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Hey all.

I don't use the the categories on my iPhone and iPad so I won't be on my Mac. I can see for some it would be useful, I am just happy seeing my emails in order in one view as I don't have enough varied email types to warrant filtering.

I was hoping though that when the Mail app was updated for Mac, that one issue I have been having may have been inadvertently fixed. I have an Outlook.com, email address, so since Microsoft made it so that third party email clients cannot use just a email address and password, I have had to set up my email through the 'Exchange' option in the Mail app. Using this method though, the majority of my email arrives without a notification sound at all. I get the badge on the icon in the dock but no sound.

It is just annoying more than anything. It happens to most email, but the odd one will arrive with sound sometimes. Anyone else experience this?

Anyhow, I am going off-piste to what this discussion is about and I was just ranting as I thought this 'rebuild' would be more ground up and fix the issue. I have thought about using another client on my mac but as I prefer the Apple Mail apps on my iPhone and iPad, I would lose the Handoff function.
 
I am going to cop some heat for this but I keep coming back to mail on my macs. Ive tried spark, thunderbird, airmail, built in client in Vivaldi and many others overs the years, and I keep coming back to mail - for my use cases it seems to give all I need most of the time. So I guess I am one of very few here that kinda like mail.
At work I use outlook under 365 acct (I know can use other tools but they dont play as nice with 365) on a mac and I actually hate it - dont like the UI, dont like the search feature and generally find it frustrating. I receive tens to hundreds of work emails a day and filter off into various shared directories and folders etc as I job share with another co-worker. Tried doing some see you soon level 365 changes on our account and 365 insists on certain things that, in our, use case meant had to post process emails sent to various addresses we use.
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I turned off this "feature" within minutes of performing the update.

Mail has been giving me lots of trouble since the update. Emails arrive on my computer hours before they do on my iPhone, even when I try to fetch them on the phone.
 
I was flying last week in the airline was sending me notifications about changes to MiFlight and delays, etc.. anyways I wasn’t getting any of the emails because Apple decided that the Airlines emails were promotions, there’s nothing like taking an Uber to the airport only to find your flight is canceled WTF Apple!!!
 
I’m I the only one that the mail app stutters on my iPhone 15 pro when you click on an email from the Notification Centre it takes you to the app instead of the email. Like it does on iPad at the moment and then it takes at least a few seconds before you can actually look at it 🤔.
 
This all seems like a good idea in theory, but in reality it just turns one inbox into four that must be checked anytime you're expecting an email... because the thing just isn't very good at categorizing stuff based on the context.
If it works like the phone, you can still use the All as a single inbox. You can also recategorize senders so they are organized the way you want.
 
I have pretty much stopped using mail on my iphone because of this mess. I simply will not click through multiple "tabs" to check my email when I used to see everything in a single place before.
 
I have pretty much stopped using mail on my iphone because of this mess. I simply will not click through multiple "tabs" to check my email when I used to see everything in a single place before.
You still can.
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The initial iPadOS 18.4 and macOS Sequoia 15.4 betas that Apple provided to developers today expand the revamped Mail app to the iPad and the Mac.

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The new Mail app features built-in categorization that organizes incoming emails into different sections. Important emails are displayed in the Primary category, with other emails organized into sections highlighting product orders, newsletters, deals, and social notifications.

A "Transactions" section aggregates receipts, orders, and deliveries to make it easy to find orders that you've placed and shipping information for those orders.

In an "Updates" section, you'll find newsletters, alerts for doctor's appointments and correspondence, and subscription emails. A "Promotions" category includes emails with offers and deals.

Categories is the default view after updating to the new software, but in the upper right corner of the Mail app, you can swap back to a list view that shows all emails in chronological order, without separation into categories. Devices that have Apple Intelligence support will show priority emails in the Primary inbox, so you can see what's most important first. Emails in the Transactions, Updates, or Promotions section that have time-sensitive information will also be shown in the Primary section.

Apple already brought Mail categorization to the iPhone with the iOS 18.2 update, but now it has expanded to the Mac and iPad as well.

Article Link: Revamped Mail App With Built-In Categorization Comes to Mac and iPad

This is typical for programmers (they have no idea of the ordinary work on computers)

Better they would repair the faults that have gathered over the years

E.g.
- printing a blank page at the end of a document
- losing passwords (eg in smtp part) of an account
- When you open an email in the Incoming folder - nevertheless the email is indicated as not read in the incoming folder of the particular account (and you must click there and open for status "read")
- (rarely) printing without the header or the header on the first page the rest starting on the second page
- (rarely) printing just the header without the text in the email

Thanks :):apple:
 
does not show me all of my mail, I can go through these on my phone then open my MAC and have a handful that are not showing up on my phone. Perhaps there is a bug of some sort.
Have you tried this setting? It should turn all of the AI stuff off and make it work like it used to.

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How the heck do you turn it of for MacOS? The 4 categories don't include ALL, which is stupid frustrating.
Hey there

The ‘All Mail’ tab only appears when you click again on the category tab you are already on.

But to turn them off completely which is the default for me as I don’t like my email categorised, select ‘View’ in the menu bar and then uncheck the ‘Show Mail Categories’ option (I think that’s the right wording, I’m not looking at my Mac right now).

Hope that helps. :)
 
The item clearly says this is in the beta version of MacOS 15.4 that went out to developers today. So unless you are beta testing 15.4, you don't have it.
I literally do. Which is why I posted my question. Why would I ask to turn off a feature that I didn't have?

Anyway, View -> Show Mail Categories was what I was looking for.
 
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