I use Gmail for work, and I find it's pretty much just as unreliable. You only have to miss one important email to completely lose confidence.
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Revamped Mail App With Built-In Categorization Comes to Mac and iPad
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I only want the Mail program to catch and delete (not put into a junk/spam folder) SPAM MAIL. Surely Apple Intelligence can handle that.
This new Mail app is almost as bad as the Apple Maps initial release. I use my phone for work, and this update almost gave me a heart attack because I thought it deleted my emails. It scattered my work emails across all the categories, making it frustrating to find anything. Apple really needs to make people opt-in to drastic changes like this. On the bright side, at least it is fairly easy to turn this feature off.
And you would think that Apple would fix annoying bugs before introducing new ones like this feature. I still get the dreaded "This message has not been downloaded from the server" issue at least once a week.
I think I need to look at using the Outlook app again, although I think the Apple Mail search is better than Outlook's.
And you would think that Apple would fix annoying bugs before introducing new ones like this feature. I still get the dreaded "This message has not been downloaded from the server" issue at least once a week.
I think I need to look at using the Outlook app again, although I think the Apple Mail search is better than Outlook's.
I see no such option in the macOS 15.4 version of Sequoia. Where the devil is it?
The initial iPadOS 18.4 and macOS Sequoia 15.4 betas that Apple provided to developers today expand the revamped Mail app to the iPad and the Mac.
in the upper right corner of the Mail app, you can swap back to a list view that shows all emails in chronological order, without separation into categories.
You can. Mail preferences turn off contact icons.
And, another day closer to switching to Thunderbird. I guess that's inevitable given that I've always used Firefox instead of Safari.
I loathe the new inbox. The reason I've always stuck with Apple Mail was the simplicity, and this isn't simple. I don't even fully understand what it thinks it's doing.
Want to make Mail better? Let me assign Finder tags to my mail messages so I can organize my email and files with one metadata system.
Want to make Mail better? Let me assign Finder tags to my mail messages so I can organize my email and files with one metadata system.
The problem with the Outlook app is that it transfers your email account credentials to Microsoft. The emails are retrieved to and by Microsoft’s cloud (regardless of which email provider you use) and accessed from there by the app. In other words, Microsoft mirrors and gets full access to your emails and email account, in addition to your regular email provider.
Apple Mail is bad, but the Outlook app isn’t a good alternative.
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I wish they would just fix mail syncing between devices, in particular syncing of read/unread status and app badges.
I don't have beta access — is it still the case that you ahve to turn off this setting individually in each inbox? And now on each device - the settings do not sync?
Obnoxious that this turned on without consent. Took me a bit to figure out why some emails were missing. New settings should be opt-in and/or have a new feature configuration pop up.
Thanks, but no, I know you can turn off “contact photos” for the list of emails, I mean once you’ve opened the actual email, in the to/from header, I don’t think there’s a way to turn those off, is there?
That bug has existed since 10.4 Tiger at least and has never been fixed.
Outlook on the Mac looks a bit weird, but it works and integrates very well across Mac/iOS/WatchOS.
Do not forget that the US Dept of Homeland Security, et al. has for years labeled Microsoft Outlook (and others), a threat to National Security. The threat has not diminished with the passage of time. Given current events lately, I see no reason for optimism.
I used Emacs in the 90s. Before that, VMS. I hope to live long enough for my brain to recover.
I used Emacs in the 90s. Before that, VMS. I hope to live long enough for my brain to recover.
False positives will always be a problem. I certainly don’t want miscategorized emails to be deleted.
Is this the new "it's indexing " excuse? Need to wait for it to "just work" Siri now needs time to learn? 🤣
That literally only applies to the iOS app.
So how DO you turn off categorisation? I hated it on my phone and turned it off, hate it here too. I just don't get enough email that this is useful
The item clearly says this is in the beta version of MacOS 15.4 that went out to developers today. So unless you are beta testing 15.4, you don't have it. But you can wait for 15.4 to be released, install it and then turn it off, so you won't have it then either.
So glad this is coming to the Mac. I use Gmail’s version of doing this, but always wished there were an Apple native app that can do it too.
It’s not an excuse. As you recategorize things it will learn how you want them categorized
Of course it needs to learn. That’s how machine learning works
Maybe for you. I just reverted back to 14. I never should have updated to Sequoia. Someone else can bleed over the AI as Apple excretes the foul mess a lump at a time.
iPadOS 18.3 seems to be stable now. The initial release was a hot mess. My iPad is too old for Augmented Idiocy so it's safe.