The ambiguity comes from this difference:
for Canada it says Rogers and fido, for the US it says AT&T and Apple stores.
Still not sure yet.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/buy/
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Rogers to Introduce Cheaper Data Plans in Canada?
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The ambiguity comes from this difference:
for Canada it says Rogers and fido, for the US it says AT&T and Apple stores.
Still not sure yet.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/buy/
Well I keep my eyes on cellphone forums to see if any deals pop up, if there are any, sometimes I call in, if I can't get the deal, then it's not the end of the world. Rogers has treated me so well compared to what my family puts up with another carrier.
Where I live, Manitoba, there was a promotional plan because almost everyone in the province uses the CDMA carrier due to coverage, to fight back Rogers introduced an insanely cheap plan, I love it.
Retentions is cancellations, they give you some leeway on plans, theyve given me some options that I love. When you call in to Rogers you would say cancel my account over the system and it would direct you to retentions. There, you would be able to tell them that you are concidering to switch to someone else like Telus because your voice plan is too expensive, ask if you could get something for cheaper, plus ask for the $5 plan that gives you 1000 Canadian long distancee.. thats been a life saver to me and many of my friends
Most times, if you've been on your current contract for more than a few months, they will accomodate to voice plan changes. Ive seen some sweet plans where people are paying even less than me and have even more options and minutes! Just think what you want to be paying, and lots of times they can help
Ah ok. Thanks for the info. I'll keep an eye out for deals.
And I'll definitely be calling them to see if I can get them to lower my price!
He/she already said that they need some things that leaves out the possibility of using the cheapest crap/budget contracts and your $20 Fido one is exactly that. Then you give us a story about how the rest of your family pays ten bucks each (not sure if I even believe that), on an *unadvertised* deal.
That's all fine for you if we believe you (I kinda don't sorry), but even so, to then turn around and say the person "isn't trying hard enough" is pretty damn rude IMO. I'm betting that you probably micro-manage the toilet paper supply at your house also.
Well, I didn't mean to be rude, but my post was aimed at the point of the post that I was replying to. His point was essentially "Wow, Rogers is such a total rip off, look at how much they made me pay when I barely use the phone!!!!" and my point in response was, well, did you even investigate ways to do better? It's like me complaining "Wow, Sears is so expensive, I was totally ripped off!" and you say "Well, why didn't you wait for the next 70% off sale?" Or, "I went in to buy a new Ford and that sticker price is such a rip-off!"
I'm sorry if you don't believe me, but the $10 Fido retention plan is (was?) fairly common. If the poster was truly upset about paying so much when he only used the phone for 20 minutes a month, a simple call to Rogers/Fido could have set him up with something better. That's exactly WHY my family is on that plan -- one by one they decided the phone wasn't worth it, made the call, and each got offered the $10 plan. I would have jumped on that too except that I actually use my 200 minutes for $20, so I wouldn't have saved anything.
I guess this all does underscore the evil of contracts -- if you didn't shop around before you signed, or - gasp! - haggle, you could be totally stuck.
Rogers set to unveil new pricing model
The Toronto Star today published a story revealing the new data pricing model from Rogers... and guess what? It sucks.
Essentially, the lowest price for data is $60 per month and you only get 1GB. In the meantime, the rest of the world is getting unlimited data for $30 p/mo.
I'm still going to get the iPhone – and Rogers has the monopoly – but I'm furious how Rogers continues to rip off its customers and how the CRTC just handed them a GSM monopoly by allowing them to buy Microcell Solutions (Fido). When Telus moves to 3G next year, I'll be the first in line to flip the finger to Rogers.
I've already cancelled my Rogers cable and I'm in the process of finding a new ISP. Wherever I can avoid it, Rogers will not be getting my money. Unfortunately, they're the only providers of the iPhone in Canada.
Note: I read the last mention how the iPhone is an exception but I haven't seen any word from Rogers confirming this. Nonetheless, 1GB for $60 is still the rip off of the century. I hope I'm wrong but Rogers will likely impose restrictions on data meaning it's unlikely that we'll have an unlimited plan.
The Toronto Star today published a story revealing the new data pricing model from Rogers... and guess what? It sucks.
Essentially, the lowest price for data is $60 per month and you only get 1GB. In the meantime, the rest of the world is getting unlimited data for $30 p/mo.
I'm still going to get the iPhone – and Rogers has the monopoly – but I'm furious how Rogers continues to rip off its customers and how the CRTC just handed them a GSM monopoly by allowing them to buy Microcell Solutions (Fido). When Telus moves to 3G next year, I'll be the first in line to flip the finger to Rogers.
I've already cancelled my Rogers cable and I'm in the process of finding a new ISP. Wherever I can avoid it, Rogers will not be getting my money. Unfortunately, they're the only providers of the iPhone in Canada.
Note: I read the last mention how the iPhone is an exception but I haven't seen any word from Rogers confirming this. Nonetheless, 1GB for $60 is still the rip off of the century. I hope I'm wrong but Rogers will likely impose restrictions on data meaning it's unlikely that we'll have an unlimited plan.
A few points:
- The plans don't start at $60, the complete list of plans was posted here this morning, see earlier in this thread for details.
- The iPhone data plan has not been announced yet, but is widely speculated to be $30 for unlimited data.
- Telus won't be switching to GSM, therefore will never get the iPhone.
With these rip off prices, I'd be willing to explore the possibility of signing up with AT&T and getting one of their roaming oriented plans. It could possibly be cheaper or break even considering the high rates Rogers charges.
Thanks for the heads up. However, Telus is known to be switching to HSPA which the iPhone works on. GSM will be old news by the time the next iPhone comes around. While it takes up more power (5 hours talk time vs 10 hrs), it is possible to not use GSM and EDGE altogether with iPhone 3G.
Also, I noticed how the pricing options mention moderate laptop usage or heavy laptop usage. Does this mean that I can get my MacBook Pro online with my iPhone?
How would I do that and what kind of speeds would I get?
If I could get decent speeds, I wouldn't mind disconnecting my home internet line and buying a higher quota mobile data plan.
Thanks for the heads up. However, Telus is known to be switching to HSPA which the iPhone works on. GSM will be old news by the time the next iPhone comes around. While it takes up more power (5 hours talk time vs 10 hrs), it is possible to not use GSM and EDGE altogether with iPhone 3G.
Also, I noticed how the pricing options mention moderate laptop usage or heavy laptop usage. Does this mean that I can get my MacBook Pro online with my iPhone?
How would I do that and what kind of speeds would I get?
If I could get decent speeds, I wouldn't mind disconnecting my home internet line and buying a higher quota mobile data plan.
not true.
I just spoke with a friend who works for Rogers financial department and the $30 unlimited data plan is BS. She says that data plans for the iPhone will range between $70 and $90 CAN on top of their already ridiculous voice plans.
sorry to be the bearer of bad news...
I just spoke with a friend who works for Rogers financial department and the $30 unlimited data plan is BS. She says that data plans for the iPhone will range between $70 and $90 CAN on top of their already ridiculous voice plans.
sorry to be the bearer of bad news...
My friend's cousin's dog's walker's girlfriend says you're wrong.
In fact, so do actual Rogers employees.
That won't stop Rogers from changing the potential plans before they're announced officially, but the chance that anyone will pay $70+ for data is nil, so it's a non-starter.
By the way, my "ridiculous" Rogers voice plan is $18 per month. How much do you pay?
She is a Rogers employee, and furthermore an employee who isn't trying to sell you a phone or a 3 year plan. What can I say other than congratulations that your plan is $18, but for the rest of us who actually use their cell phones (or didn't sign up for a plan in 1993) you're looking at $50+ after voice($25-30), text (min. $11) and system access fees ($6.95).
Say what you want, but if you actually think that Rogers offers fair and affordable plans in comparison with the US or Europe, you might need to take another look.
When I use my iPhone in US, it is so free with their unlimited data plan.... but when I get back to canada, I just stuck in 4mb pre month blackburry plan; in fact I don't think Rogers will become a "good guy", so if they set the price the 60 and 100 bucks for data, I will keep using my crappy blackburry plan on iPhone with no internet browsing...... OR.... find a place to buy a new iPhone 3G and unlock it...
EPP and corporate deals are available to anyone with a pulse, as are retention deals. Your friend might also verify that this is the case. Heck, perhaps she can get you a better deal; just about anybody else can.
My deal is $18 plus $5 (6pm free) + $7 unlimited web browsing + $2 text messaging plan - $(loyalty credits) + $6.95 "system access fee."
So my concern is that the "qualifying voice plans" might have a higher starting revenue. Rogers hasn't said what the minimum voice plan that qualifies will be. It might be that only people paying $25 or $30 per month, with no added features or fees, qualify for the iPhone $30 plan. But that's not a concern for those who don't think it exists anyways.
More from the source:
i.Fido on HowardForums.com said:
Laptop usage is based on tethering (which isn't supported on the iPhone 3G [or original model, but I believe there was a hack to enable it]) or using a PCMCIA or Express Card slot devices to connect to the cell network.
Personally, I have a cell phone with Rogers now. It sounds to me like it will be a pain to upgrade even though I have a phone from Feb 07. I will try to pawn off my phone and contract on my sister and get the iPhone (with the same number which will also be hell since she has a phone from Virgin to keep the same number...). I'm also waiting for official word on pricing and availability... :/
Until recently, Rogers employees were told not to activate iPhone 1.0 on Rogers plans. As of today, any device can use one of the following data plans, so it's a whole different world. These aren't as good as the as yet unofficial $30/$45 unlimited, but wow, perfect data plans for iPhone 1.0 users.
I still like the $7 unlimited on-device browsing data plan, but that's only available on Rogers devices, and is tracked by IMEI. That's way less than the $30/$45 unlimited for iPhone 3G, but hey with those you get an iPhone 3G...
I still like the $7 unlimited on-device browsing data plan, but that's only available on Rogers devices, and is tracked by IMEI. That's way less than the $30/$45 unlimited for iPhone 3G, but hey with those you get an iPhone 3G...
damn....
the highs and lows of speculation...
30 bucks unlimited!!
or
60 bucks for 1 gig....
if it's the latter....i mean....i'll....just......snap
relocate, pack a U haul
making us wait for a year, just to stick it up our ass
ok....i'm not gonna freak out. the stupid Rogers site is still not working,,,here's to Ted and company doing the right thing...and to waking up tomorrow morning to a $30 unlimited data plan for us Canadians.
hey....it could happen.
Like Kevin Garnett said the other night
"Anything is Possible!!!!"
the highs and lows of speculation...
30 bucks unlimited!!
or
60 bucks for 1 gig....
if it's the latter....i mean....i'll....just......snap
relocate, pack a U haul
making us wait for a year, just to stick it up our ass
ok....i'm not gonna freak out. the stupid Rogers site is still not working,,,here's to Ted and company doing the right thing...and to waking up tomorrow morning to a $30 unlimited data plan for us Canadians.
hey....it could happen.
Like Kevin Garnett said the other night
"Anything is Possible!!!!"
Rogers is teh sux0rs.
Either make me sign a 3 year prison contract,
or make me add a $X/mth data to my voice plan,
but don't make me do both...
I was excited about the iPhone in Canada...but if we're forced to sign both 3 years and add the data plan, well that's just not happening for me.
Too bad too...I was looking forward to owning one, but meh...I'll live.
Either make me sign a 3 year prison contract,
or make me add a $X/mth data to my voice plan,
but don't make me do both...
I was excited about the iPhone in Canada...but if we're forced to sign both 3 years and add the data plan, well that's just not happening for me.
Too bad too...I was looking forward to owning one, but meh...I'll live.
1. Rogers doesn't even cover the little town where I live.
2. I'm already trying to find a ~10$/month cellphone plan
3. I bought a 16 GiB iPod touch more than 6 months ago (when they finally added Safari, Google Maps, etc)
iPhone in Canada? Sure. All you need is your current cellphone, an iPod touch and duct tape. Red Green would be proud.
2. I'm already trying to find a ~10$/month cellphone plan
3. I bought a 16 GiB iPod touch more than 6 months ago (when they finally added Safari, Google Maps, etc)
iPhone in Canada? Sure. All you need is your current cellphone, an iPod touch and duct tape. Red Green would be proud.
Retentions dept
By the way, those of you who think you have a great plan with Rogers, but you got it through the retentions dept ...
You get to Retentions by threatening to cancel your contract. Companies use the retention dept as a last resort when the usual customer service dept can't keep you as a customer. Regular folk shouldn't be encouraged to call retentions to get the "best" package. That's as ridiculous as crying wolf to get attention.
Rogers should be offering good packages to Joe Canadian without everyone threatening to cancel.
By the way, those of you who think you have a great plan with Rogers, but you got it through the retentions dept ...
You get to Retentions by threatening to cancel your contract. Companies use the retention dept as a last resort when the usual customer service dept can't keep you as a customer. Regular folk shouldn't be encouraged to call retentions to get the "best" package. That's as ridiculous as crying wolf to get attention.
Rogers should be offering good packages to Joe Canadian without everyone threatening to cancel.
Aside from being off topic, what's your point? "Company X should do this." How is that helpful?
It may actually be that the retentions department will offer good iPhone deals; it may be the iPhone won't be available this way; until it is, there are other carriers with other phones.
It may actually be that the retentions department will offer good iPhone deals; it may be the iPhone won't be available this way; until it is, there are other carriers with other phones.
If it's 30 bucks unlimited, then sign me up for 3 iPhones. If it's 60 bucks for 1 gig, then Rogers can forget it!
Hopefully Rogers will recognize this as a chance to increase its penetration into the emerging smartphone/mediaphone market and will do the right thing.
Rogers, are you listening?
Actually they are "known" to be switching to LTE just like Verizon (and almost everyone else). There was some rumors that they might overlap their coverage in BC for the Olympics with HSDPA to get some of the roaming revenue.
It looks like we will have to wait for a few more years to get the iPhone on another provider up here. The spectrum auctions are promising but any new providers will be using aws spectrum and apparently the iPhone 3G doesn't support that.
yes, i've beenw aiting for rogers to gets ome competition up here for over 5 years now so that we can get some not as expensive phone service..
Just a little information that I gathered today that might make all of us a tad more antsy and a bit more willing to camp in front of certain Rogers stores:
Today, I had lunch with the owner of three Rogers stores in downtown Toronto and he speculated that because of the few Apple Stores in Canada, there won't be an iPhone for sale there (not worth setting up an external Rogers system for so few stores).
Even more worrisome is that this owner said that none of his stores will be getting the iPhone on July 11th. There will only be a select few stores in Toronto that will have stock the first day.
In retrospect, it makes sense considering that this is a worldwide release and I doubt they have enough stock for every Rogers store in Canada.
Now the trick will be to know which ones will have it and start setting up the tent a week in advance.
Today, I had lunch with the owner of three Rogers stores in downtown Toronto and he speculated that because of the few Apple Stores in Canada, there won't be an iPhone for sale there (not worth setting up an external Rogers system for so few stores).
Even more worrisome is that this owner said that none of his stores will be getting the iPhone on July 11th. There will only be a select few stores in Toronto that will have stock the first day.
In retrospect, it makes sense considering that this is a worldwide release and I doubt they have enough stock for every Rogers store in Canada.
Now the trick will be to know which ones will have it and start setting up the tent a week in advance.
Just out of curiosity, why would you ever expect that based on the original iPhone launch in the US that generally has BETTER cell policies than us?