Yup, we agree on that one. Actually, that's exactly why I used that particular image.
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Retina iPad Mini's Display Criticized Over Poor Color Gamut and Accuracy
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Yup, we agree on that one. Actually, that's exactly why I used that particular image.
There, fixed it for you.
What bugs me most is that the crippled gamut and yellow tint issue is not a surprise to anyone working on the rMini at Apple. The product and engineering teams will instantly and instinctively notice even the tiniest difference between screens - they do it for a living. But they looked at this jikey panel and said 'yeah, whatever, people will still buy it'.
And that's the difference between Apple now and Apple 10 years ago.
And that's the difference between Apple now and Apple 10 years ago.
Completely agree.
Though there Apple has a huge advantage....
New Apple products will sell, that is a given. The Ipad mini retina will be another success.
Bull. The 8.9" Kindle Fire HDX also features an LTPS display.
Stop making excuses for Apple, they pay PR flacks good money to do that job.
Having a far inferior screen to the $239 nexus 7 isn't impressive
Using the same color gamut as an iPad 2 from 2011 isn't impressive
Charging $400 for this device and using old tech isn't impressive
To be fair, many of us had already raised the issue in the iPad-specific forum long before the Anandtech article came out; those topics just don't get as much attention as the "front page news" ones do. And the shortcomings with the new iPad Mini were clear to me from the moment I picked it up - it wasn't until much later that I sat down and did a photo comparison.
I'm not the guy that was throwing barbs your way, nor am I attacking what you originally said... this place does get a little ridiculous at times. But the issue is a legit one, and we shouldn't all be lumped together just because some people's rhetoric is more colorful than others.
Fair enough. I never read those threads you mention, and was limited to the (glaring) reviews by what I consider to be level-headed sources, and none of them mentioned the problem. If this is a real issue, cool, return the product. But it does sound like something being blown out of proportion, as the subject just gained traction after Anandtech's piece (and, I repeat, several reviews by tech-savvy sites/people say nothing of it).
Thanks for putting it in a reasonable, rational manner.
This is not a joke, my 55-year old mom who wasn't wearing her reading glasses and who has astigmatism even noticed the bottom 1/4 of her new rMini with a warm white compared to the rest of the screen being cool white. That's pretty bad. The screen should be an even temperature. Don't get me started on the colour gamut/spectrum, yes it's the same as the original Mini and iPad 2 but I could live with it. The yellow screen was annoying though.
Returned both mine and her rMini's, ordered ones online this time hopefully they're better or I'm getting the old Mini's for both of us off craigslist probably.
Returned both mine and her rMini's, ordered ones online this time hopefully they're better or I'm getting the old Mini's for both of us off craigslist probably.
To sum up 12 pages of nonsense: if you don't like the "color gamut" of the iPad mini, don't buy it.
Apple doesn't read internet forums, so the only thing they pay attention to is sales. All of this incessant whining is a waste of your time.
Apple doesn't read internet forums, so the only thing they pay attention to is sales. All of this incessant whining is a waste of your time.
Just goes to show how worthless Engadget and TheVerge are as tech review sites. How can they be so bad at their job and still HAVE a job? It's like a doctor who doesn't even know how to measure blood pressure, but hey the patient looks great, 10/10 would ogle again.
More likely, they had prototypes with several screen options, some of them with color quality equal to that of the iPad Air. The final decision would have been made by non-engineers, with bean counters, executives, and Cook himself weighing in. I'd bet good money that at least a few engineers were pissed that Apple went with the inferior display option.
They probably gimped the display to meet profit margin requirements. It's a balancing act between the Mini and Air, with the constant threat of the lower margin Mini cannibalizing the Air's phat margins. Apple's worst nightmare is that consumers would prefer the cheaper Mini to the Air. To Apple, the Mini isn't just "different size", but "second tier product offering".
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Speaking of wasting time, why are you here? You seem to have taken it upon yourself to police the optimism on this board. Why?
Putting my retina iPad mini next to my iPhone 5, I could hardly see any difference. I still admire the brilliance and quality of the screen each time I use it. Seems like a lot of this is being blown out of proportion by iPad air owners bashing the iPad mini in order to justify their purchase. I have found this to be quite a common occurrence with competing products. Same thing happened with Xbox one vs ps4
Normal people
Normal people are perfectly happy with their Android tablets and Windows PCs. Normal people do not believe, Apple products could be any better in quality than what they have for half the price. Normal people think, Apple prices are all about luxury branding and a religious cult of customers.
I am not going to proof them right in paying this money for that quality.
And even back than some people argued, normal people wouldn't see a difference between retina and non-retina displays. Now normal people are supposed to not see any differences in color gamut. You know what? Normal people do not buy Apple products in the first place.
Normal people are perfectly happy with their Android tablets and Windows PCs. Normal people do not believe, Apple products could be any better in quality than what they have for half the price. Normal people think, Apple prices are all about luxury branding and a religious cult of customers.
I am not going to proof them right in paying this money for that quality.
"I paid $100 more for a slightly larger version of the exact same thing made by the same company, therefore I must defend my purchase to the death and find things to nitpick about the one I didn't choose so I'll feel good about spending a very slightly larger amount".
...what? For one, they're not even competing products. Two, that's like saying people who bought 13" MBAs go around and bash the 11" Airs simply because they bought one and not the other.
I think the only thing we're seeing here is slight disappointment. People who wanted the Mini to be a smaller iPad with nearly the same specs and quality parts, yet didn't quite get what they expected.
The unwashed masses do not buy Apple products. They're only for us high brow rich snobby types.
Hence why they only sell in the tens of millions, and we're always on here bragging about iDevices being the single highest selling products in their particular markets. Cuz, you know, poor people olol android.
I get it. When Apple's specs are clearly superior then Apple rules. When Apple's specs are inferior then people are being too picky cuz Apple still rules!
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There is a difference in color Gamut between the rMini and Air. No doubt about it. The question is how many people will actually care. It's like HDTV's. So many of them out there are calibrated poorly out of the box, even when they cost $5000. I have to bite my lip when friends get new tv's and say isn't that a really great picture, with great color? I want to say no, no it's not. But I don't because I don't want to ruin their experience. Sometimes ignorance is bliss, and to most people, ignorance is what they want.
I was referring to the full size ipad. I have an iPad 4 and the screen is really really good. No yellowing, uneven tints, or image retention.
Thanks for posting this...I was concerned but not anymore....I am pressed to see much of a difference if any so I am still happy with my soon to arrive iPad Mini Retina.
Stupid stupid apple, there was no need for this dense a screen on the already dense screen iPad mini other than to appease the people who think they can see a difference (or are holding the iPad mini to close to their faces).
i would rather have had the same iPad mini screen with a MUCH better battery life and the new 64bit GPU than a crappy screen with issues at a higher resolution that i wont notice because i hold my iPad mini at a sensible distance from my face during use. Maybe saving Retina for the next model when they could do it properly ?
Retina iPad mini = Gold plated digital cables IMO, utterly useless and offers no real world difference, but people will SWEAR they can see/hear a difference after forking out for them.
You seriously need to get your eyes checked...
What gets me about this thread is the implication that those of us that are still purchasing the rmini are idiots after knowing the screen is inferior. So enlighten us, please, in the best course of action. Most considering the mini want or need the small form factor and the air is not an option. Most of us considering the mini are not satisfied with the Android or Windows OS. What other option is there? None that I can come up with. While I agree the price is a bit steep for the product, there's no other option that checks all the boxes. To imply we are sheeple because of lack of other options makes no sense.