Very likely that they accidentally flipped the results when putting them in the graph. The 550 shows a gain in every other benchmark.
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I'm just glad I will have the holiday return period (almost 2 months) to do my own back to back evaluation before deciding if I return it. I currently use the original 15" 2012 rMBP maxed out. My new one is maxed also except for a 1TB and not 2TB SSD.
I'm looking for increased CPU performance in 1:1 preview generation in LR. I'm looking for much better battery life while using LR...not when just watching a video or browsing the web. I'm looking for smaller and lighter. I need time to evaluate the keyboard
All these reviews are fairly useless except the ArsTechnica one as usual. Just glad I can have some time (better than just 15 days) to make up my own mind in my own use case.
I'm looking for increased CPU performance in 1:1 preview generation in LR. I'm looking for much better battery life while using LR...not when just watching a video or browsing the web. I'm looking for smaller and lighter. I need time to evaluate the keyboard
All these reviews are fairly useless except the ArsTechnica one as usual. Just glad I can have some time (better than just 15 days) to make up my own mind in my own use case.
I just went back to their standalone review of the 13" w/o TB and it still shows the 35.75 FPS score. I know Cinebench isn't the best metric for integrated intel graphics, but still seems odd.
As you said, shows performance gains everywhere else. Hopefully just an outlier. Debating my choice of the base 13" w/ TB now though...
The 550 isn't supposed to perform noticeably better in most use cases anyway.
It's running the same execution units and the same eDRAM cache as the 540 in a higher thermal envelope, that's it.
If you aren't pushing CPU and GPU to maximum for a longer time, there won't be a real difference.
As far as I'm concerned, the 13" with TB is a weird in-between product and the worst of all 3 models.
13" with TB vs 13"
- same weight and size
- slightly better performance
- worst battery life of all 3 new models, even compared to the 15" which used to lack behind in this regard
- running hotter
- 300€ more expensive
- TB won't be useful for most people, as a developer I personally prefer function keys anyway
- Touch ID and 2 more Thunderbolt 3 ports are nice, but not worth the other downtrades IMO
It's running the same execution units and the same eDRAM cache as the 540 in a higher thermal envelope, that's it.
If you aren't pushing CPU and GPU to maximum for a longer time, there won't be a real difference.
As far as I'm concerned, the 13" with TB is a weird in-between product and the worst of all 3 models.
13" with TB vs 13"
- same weight and size
- slightly better performance
- worst battery life of all 3 new models, even compared to the 15" which used to lack behind in this regard
- running hotter
- 300€ more expensive
- TB won't be useful for most people, as a developer I personally prefer function keys anyway
- Touch ID and 2 more Thunderbolt 3 ports are nice, but not worth the other downtrades IMO
I'm not 100% convinced about these benchmarks. The (very good) review by Arstechnica, tried to point out how similar the 2.0GHZ is to the 2.9GHZ, due to the boost speed. But I wonder if benchmarks and the testing enviroment in general, are adequate in determining some of the differences. That's not how these are used day to day. No test can duplicate that (by definition of test).
This is not a new topic. It's been going on for ever, yet this reviewer sounds like it's new to him.
Don't know
This is not a new topic. It's been going on for ever, yet this reviewer sounds like it's new to him.
Don't know
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I'm not saying it isn't possible a mistake was made, but this chart is very clear. The 540 outscored the 550 on this test.
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I would disagree with most of this, but it's very clearly an opinion which you're more than entitled to.
From a pure features and capability standpoint though, the TB model is objectively better in all performance measures except for battery life.
It's faster in all aspects, including CPU, GPU and wifi.
It incorporates a touch bar and Touch ID, which, regardless of personal preference, is at worst equal to the lower end model, and at best a nice jump forwards.
More Tb3 ports and better internal cooling design.
As for whether this is worth the money, that's entirely up to personal preference and usage.
But I would definitely say this model is still smack dead in the middle of the lineup, like it always has been, between the new "Air" on the lower end and the 15" on the higher end.
For me, the 13" w/TB ticks more boxes than either of the other models. The only thing I really don't like is the price when compared to previous years' models. But that could be said for all 3 models from my perspective
Horrible video. It's like a monkey filmed and edited it
I currently have the no TB version and the battery life is great. I am getting 11 hours. I also have a TB version on order and, along with battery life concerns, the TB dimming is a huge deal to me. How is that productive at all? I will have to touch the TB to see what is being displayed?
that doesnt mean Apple was lying when they said you have 10h of battery surfing the web. If the non touch get more, thats even better, but i dont think the touchbar models are bellow 10h
From What I understand when the touchbar is on you can press and hold on the brightness or volume buttons and it becomes a slider (although strangely you end up sliding on part of the touchbar next to the actual image of the slider) so you don't have to tap the brightness then tap again to change, you can tap and hold and slide in one movement.
I agree it's annoying that when the touchbar is off you have to press something just to get the option of selecting an option.
There is a YouTube video somewhere that shows better what I mean, but I've watched so many today I can't remember which exactly.
and I guess you could technically just move the mouse and then it would light up the touchbar.
To people who have the new 13 and 15 MPB with TouchBar and want to get an accurate figure for battery life, I highly recommend this app, Battery Logger:
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/battery-logger/id473673114?mt=12
Battery Logger will give you a precise figure of your battery life instead of estimating. I've been using it for quite some time now.
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/battery-logger/id473673114?mt=12
Battery Logger will give you a precise figure of your battery life instead of estimating. I've been using it for quite some time now.
NOT true. Press and hold the volume/brightness key and adjust it
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Not true. On non TB you can get around 11-12.5hours based on your brightness and the tb you can have around 9.5 to around 11.10 min
where are you seeing that claim? All of the reviews, which have had it for a week are not getting that at all. The few who have actually used the device instead of just doing video streams are getting even less.