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Rivian CEO Explains Why Apple CarPlay Won't Come to Its Vehicles
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This is definitely a TERRIBLE idea. This isn't GM, where at least with Android Automotive, you still have Google Maps and Waze for your navigation, and I believe Android Automotive still can access the music and podcasts on your iPhone through a third-party app.
After trying carplay in multiple vehicles recently as I've been shopping around I found I actually did prefer just using bluetooth or if the car had a decent integrated system just using that to stream to the car. Carplay wirelessly was worse than bluetooth by far and that seems to be where it's trending. That said if they are going to force apple to make changes to their walled garden they should probably expect the same of car makers
You must have gotten a bad implementation of it
When it is working properly it's fantastic and feels magical
You just get in and your phone can be anywhere (in a bag, in your pocket, etc), but your stuff is on screen
That could be. I tried 2 different vehicles with it tho. One was mini and the other was subaru. If two brand new current year cars from major brands arent going to do it well I dont know who will
I'll help here if you have to touch your mobile device to change a playlist/app then it's a non-starter for a moving vehicle.
I never understood the fad of chosing trucks. Maybe it is because I rarely have a need for a truck to waste the $80k on one.
The buyers are usually going to Home Depot on Saturdays and have visions of "off roading grandeur"
Only a big truck will suffice
/s
Many people on the road are still using their mobile devices while driving in rush hour traffic. I watched them doing this.
That problem certainly isn't helped if their phone isn't on the screen (as in a Rivian or Tesla)
Even more incentive to pick the phone up and interact with it endlessly
Probably the same reason people choose a max iPhone rather than saving the $100. They just like or prefer the form factor.
Same. Saw something the other day that said like 75% of truck drivers use their trucks as actual trucks (towing, hauling stuff) less than once a year. Wild people pay all that money for a truck (with **** gas mileage) and rarely/never actually use it as a truck.
Except they purchased those 4x4s and never take them off road. Most of the time they are driving around in traffic with the most inefficient vehicle for the one or two times a year were they would need it. Better to rent a truck than own one.
I'm appalled at how large and tall they've become
I'm average height ... and walked in front of a Toyota Tundra the other day and the hood was at my shoulders
These things are really dangerous to everyone and anyone around them
Honestly, I wish they would bring back the actual "small trucks." Loved the s10/Ford Ranger/Dodge Dakotas when I was younger that were a truck but not absolutely massive. Even the F150s before they became tanks. I guess they have the Ford Mavericks now (which are "smaller" but still not quite the size of those older small trucks).
I still have a 30 year old Dodge Ram (mostly stored, but I use it for seasonal projects as needed) and it was a "full size" ... and it's smaller than every single "full size" truck
Something like the Maverick is nearly as big
It's comical ... and sad ... and dangerous
Electric automaker Rivian has no plans to introduce support for Apple CarPlay in its vehicles, founder and CEO RJ Scaringe says.
The company's stance was explained in a recent interview with The Verge's Nilay Patel on the "Decoder" podcast. Scaringe emphasized that Rivian's desire to create a seamless and well-integrated digital experience is the primary reason for not adopting CarPlay. He likened the decision to Apple choosing to develop iOS and macOS instead of using Microsoft's Windows operating system, stating, "There is a reason that ironically is very consistent with Apple ethos for us to want to control the ecosystem."
Apple CarPlay was introduced in 2014 and allows iPhone users to mirror some of their phone's features on a car's infotainment system, providing access to Siri, navigation, and some apps in a familiar interface. It has become a popular feature in many vehicles, with a significant number of consumers considering it a critical factor in purchasing decisions.
Rivian's rejection of CarPlay stems from a desire to maintain control over the entire user experience within its vehicles. Scaringe highlighted that CarPlay's inability to "leverage other parts of the vehicle experience" would necessitate users to exit the app for certain functions, such as opening the front trunk. He explained, "We have taken the view of the digital experience in the vehicle wants to feel consistent and holistically harmonious across every touchpoint."
The decision to exclude CarPlay is seen as part of Rivian's broader strategy to control the "digital real estate" within its vehicles. Scaringe stated, "We just believe that it is such an important piece of real estate, the digital ecosystem, that it was something we want to retain."
He also acknowledged customer feedback regarding the current shortcomings in Rivian's mapping and navigation systems, an area where CarPlay excels. He noted that Rivian is actively working on improvements, facilitated by the company's acquisition of route planning app maker Iternio.
Despite not supporting CarPlay, Rivian plans to incorporate many of its desirable features on an "à la carte basis." The company has already integrated Apple Music with Spatial Audio support. Scaringe expressed his admiration for Apple's products and reiterated the strong relationship between the two companies. However, he emphasized the importance of consistency and control in delivering a "pure product experience" for Rivian customers.
The absence of CarPlay in Rivian's vehicles is not unique in the automotive industry. Tesla has never adopted the feature, and General Motors recently decided to drop support for CarPlay and Android Auto in its future electric vehicle models. In contrast, luxury brands like Porsche and Aston Martin are set to adopt the next-generation CarPlay experience.
Article Link: Rivian CEO Explains Why Apple CarPlay Won't Come to Its Vehicles
Hey.
Here's a crazy idea.
Don't require using a touchscreen to OPEN THE ***** TRUNK YOU ***** IDJIT!!!!!!!!!!! Make it an actual real life physical BUTTON!
SMFH.
He doesn't realize just how big a self-own this statement was, does he? The stupidity that you need to use a touchscreen to open the trunk doesn't strike him as unbelievably ***** stupid. He actually thinks that's normal or expected... or something...
I don't want to live on this planet anymore...
Sigh.
Was it mentioned what Rivian -is- using? Are they using an Android-based system? Android Automotive?
Nope sorry. For all those folks who ridicule the auto-response of "Doesn't support CarPlay so I won't buy it" you need to appreciate that owning an Automobile is NOT a subscription purchase. I bought it, I will use it in the manner in which I want to use it. I do not want to pay the auto manufacturer a monthly fee to access capabilities and functionality that I paid for with the original tens of thousands of dollars price tag. By the way, I feel exactly the same way about games that I play and apps that I use. Apple and frankly Android represent a far better UI than any auto manufacturer will ever produce and present competitive options. They don't replace the automobile or provide an alternative for getting from here to there... but they do represent a FAR better option for accessing my phone, music, navigation, and my calendar.
Electric automaker Rivian has no plans to introduce support for Apple CarPlay in its vehicles, founder and CEO RJ Scaringe says.
The company's stance was explained in a recent interview with The Verge's Nilay Patel on the "Decoder" podcast. Scaringe emphasized that Rivian's desire to create a seamless and well-integrated digital experience is the primary reason for not adopting CarPlay. He likened the decision to Apple choosing to develop iOS and macOS instead of using Microsoft's Windows operating system, stating, "There is a reason that ironically is very consistent with Apple ethos for us to want to control the ecosystem."
Apple CarPlay was introduced in 2014 and allows iPhone users to mirror some of their phone's features on a car's infotainment system, providing access to Siri, navigation, and some apps in a familiar interface. It has become a popular feature in many vehicles, with a significant number of consumers considering it a critical factor in purchasing decisions.
Rivian's rejection of CarPlay stems from a desire to maintain control over the entire user experience within its vehicles. Scaringe highlighted that CarPlay's inability to "leverage other parts of the vehicle experience" would necessitate users to exit the app for certain functions, such as opening the front trunk. He explained, "We have taken the view of the digital experience in the vehicle wants to feel consistent and holistically harmonious across every touchpoint."
The decision to exclude CarPlay is seen as part of Rivian's broader strategy to control the "digital real estate" within its vehicles. Scaringe stated, "We just believe that it is such an important piece of real estate, the digital ecosystem, that it was something we want to retain."
He also acknowledged customer feedback regarding the current shortcomings in Rivian's mapping and navigation systems, an area where CarPlay excels. He noted that Rivian is actively working on improvements, facilitated by the company's acquisition of route planning app maker Iternio.
Despite not supporting CarPlay, Rivian plans to incorporate many of its desirable features on an "à la carte basis." The company has already integrated Apple Music with Spatial Audio support. Scaringe expressed his admiration for Apple's products and reiterated the strong relationship between the two companies. However, he emphasized the importance of consistency and control in delivering a "pure product experience" for Rivian customers.
The absence of CarPlay in Rivian's vehicles is not unique in the automotive industry. Tesla has never adopted the feature, and General Motors recently decided to drop support for CarPlay and Android Auto in its future electric vehicle models. In contrast, luxury brands like Porsche and Aston Martin are set to adopt the next-generation CarPlay experience.
Article Link: Rivian CEO Explains Why Apple CarPlay Won't Come to Its Vehicles
For vendors who charge increasingly well over $50,000 for a new car, you'd think they'd have learned to stay in their lane already?
Big, fat, tall and fugly.. fugly, cookie-cutter cross-over/SUVs/Trucks... would rather light myself on fire and roll around on the biggest fire ant mound in my state than buy any of them.
Just sell me a small/light-weight, fun to drive, hydrogen ICE car w/ a manual trans, and CarPlay support TYVM.
By setting up your phone via blue tooth connection like any other car.
Including Apple CarPlay isn't difficult. It's literally a second display through wifi. It's ridiculous to not give the consumer the option.