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I am just waiting for them to declare martial law because at this point that may be the only thing to restore order.

Don't be daft.

There are easily enough riot police in London to deal with this. Their tactics seem to have been very restrained up to now. There's a vast chasm between some idiots torching cars and martial law.

You've been watching too many movies.
 
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It hasn't rained properly here for days.
When the clouds open, that will put off the kids burning things.
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Jawoll, mein Führer! ;-)

This sounds a little too hard, don't you think? Violence and crime in the streets is horrible, but so is your "solution". And while the methods of these people are terrible, their frustration of a rising police state mentality in the EU, a terribly inflating euro, no jobs and politicians of all colour selling their voters to the banking cartels is understandable. The only solution thoug, can of course be peaceful protest.

Lol, nein!

I know it is extreme and the protest started peacefully, but if they go at police with violence trying to take them down, would you do nothing? If a group of those guys circled you and beat you down and tried to kill you, would you not try to escape?

I know it is extreme my "solution", but most of these kids are just in for the kicks, and looting and hurting others are an excuse for their behavior? This is what happens when parents don't care about their children and/or are in jail...
 
Why are you under the impression i am in any way sympathetic towards the rioters, i'm not, they are criminals pure and simple.
I spent 21 years living in Tottenham i still have family there now relatively close to the riot on Saturday, i feel shocked seeing it in flames and those responsible should be held accountable.

I quoted you in the earlier post because i found your comment racist, and before you ask i am white.

May be racist, but I'm not. Some of my ideas may be extreme, but only when truly necessary. Fortunately I do not wish to enter politics :D
 
"The Youth of the Middle East rise up for basic freedoms.The Youth of London rise up for a HD ready 42" Plasma TV"
 
I am just waiting for them to declare martial law because at this point that may be the only thing to restore order.

Are you ****ing kidding me? Talk about an over reaction.

EDIT: I see firestarter beat me to it.
 
From a friend,
"The most poverty stricken areas in the UK, the ones most adversely affected by loss of EMA, by unemployment etc... are not on fire tonight."

Nothing to say but to call them morons.
 
they should stage a few charity Football matches and get these thugs out of the streets and focus their minds elsewhere.
 
A riot is the language of the unheard.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

Really? Really??
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"Many lives have been saved this day." ;)

Absolutely. I think we've just passed an 'invasion of Poland' moment.

Very clever, but Martial Law has already been poo-pooed here.
 
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According to twitter reports - the Turkish shop-owning community up in Dalston Kingsland seem to be laying down some of their own justice.

@PaulLewis (Guardian journalist) said:
Kingsland Road chaotic as Turkish men attack other, predominantly black, youths with sticks, metal barricades and bricks. #hackney

@PaulLewis said:
Turkish man: "We're protecting our homes. This is war." #hackney

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The lessons of the US ratings-cut are sufficient to ensure there's no let up in these.

Actually, S&P has stated it has no preference on the balance of cuts to tax increases. In fact, the main reason they lowered America's rating was because they had little confidence that the U.S. would ever be able to come to some sort of compromise to lower the deficit.

If anything, S&P supports increasing the balance in favor of more taxes, as indicated by this sentence in the report outlining their reasoning for the downgrade, "On the other hand, as our upside scenario highlights, if the recommendations of the Congressional Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction--independently or coupled with other initiatives, such as the lapsing of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts for high earners--lead to fiscal consolidation measures beyond the minimum mandated, and we believe they are likely to slow the deterioration of the government's debt dynamics, the long-term rating could stabilize at 'AA+'.

You can read the reasoning for the downgrade from S&P itself right here: http://tinyurl.com/44xrv4f (It's a pdf, and you only need to read the first two pages

So, in the U.K, the extent of the cuts could be decreased and replaced by higher taxes. In particular, I favor an increased corporation tax as corporate profits have surged over the past two years, but hiring has not. This of course indicates that we could more heavily tax companies with very little effect on hiring.

In regards to the rioting in London, this is just more evidence that eugenics policies are direly needed. :D

(Sorry for going a bit off-topic there, but I wasn't going to let that go unchallenged. :) )
 
Well they're probably a mixture of shopkeepers and others. It's a big community, not all of which work in shops.

Are you actually making some sort of a point, or just wasting bandwidth?

Being so familiar with the area you'll know all about protection rackets and I've been reliably informed that is who is protecting the shops(ironic or what).This is not a slur on the Kurdish or Turkish communities by the way many of whom are out confronting the police. There are worrying reports of clashes between people trying to get at a Islamic bank and Islamic youth trying to protect it,no a good sign.If anybody wonders, I think this is being gone about in the wrong way,but let me be very clear I'm not joining the reactionaries by condemning those taking part.Also for those who think this is all being organised by anarchists:

Anarchists were present in Hackney stopping youths starting fires in local shops & putting them out #LondonRiots @donnachadelong @PaulLewis


(Bristol very tense at the moment)
 
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