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Rogers to Introduce Cheaper Data Plans in Canada?
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I think I'm going to pick up a pay as you go iPhone when I'm in the UK next. When an unlocking solution is available I'll unlock it and bring it over to Canada and add a standard data plan to my existing voice plan with Rogers.
As rogers will be introducing better data plans, I won't have to be locked into a 3 year contract to acquire and use the device.
As rogers will be introducing better data plans, I won't have to be locked into a 3 year contract to acquire and use the device.
To be fair about the three year contract deal. I have been with both Rogers (and now Telus) and have found that upgrading to a new mobile phone midstream in the contract is usually allowed once every 12 months, as long as you're willing to extend the contract from that point onward.
So it's more of a carrier lock-in than a handset lock-in.
I think early contract termination fees should be more reasonable however. I think Rogers is currently $25/month to the end of the contract.
Telus is a little cheaper... $20/month...
Still pretty crappy.
So it's more of a carrier lock-in than a handset lock-in.
I think early contract termination fees should be more reasonable however. I think Rogers is currently $25/month to the end of the contract.
Telus is a little cheaper... $20/month...
Still pretty crappy.
what you have said is correct.
now i upgraded in february (through retentions making exceptions - shouldnt have been due till around october).
anyways for those not eligible yet there has to be a way around it and maybe rogers will give answers soon. i don't know if i should give up my BB for it (went from a pearl to a iPhone back to curve). with the situation complicated and not being eligible yet i might not be able to get one on launch day
such is life hehe...here's to waiting a little longer for further details.Dude, you CAN'T walk away with it without a 3-year 100/mo plan. It's not as simple as unlocking, assuming they come up with a method (perhaps sometime in Oct).
I was able to get a promo voice plan in the fall for $10/month that included 250 minutes, unlim nights and weekends and unlimited network calling (rog, fido, etc). My bill only runs up to $46/month or so, and that includes alot of nice options on top. If they tell me I have to change my voice plan, I'm heading straight to retentions on the 11th before anything... thats if I'm "eligible" for an iPhone since my broken phone is less than a year old. How should I have known the iPhone would finally be in Canada 11 months later?
Thanks for the clarification! Now I understand better.
So I upgraded my phone over a year ago, and I believe when I upgraded it I signed a 3 year contract to lower the price. It wasn't even an amazing phone. lol I know. But whatever, it's not like I'll ever leave Rogers. Well maybe....
But anyhow, since that was over a year ago (November was the mark I think) do you think I'd be eligible for the iPhone at the $199/299 price?
And wow! How did you get such an awesome plan?? I'm paying around $70 a month for a $35 plan. 200 minutes, plus $11 "communicate package", plus $10 unlimited incoming calls option (which actually saves me a lot of money).
If I could somehow get your plan, I'd only be paying around $10 more than you because of the unlimited incoming calls thing.
There's got to be a way I can get them to lower their crazy prices... of course if and when I get an iPhone, I'll have to take the plan's prices should I consider it worth the price at all. But for now, maybe I can get something cheaper lol
Actually I'm not 100% clear what you mean by "If they tell me I have to change my voice plan, I'm heading straight to retentions on the 11th before anything." What exactly are retentions?
I pay approximately the same but I have a few more features (I've been a customer for 15+ years). You're usually 'eligible' for a new phone after 12 months. I usually get them for free if not really cheap. ie. I got a Palm Treo for under $100 last year. I don't think they will give me a break on an iPhone. I'm also fearing that I'll have to give up my voice plan.
For all those who don't like contracts; I don't like Rogers either, but where are you gonna go? I travel a lot so I can't have anything but a GSM phone and it's too much of a hassle to use more than one handset.
This is a bit much isn't it? (and by that I mean your comments not the price).
He/she already said that they need some things that leaves out the possibility of using the cheapest crap/budget contracts and your $20 Fido one is exactly that. Then you give us a story about how the rest of your family pays ten bucks each (not sure if I even believe that), on an *unadvertised* deal.
That's all fine for you if we believe you (I kinda don't sorry), but even so, to then turn around and say the person "isn't trying hard enough" is pretty damn rude IMO. I'm betting that you probably micro-manage the toilet paper supply at your house also.
I don't understand why people bitch about contracts. Are you seriously going to leave Rogers for Telus? Or Telus for Bell?
If Telus launches a plan, simply call Rogers, tell them the offer and you'll get it matched. It's really that simple, and best of all on Rogers, you can use one of thousands of phones out there due to it's GSM compatibility. Whereas with Telus/Bell you're stuck with crappy phones or waiting for companies to release CDMA based phones.
You can even drop your Rogers phoneline down to a forwarding line for a few bucks while keeping your contract active. Renewing means nothing to me, as I have no plans to switch my # or leave Rogers, as all providers are the same (service wise, etc)
If Telus launches a plan, simply call Rogers, tell them the offer and you'll get it matched. It's really that simple, and best of all on Rogers, you can use one of thousands of phones out there due to it's GSM compatibility. Whereas with Telus/Bell you're stuck with crappy phones or waiting for companies to release CDMA based phones.
You can even drop your Rogers phoneline down to a forwarding line for a few bucks while keeping your contract active. Renewing means nothing to me, as I have no plans to switch my # or leave Rogers, as all providers are the same (service wise, etc)
Congrats to our northern neighbors! I have known for a long time how much of a screwjob Rogers was caused by that ****** founder Ted Rogers. I can't believe their slogan is "Innovating for life". What a joke! lol For those not in the know, Rogers wireless has traditionally had more expensive data rates than many 3rd-world nations in Asia and Africa! For you Rogers users, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING FUNDING SUCH A SCAM?
EVERYONE has got to read this.. This is Rogers current mobile internet plan:
At first it looks like a good deal, as it is advertised as "$7/month unlimited browsing". However, this is only for "eligible data usage". "eligible usage" in this case means you can ONLY use regular cellphones, NOT smartphones , and even then you can only use the "rogers internet browser" on your crappy cellphone which I'm sure is a complete joke.
For browsing on any type of smartphone, such as a Blackberry or Windows Mobile devices, you have to pay per the "standard rate" table, as seen on this webpage: http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-plans/essentials?content10=unlimited_ondevice_mobile#start
NOTE: regardless of what other's write, the data prices below are precisely what are posted on the actual website, and if you were to sign-up for a plan today, that is exactly what you would receive
Standard rate table for SMARTPHONE Data plans:
"Up to 5MB = $15/MB
5MB > 10MB = $10/MB
10MB > 20MB = $5/MB
more than 20MB = $0.50/MB thereafter"
So, adding it up from the above scale, this is what is costs PER MONTH for data usage on a Smartphone:
5MB per month, $75/month
10MB per month, $125/month
20MB per month, $175/month
100MB per month, $215/month
1000MB per month, $665/month
So for using 5GB (5000MB) per month (AT&T's "unlimited data" is limited to 5GB/month) Roger's customers would pay a whopping $2,665 per month
EVERYONE has got to read this.. This is Rogers current mobile internet plan:
At first it looks like a good deal, as it is advertised as "$7/month unlimited browsing". However, this is only for "eligible data usage". "eligible usage" in this case means you can ONLY use regular cellphones, NOT smartphones , and even then you can only use the "rogers internet browser" on your crappy cellphone which I'm sure is a complete joke.
For browsing on any type of smartphone, such as a Blackberry or Windows Mobile devices, you have to pay per the "standard rate" table, as seen on this webpage: http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-plans/essentials?content10=unlimited_ondevice_mobile#start
NOTE: regardless of what other's write, the data prices below are precisely what are posted on the actual website, and if you were to sign-up for a plan today, that is exactly what you would receive
Standard rate table for SMARTPHONE Data plans:
"Up to 5MB = $15/MB
5MB > 10MB = $10/MB
10MB > 20MB = $5/MB
more than 20MB = $0.50/MB thereafter"
So, adding it up from the above scale, this is what is costs PER MONTH for data usage on a Smartphone:
5MB per month, $75/month
10MB per month, $125/month
20MB per month, $175/month
100MB per month, $215/month
1000MB per month, $665/month
So for using 5GB (5000MB) per month (AT&T's "unlimited data" is limited to 5GB/month) Roger's customers would pay a whopping $2,665 per month
Hi, I'm the person who posted the thread at ehmac.ca now under discussion here on macrumors.com :
http://www.ehmac.ca/ipod-itunes-iph...ctivation-data-plans-sign-up-process-etc.html
The source was a member of howardforums.com, the largest cell phone site in the world, and who works for fido (a cell phone company owned by Rogers Wireless) (member = "i.Fido") who posted this thread, here:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1385871
He posted it before in a massive iPhone thread that got locked so this new one could start. He also posted it, first, on facebook, where he started a group. Search facebook for "iPhone 3G in Canada."
This post I'm quoting below is interesting.
I actually gave up the $7 per month unlimited data plan. Contrary to what is listed below, both wap and html are confirmed as included, and browsing on a Rogers wireless device is indeed unlimited. It just isn't as much fun, even on a Nokia N95 8GB, as it would be on an iPhone.
Before I had the $7 per month plan I had the $10/10MB monthly data plan, of which $5 was credited back to me. On a basic device, that's actually pretty useful.
What should be compared, though, is data plan to data plan. The $20 add-on to the AT&T iPhone plan, $20 or $30 now, is being *matched* by Rogers Wireless, if the unofficial report becomes official and true. That's what customers asked for, and that's what Rogers is providing.
As for the animosity of people like the person I quoted below, wtf? If you don't like something, don't buy it. Their new slogan is "Canada's most reliable network." I've found Rogers to be reliable. It's not perfect but it's just a company. Ignore the old data rates winterspan quoted. They're out of date as now. The Rogers/Nokia N95 8GB is a smartphone and data is $7 per month unlimited.
http://www.ehmac.ca/ipod-itunes-iph...ctivation-data-plans-sign-up-process-etc.html
The source was a member of howardforums.com, the largest cell phone site in the world, and who works for fido (a cell phone company owned by Rogers Wireless) (member = "i.Fido") who posted this thread, here:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1385871
He posted it before in a massive iPhone thread that got locked so this new one could start. He also posted it, first, on facebook, where he started a group. Search facebook for "iPhone 3G in Canada."
This post I'm quoting below is interesting.
I actually gave up the $7 per month unlimited data plan. Contrary to what is listed below, both wap and html are confirmed as included, and browsing on a Rogers wireless device is indeed unlimited. It just isn't as much fun, even on a Nokia N95 8GB, as it would be on an iPhone.
Before I had the $7 per month plan I had the $10/10MB monthly data plan, of which $5 was credited back to me. On a basic device, that's actually pretty useful.
What should be compared, though, is data plan to data plan. The $20 add-on to the AT&T iPhone plan, $20 or $30 now, is being *matched* by Rogers Wireless, if the unofficial report becomes official and true. That's what customers asked for, and that's what Rogers is providing.
As for the animosity of people like the person I quoted below, wtf? If you don't like something, don't buy it. Their new slogan is "Canada's most reliable network." I've found Rogers to be reliable. It's not perfect but it's just a company. Ignore the old data rates winterspan quoted. They're out of date as now. The Rogers/Nokia N95 8GB is a smartphone and data is $7 per month unlimited.
For those interested:
Rogers' iPhone data rate pricing:
http://www.rgbfilter.com/?page_id=4&forum=13&topic=54&page=1
...oh, this is already all over this. Sorry guyz, I should read more carefully first
Rogers' iPhone data rate pricing:
http://www.rgbfilter.com/?page_id=4&forum=13&topic=54&page=1
...oh, this is already all over this. Sorry guyz, I should read more carefully first
...oh, this is already all over this. Sorry guyz, I should read more carefully first
No problem, the source was only explained exactly one post before yours.
STOP telling others to ignore the pricing I put up and claiming them to be "out of date". That's a COMPLETE LIE AND YOU KNOW IT. Those rates came right off the OFFICIAL ROGERS WEBSITE. Any changes to pricing in the future is irrelevant and worthless, as it is just speculation. Like you said, "if the unofficial reports becomes true". And I'm not a rogers customer, and I don't live in Canada. I am only revealing how much of a rip-off Roger's service plans are.
And what are you, a damn Roger's spokesman? By the way you are defending their pricing racket, it appears you are a Roger's PR operative. Either way, stop spreading your ********. Roger's has the most outrageous data prices in the developed world, PERIOD. You'd have to spend over $2000 a month for the same data usage as AT&T's 3G iPhone plan.
Please use your inside voice.
Rogers has posted major new data plans--not for the iPhone--that make those plans completely out of date.
I don't work for Rogers, but I know a lot of people who do. Regardless of that, it's nice to see you taking an interest in international wireless data rates. It's nice to have a hobby, I guess.
btw the plans you quoted were out of date when you posted them. You can find lots of stuff on Rogers' site like that. They were however "grandparented" so they are still in effect for some people. But why wouldn't people switch to the new plans? In any case, this thread is about the iPhone plans--$30 and $45 for unlimited data. A lot better than the $10-$5/10MB that I used to have. And I had the $7 unlimited but that is not applicable to the iPhone.
Here are the plans that make your entry last year's news. And remember what I said about your inside voice.
These are *non-iPhone* plans:
Rogers has posted major new data plans--not for the iPhone--that make those plans completely out of date.
I don't work for Rogers, but I know a lot of people who do. Regardless of that, it's nice to see you taking an interest in international wireless data rates. It's nice to have a hobby, I guess.
btw the plans you quoted were out of date when you posted them. You can find lots of stuff on Rogers' site like that. They were however "grandparented" so they are still in effect for some people. But why wouldn't people switch to the new plans? In any case, this thread is about the iPhone plans--$30 and $45 for unlimited data. A lot better than the $10-$5/10MB that I used to have. And I had the $7 unlimited but that is not applicable to the iPhone.
Here are the plans that make your entry last year's news. And remember what I said about your inside voice.
These are *non-iPhone* plans:
Rogers said:
So, if I buy an iPhone on July 11 and and 18 months time I want the next latest and greatest, why would I have to sign a new contract? Can't I buy a new iPhone from Apple and transfer the SIM? My service doesn't change just because I'm getting a new phone.
It seems a bit unclear: are iPhone's only available from Rogers or Fido stores? The Apple stores won't carry them?
It seems a bit unclear: are iPhone's only available from Rogers or Fido stores? The Apple stores won't carry them?
Yes, you would have to sign a new contract usually for 24 or 36 months depending upon how much you want to pay for the latest and greatest.
I understand it as they will only be avail from Rogers and Fido not the apple store. The Apple.com store points you to Rogers and Fido.
Ya seems that way. Kinda dumb on their part (Apple), but I guess it was all part of the deal. Will decrease foot traffic by 500% in the Apple Stores at least
This information from the thread cited:
suggests some ambiguity about whether the iPhone will be sold in Apple stores.
It seems absurd that Apple won't continue to sell the iPhone in its stores in countries where it is available. It drives *so* much traffic and introduces new Apple users to other products. It would be absurd. Plus, they will be activating the iPhone in Apple Canada stores anyways.
Well I keep my eyes on cellphone forums to see if any deals pop up, if there are any, sometimes I call in, if I can't get the deal, then it's not the end of the world. Rogers has treated me so well compared to what my family puts up with another carrier.
Where I live, Manitoba, there was a promotional plan because almost everyone in the province uses the CDMA carrier due to coverage, to fight back Rogers introduced an insanely cheap plan, I love it.
Retentions is cancellations, they give you some leeway on plans, theyve given me some options that I love. When you call in to Rogers you would say cancel my account over the system and it would direct you to retentions. There, you would be able to tell them that you are concidering to switch to someone else like Telus because your voice plan is too expensive, ask if you could get something for cheaper, plus ask for the $5 plan that gives you 1000 Canadian long distancee.. thats been a life saver to me and many of my friends
Most times, if you've been on your current contract for more than a few months, they will accomodate to voice plan changes. Ive seen some sweet plans where people are paying even less than me and have even more options and minutes! Just think what you want to be paying, and lots of times they can help