because the thing just isn't very good at categorizing stuff based on the context.
does it not learn over time?
because the thing just isn't very good at categorizing stuff based on the context.
I'm completely open to the possibility that I'm using it wrong somehow, but it feels like it categorizes half my emails at random. I have no confidence that emails from my doctor won't end up in "Promotions." Concert tickets end up in "Updates" rather than "Transactions." And I don't think it's because Apple is stupid... Everyone sucks at this because email is just a total mess of a medium that defies strict categorization. And the moment that someone cracks the code, spammers will crack it right back and fake paypal invoices will suddenly be marked important in my Primary category.
Outlook for Mac is a native app.
As of yet that’s not the case on macOS with Outlook though. But it wouldn’t surprise me if it went the same way as on Windows.I think Microsoft are moving towards webapps for their desktop clients. Certainly the new Outlook for Windows has not been well received.
I believe ShivneelSingh is referring to Apple designed & maintained apps which are native to the OS.Outlook for Mac is a native app.
Build-in ≠ native. A third party app can be native all the same. It’s just not build-in. Outlook for Mac has been specifically developed for macOS as such it can be considered a native application. Same goes for the iOS app.I believe ShivneelSingh is referring to Apple designed & maintained apps which are native to the OS.
Outlook for Mac, iPhone, and iPad is NOT a native app. It is a 3rd party app
Apple is doing this better than anyone. The occasional email goes in the wrong category, but it's indistinguishable from perfect pretty much. I think it works best with Apple Intelligence capable devices. So if your iPhone isn't AI-ready, upgrade for the best possible experience.
the new outlook for Windows is absolute garbageI think Microsoft are moving towards webapps for their desktop clients. Certainly the new Outlook for Windows has not been well received.
I think we are conveying the same idea using different terms. All good🤜🤛Build-in ≠ native. A third party app can be native all the same. It’s just not build-in. Outlook for Mac has been specifically developed for macOS as such it can be considered a native application. Same goes for the iOS app.
you have to train it.This all seems like a good idea in theory, but in reality it just turns one inbox into four that must be checked anytime you're expecting an email... because the thing just isn't very good at categorizing stuff based on the context.
As of yet that’s not the case on macOS with Outlook though. But it wouldn’t surprise me if it went the same way as on Windows.
I think the categories generally makes sense. For concert tickets the system might err on the side of caution and put it in updates because a ticket or concert date might be included in the receipt. Personally I’ve had 4-5 senders that were also miscategorized, but Once I manually categorized those everything seems to have consistently worked so far. I still swipe over to all mail once in a while but so far I haven’t had much issues.I'm completely open to the possibility that I'm using it wrong somehow, but it feels like it categorizes half my emails at random. I have no confidence that emails from my doctor won't end up in "Promotions." Concert tickets end up in "Updates" rather than "Transactions." And I don't think it's because Apple is stupid... Everyone sucks at this because email is just a total mess of a medium that defies strict categorization. And the moment that someone cracks the code, spammers will crack it right back and fake paypal invoices will suddenly be marked important in my Primary category.
you have to train itYeah, I turned it off quickly when I found some important emails were misclassified. I know you can manually recategorize messages based on the sender, but I haven't tried that yet to see if it improves things.
Strange request? Why?
Use Outlook on Mac, looks rather similar to Outlook on Windows
At least give it a try. Outlook for Mac integrates great with macOS (i.e. you can use focus filters, just like Mail).I like to use native apps as much as possible. They integrate easier with iCloud, iOS, and iPad.
From the item:okay but how do you turn it off now?
Categories is the default view after updating to the new software, but in the upper right corner of the Mail app, you can swap back to a list view that shows all emails in chronological order, without separation into categories.
And yet there is still no setting to keep emails from automatically being marked as read when you have the preview pane opened.
Couldn't agree more. I hate NEW outlook almost as much as I hate NEW teams!!!!the new outlook for Windows is absolute garbage
I use Gmail and its categorization is absolutely on point. I only check the primary and the updates tabs. I never have to check any emails on the social or promotions tab. If Apple can be nearly that good, it's a huge win.This all seems like a good idea in theory, but in reality it just turns one inbox into four that must be checked anytime you're expecting an email... because the thing just isn't very good at categorizing stuff based on the context.
I got the impression that this feature was all done server side.Apple is doing this better than anyone. The occasional email goes in the wrong category, but it's indistinguishable from perfect pretty much. I think it works best with Apple Intelligence capable devices. So if your iPhone isn't AI-ready, upgrade for the best possible experience.