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NOT true. Press and hold the volume/brightness key and adjust it
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Not true. On non TB you can get around 11-12.5hours based on your brightness and the tb you can have around 9.5 to around 11.10 min

so all the reviewers are wrong so far ? where did you pull those numbers from ?
 
What about when it's plugged in?

They must have an option for this. Doesn't make sense. Unless they are embarrassed and want to hide whenever they can.
 
I wonder if it has something to do with preventing burn in issues.
Yes, that's still a thing with OLED. Less so in smartphones because they usually aren't lighting the same pixels for hours without turning off, but the Touch Bar might be prone to this.
 
I wonder if it has something to do with preventing burn in issues.
Yes, that's still a thing with OLED. Less so in smartphones because they usually aren't lighting the same pixels for hours without turning off, but the Touch Bar might be prone to this.

This can't be correct.
 
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Have yet to see a good, evidence-based treatment (i.e. benchmarks) of the subject of the iGPU vs. dGPU in everyday tasks (UI FPS, heat generated, battery life, etc.). I have a sneaking suspicion that 1. the iGPU performance is a regression from the previous model's iGPU, and 2. switching to the dGPU to make up for that regression will half battery life. Guess I will continue to have to wait for Anandtech's infamous super-slow-to-publish-yet-generally-worth-the-wait review and hope it dashes my silly suspicions. :)
 
I wonder if it has something to do with preventing burn in issues.
Yes, that's still a thing with OLED. Less so in smartphones because they usually aren't lighting the same pixels for hours without turning off, but the Touch Bar might be prone to this.

That is a very good point. I also wonder if this is a reason to not "lock" the function keys.
 
That is a very good point. I also wonder if this is a reason to not "lock" the function keys.

What?

I don't want something turning on and off like that. That would be very annoying. Burn-in, in this day and age?

I doubt it, then again, who knows. But if this is the case I can't use it.
 
What?

I don't want something turning on and off like that. That would be very annoying. Burn-in, in this day and age?

I doubt it, then again, who knows. But if this is the case I can't use it.

Like the posted above said, OLED burn-in is a very real thing. Samsung phones sometimes get it, and I have seen it on several OLED TVs.

considering it is a black background, you would probably never see it if burn in occurred.
 
Like the posted above said, OLED burn-in is a very real thing. Samsung phones sometimes get it, and I have seen it on several OLED TVs.

considering it is a black background, you would probably never see it if burn in occurred.

Great. I just canceled my Best Buy order. I can't go there until this is sorted out. Should have stuck with the non-touch bar one I had.
 
Great. I just canceled my Best Buy order. I can't go there until this is sorted out. Should have stuck with the non-touch bar one I had.

I'm debating cancelling it just based on the early battery life reviews. The verge got 5.5 hours with two different 13" pros with touchbar.

It makes sense reviews doing loops are getting better battery b.c the touchbar turns off after 60 seconds if you are not using the laptop actively.
 
I'm debating cancelling it just based on the early battery life reviews. The verge got 5.5 hours with two different 13" pros with touchbar.

It makes sense reviews doing loops are getting better battery b.c the touchbar turns off after 60 seconds if you are not using the laptop actively.

Yes but don't you think that would be annoying? My God what are they thinking? If it's always on, that's totally cool. But now there is some question.
 
I'm debating cancelling it just based on the early battery life reviews. The verge got 5.5 hours with two different 13" pros with touchbar.

It makes sense reviews doing loops are getting better battery b.c the touchbar turns off after 60 seconds if you are not using the laptop actively.

I believe it dims at 60 seconds and off after another 15, but any action brings it back (touchpad, typing, etc)

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I believe it dims at 60 seconds and off after another 15, but any action brings it back (touchpad, typing, etc)

-d

which would explain battery looking good when running a test vs. actually using the device.
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Yes but don't you think that would be annoying? My God what are they thinking? If it's always on, that's totally cool. But now there is some question.

well if you are using the laptop it is basically always on. The only time it dims/goes off is when you are not actually using it. Video playback is the only time where is would realistically turn off, and even so you can just move the pointer to get it back.
 
which would explain battery looking good when running a test vs. actually using the device.
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well if you are using the laptop it is basically always on. The only time it dims/goes off is when you are not actually using it. Video playback is the only time where is would realistically turn off, and even so you can just move the pointer to get it back.

Not true for me. I use audio apps that need at least volume, and i'm not touching the laptop. So, it's turning on off off with my particular usage . Others may be fine, but I need more time to look at this.

I'm just glad I caught the cancel window.
 
I'm debating cancelling it just based on the early battery life reviews. The verge got 5.5 hours with two different 13" pros with touchbar.

It makes sense reviews doing loops are getting better battery b.c the touchbar turns off after 60 seconds if you are not using the laptop actively.


This reviewer seems to have got between 9 and 11 hours of battery life.

 
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This reviewer seems to have got between 9 and 11 hours of battery life.


incredible how different people are getting. I guess it makes sense, some people have been getting really bad battery life with the no TB version.
 
incredible how different people are getting. I guess it makes sense, some people have been getting really bad battery life with the no TB version.


It's going to depend on what you run on it and how you have it configured. Apple said 8-10 hours battery life I think and they are usually pretty realistic and accurate with those statements. If it has 5-6 hours people will be returning these in droves.
 
yes 9 hours you get outside when the brightness is much higher and 10-11 when indoors
 
It's going to depend on what you run on it and how you have it configured. Apple said 8-10 hours battery life I think and they are usually pretty realistic and accurate with those statements. If it has 5-6 hours people will be returning these in droves.

The verge review who got 5-6 said he was doing extremely light task. Watching youtube here and there and surfing the web.

"Battery life averaged around five and a half hours while I used the 13-inch unit to do my work, which consists of keeping open Slack, Safari, Mail, TweetBot, and TextEdit, watching the occasional YouTube video, and opening various Apple apps here and there for testing."

"Apple was so sure that my five-or-so-hour battery life was wrong that it sent me a second 13-inch MacBook Pro unit to test out. But I got very similar numbers on it — closer to six hours on average — and that was while using fewer apps."
 
Read most reviews, makes me wonder how crazy I am to put 3k€ on a 13TB 16/1tb :/
 
The verge review who got 5-6 said he was doing extremely light task. Watching youtube here and there and surfing the web.

"Battery life averaged around five and a half hours while I used the 13-inch unit to do my work, which consists of keeping open Slack, Safari, Mail, TweetBot, and TextEdit, watching the occasional YouTube video, and opening various Apple apps here and there for testing."

"Apple was so sure that my five-or-so-hour battery life was wrong that it sent me a second 13-inch MacBook Pro unit to test out. But I got very similar numbers on it — closer to six hours on average — and that was while using fewer apps."

He said average, which means he got mixed results. I am not sure on the programs he named and what resources those use. Any video is going to chew up battery, even YT. I suppose it will be a matter of using it to see, and I am getting the 15 so hopefully it will yield better than 5-6 hours. Personally the verge review was weak for me, I didn't put much stock in what he had to say. Walking around Manhatten looking all cool with a Mac seemed to be more what he was shooting for. :)

Anything is better than what I use now on my 11 year old white MB which is about 1.5 hours! Although I am typing this on a Lenovo Yoga 900 and this thing goes all day on internet and youtube. A solid 8 hours, and it's a windows machine. I am thinking the MB will beat this little machine in every way.
 
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It turns out, however, that the bigger issue with these machines isn’t the performance, but the battery life. Apple promises 10 hours, but our tests fell far short of that.

Battery life averaged around five and a half hours while I used the 13-inch unit to do my work, which consists of keeping open Slack, Safari, Mail, TweetBot, and TextEdit, watching the occasional YouTube video, and opening various Apple apps here and there for testing.
 
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