying to fake out having plastic is the new hip thing?
It was pure money grubbing by apple to go plastic 5C - why did they discontinue the regular 5? Because of money grubbing tactics. Look how bad that 5C is doing now - you guys who praise apple need to stop. The only great innovation came from the iPhone 4 and that presentation still to this day is the best presentation ever. Packed full of new and great features. These days, it's all dribbles and crumbs from apple and they just think people will buy their marketing crap. Well, if you are an iSheep,of course you will!
It was pure money grubbing by apple to go plastic 5C - why did they discontinue the regular 5? Because of money grubbing tactics. Look how bad that 5C is doing now - you guys who praise apple need to stop. The only great innovation came from the iPhone 4 and that presentation still to this day is the best presentation ever. Packed full of new and great features. These days, it's all dribbles and crumbs from apple and they just think people will buy their marketing crap. Well, if you are an iSheep,of course you will!
this is for most people not a big problem or a deal breaker. the screen is good enough.
however it is shocking that apple as market leader can't get screens that match the quality of competitors.
Also even if it's not a big issue the image of the mini having a inferior screen will certainly hurt resale prices.
however it is shocking that apple as market leader can't get screens that match the quality of competitors.
Also even if it's not a big issue the image of the mini having a inferior screen will certainly hurt resale prices.
See post #201.
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I know, I think that's the most depressing part.
Apple wasnt saying the mini is the same as the regular ipad. They made it clear the mini had an inferior screen. Its all about expectations.
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Just like it did this year.
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Isn't there something about more manufacturers getting in on making screens for RiPad Mini, due to low yield of the primary screen supplier, and an issue about image retention?
I wonder if color gamut would improve on a RiPad mini a bit later, with alternate vendors, and some process improvements to help avoid image retention.
I doubt this will make a huge difference to the non-geek public, but it may push a few geek buyers to iPad Air, rather than retina mini for now...
But I do wonder if not being an early adopter... might get a bit better in the next few months.
It is unfortunate to have initial minor issues, but it does happen, probably as much or more with other brands, than with Apple. It is always more common to nit-pick the king of the hill.
I wonder if color gamut would improve on a RiPad mini a bit later, with alternate vendors, and some process improvements to help avoid image retention.
I doubt this will make a huge difference to the non-geek public, but it may push a few geek buyers to iPad Air, rather than retina mini for now...
But I do wonder if not being an early adopter... might get a bit better in the next few months.
It is unfortunate to have initial minor issues, but it does happen, probably as much or more with other brands, than with Apple. It is always more common to nit-pick the king of the hill.
I think some other people might agree but Apple tries never to make the specs worse in a newer generation device than in an old one.
Currently, the battery time in the mini 2 is as good as and probably better than the mini.
The gamut is the same in the mini 2 as the mini.
Note - For those people that are claiming the mini 2 should have a better gamut then the mini because of the price increase, you are paying for a retina display, a total internal redesign including an A7, and a higher capacity battery.
Yeah, I guess if you don't even try to go somewhere, you can't cut any corners getting there, amirite?
What??? I thought we were entitled to the latest and greatest technology in every purchase we make? After all, we can't return it so they are mandated to give us every single specification that we ask for even if we didn't know it existed prior to the product being released.
The battery is actually fantastic, which is why I don't mind losing an hour if it would net me accurate color.
I don't think people were necessarily praising the gamut on the original mini, either. At that point, the low resolution took much more of the focus (people were clamoring for retina before the original was even released). The color is a pretty striking difference though, and should be addressed just the same.
