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Retina iPad Mini's Display Criticized Over Poor Color Gamut and Accuracy
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Please stop comparing the two. The N7 has well known GPS issues and touch screen issues. The GPS issues are still unfixed even after a google software update. There is an 11 page thread of people unable to get a GPS lock with the device.
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Have fun with it. I do not trust it. People had touch screen issues and to this day are having GPS issues. I thought about buying one but once I read about all the issues and the lack of tablet specific apps on google play, I changed my mind. Besides that, money is not an object for me. I can afford the rMini.
What you say makes reasonable sense, though I would say that the original iPad came out barely three years ago; to say that you "need" it for productivity seems a bit overstated... what ever did you do all of the years before tablets existed?
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You clearly didn't read what I wrote... I'm not talking about adjusting your display to "match" a better one, simply modifying the parameters within the boundaries of what the hardware presents to make whatever screen you're looking at more pleasing. I can't drive a display past 67% if that is its limit, but I can alter the hues, contrast, and brightness to find a balance that works best for the particular device. If an iPad screen is tending toward magenta or yellow, well too bad... there's nothing you can do about it.
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So it's better than something that wasn't very good to begin with. What does that prove, again?
What Floats Your Boat?
1. Lots of people bought the original mini because the screen was good enough. Their perception was forgiving of the non-retina display - just as those who bought the original iPads. For me, after owning an iPhone 5, I could not tolerate the resolution of original mini. After seeing the new mini, I was blown away by the clarity of the screen - it was just so very easy to view, no eye fatige, no screen door distraction. For me and most other folks who don't need 100% color accuracy, the new mini is more than "good enough' - it's great. BTW, I'd bet that the slightly reduced gamut "issue" is at least partially due to the reduced pixel size compared to the iPad Air.
2. For those who ask (sarcastically or otherwise) why folks don't just spend a little more for a Macbook Air... Well, the Macbook Air does not have the same resolution of the Retina iPads (though they have great screens) - to get a Retina Macbook would set you back a lot more than the cost of any Retina iPad, and it wouldn't have the portability. In other words, much of the comparisons are nonsense - you gets what you pays for... Just get what you need and can afford.
1. Lots of people bought the original mini because the screen was good enough. Their perception was forgiving of the non-retina display - just as those who bought the original iPads. For me, after owning an iPhone 5, I could not tolerate the resolution of original mini. After seeing the new mini, I was blown away by the clarity of the screen - it was just so very easy to view, no eye fatige, no screen door distraction. For me and most other folks who don't need 100% color accuracy, the new mini is more than "good enough' - it's great. BTW, I'd bet that the slightly reduced gamut "issue" is at least partially due to the reduced pixel size compared to the iPad Air.
2. For those who ask (sarcastically or otherwise) why folks don't just spend a little more for a Macbook Air... Well, the Macbook Air does not have the same resolution of the Retina iPads (though they have great screens) - to get a Retina Macbook would set you back a lot more than the cost of any Retina iPad, and it wouldn't have the portability. In other words, much of the comparisons are nonsense - you gets what you pays for... Just get what you need and can afford.
...which shows exactly how little either of them know.
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Who buys a 16 GB Wi-fi only? lol
I don't so much care about color gamut numbers. I don't have the first generation iPad Mini. I just compared the Retina Mini to my iPad 3 and its display was unacceptably washed out to me. So I returned it. Why should anyone plunk down their hard earned money on something they are not satisfied with? What's "entitled" about that?
An actual Nexus 7 owner. Hilarious.
I've heard there are millions of them out there.
People who are able to settle with unbelievable crap.
Since millions of people can't do wrong, maybe Apple should have sticked with non-retina iPad minis?
This is interesting.
I don't think Apple gambles. They make compromises. I don't know the technical details about LTPS LCD, but I know that IZGO displays are power efficient and thin, exactly what Apple wants.
Does LTPS LCD provide the same capabilities? I mean, the Mini gets so much love is because it's thin and battery life is amazing. If LTPS LCD resulted in thicker, more power hungry devices, than I'm happy Apple went with IZGO.
Maybe someone could help me out here? What are the consequences of chosing LTPS LCD over IZGO and vice versa?
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The resolution is amazing. It's thin and light. It's incredibly powerful. Batterylife is superb, AND it's got iOS.
Because face it: on tablets, Android doesn't stand a chance against iOS. Sure, if you want a portable mediaplayer Android's the way to go, but for browsing/apps/productivity the iPad is so much better. Lots of good apps, way better aspect ratio (browsing in 16:9 is just awkward), it's a truly futuristisch product as opposed to blown up phones.
No matter how good the screens of Nexus 7-like tablets are, they're blown up phones. Fun, but nothing special. iPad is a different league.
Do people still read anandtech?
Seriously read a real site like Jim Dalrymple's Loop Insight or John Gruber's Daring Fireball for a real take on technology. Both of them posted glowing reviews of the iPad Mini with Retina Display and there was no mention of the gamut in either review. Both Jim and John have impeccable standards and demand the best from their devices and they highly recommended the Retina Mini. That was good enough for me to make the purchase of an iPad Mini with Retina Display and i could not be happier.
You're nuts.
People who realise that:
$100 (£80) for a further 16GB,
$200 (£160) for a further 48GB
$300 (£240) for a further 112GB
is unacceptable. I agree that Apple products are expensive because they are classed as premium products, but memory is memory.
The screen on the rMini is very impressive but I do see the slightly washed out colors vs my iPad 3
But for me the biggest issue is the small text size. Can't decide on whether I want to keep it. I do love the form factor though
Landscape text size is perfect
But for me the biggest issue is the small text size. Can't decide on whether I want to keep it. I do love the form factor though
Landscape text size is perfect
Everyone always gambles because nothing is ever certain. Even in mathematics there are some conjectures based on believe. Never proved or disproved, they are "only" most likely to be true. So the real difference between science and religion is the level of probability with which their predictions become reality.
Assuming Apple always wants to have the best possible product being available in quantities on the day after the announcement, and their choice of technology is the reason why they couldn't deliver in time and quality. They misgambled on IGZO and should have gone with LTPS in hindsight. Who could have known in advance?
If everything did turn out as Apple wished it would, than we have to ask ourselves, where do Apples priorities lie and if they are in the right place?
And I would happily sacrifice an hour of battery life for having a top-notch retina display. The display is the main interaction method with the computer. How can you not want it to be a top priority? I like thin and light as much as anyone else. I would love to exchange my iPad 3 for an iPad mini. But giving up ~40% color gamut deliberately, means color accuracy isn't a concern at all. And I don't want to believe that.
Both technologies are said to be good for high pixel densities and low power consumption. And one of them is just now becoming to be known for narrow color gamut.
That's in your brain. Turn the tablet upside down (unlock the screen) and you'll see the yellow tint stays on the same side.
Learn to enjoy it. It's part of life, since everything has left or right bias.
I haven't read the whole thread yet, but who is saying the mini is IGZO already?
I don't think it is, and that's the problem. If Soneira could write coherent sentences (and reports), he would have carefully drawn the distinctions. The Air is IGZO, he says, and the mini is not, he implies.
When Apple gets its IGZO together, the gamut problem will be solved, because they will use the same color backlighting scheme they used for the Air with fewer energy compromises.
They had a better chance of getting IGZO ready than ramping up LTPS by 2013, that's the way I read it,
Soneira is being incoherent, or he's in Amazon's pocket. I prefer to believe he's just incoherent as a writer.
Gudi is not correct in his last sentence, unless the mini uses IGZO. I don't think it does. I guess I have to read the whole thread.
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Just returned the air for a Rmini . Shame...the apple logo starts at the top of the screen instead of the middle. I wish apps would stay open longer than 10mins like on the air though. Should've kept the air.
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Moreover, they don't need to advertise the "gamut" issue. The Gamut was the same on the original iPad mini. They just improved the resolution. They technically haven't done anything wrong. MR expectations of the product grossly exceed Apple's reality.
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what?
Not sure what your point is other than looking like a 12-year old w/ the "LOL."
I was an editor for quite a bit of years so I'm well aware of the fundamentals of aspect ratios, film, formats, digital displays, etc.
My point was it would be a lot easier for everything and everyone if there only was ONE widescreen, ONE full screen, etc.
I'm fully aware of the problems that would cause in our world today BECAUSE of the history and the different evolution of it all...
It was a thought, an opinion.
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Not saying it isn't. Just pointing something out.
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Never said there wasn't. Just made a statement - an observation.
And you're right, just b/c they're both 16:9 doesn't mean they both work at their individual sizes.