Rosetta gone from Mavericks

Snow4ever

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Hi, just updated to Mavericks and found PPC programs are no longer supported. Is there any way to install Rosetta back into Mavericks at all?

Thanks in advance:)
 

Fangio

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Rosetta disappeared with 10.7 Lion.

You could run 10.6.8 SnowLeo in a Virtual Machine, for example with VMware or Parallels.
 
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Rosetta has been gone since Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, which was released in 2011.

If you really have to run PowerPC applications, you have to use Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, either on a secondary partition on your Mac or as a Virtual Machine.
 
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So what is a virtual machine and what's the advantages?:confused:
A Virtual Machine is a a virtual computer inside your computer.

You install Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion or VirtualBox (free) and install an OS inside that application to run Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard within OS X 10.9 Mavericks. It is a bit slower than running an OS natively, like you did with Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard before upgrading to OS X 10.9 Mavericks, and it requires some RAM, 2 GB at least, 4 GB would be nice, to just have for that one Virtual Machine (VM).

Maybe this can help, if you decide to use VMWare Fusion: http://macs.about.com/od/windowsony...rd-And-Snow-Leopard-Using-Vmware-Fusion_2.htm

Advanced Search or MRoogle can also help you finding topics about that issue.
 

maflynn

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So what is a virtual machine and what's the advantages?:confused:
You run Vmware Fusion which allows you to run an instance of an operating system within another operating system. That is you have a virtual machine instead of a physical one.
 

tywebb13

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You could run 10.6.8 SnowLeo in a Virtual Machine
you have to use Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, either on a secondary partition on your Mac or as a Virtual Machine.
You could run Snow Leopard as a partition (provided your computer is old enough), but as a virtual machine if you want to do it legally, it has to be Snow Leopard Server.

Here is listed supported guest systems in vmware fusion 6: http://www.vmware.com/au/support/fusion/faq/requirements. They include Snow Leopard Server but not Snow Leopard - for legal reasons, not technical reasons. It's the same for parallels and virtualbox. This parallels page explains why in more detail: http://kb.parallels.com/en/112323

I have a virtual machine of Snow Leopard Server to run my ppc apps. It works pretty good as a virtual machine.
 
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Snow4ever

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Sounds like it won't be very powerful though. How much would it cost for the server dick and the parallels disk or VM disk? What is the secondary partition one?

Thanks
 

maflynn

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Look on eBay for the software, that will give you a sense of cost and Vmware Fusion is about 60 bucks
 

Fangio

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[...] I have a virtual machine of Snow Leopard Server to run my ppc apps. It works pretty good as a virtual machine.
Me too. Getting sound from it can get a bit tricky though.

[...] What is the secondary partition one?
You could run Snow Leopard from a partition on your disk or another disk. Internal or external depends on your machine. You'd have to boot from it every time you want to use PPC apps.
 
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tywebb13

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You could run Snow Leopard from a partition on your disk or another disk. Internal or external depends on your machine. You'd have to boot from it every time you want to use PPC apps.
Yeah. This is a bit of a pain though. This is why I prefer virtual machines instead. No need to reboot the computer then.
 

Fishrrman

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To clarify what was posted above:

To my knowledge, you CANNOT run "Snow Leopard" (client edition) in a virtual box.

You CAN run "Snow Leopard Server" in a virtual box.

Snow Leopard Server is readily available. Just ignore the server apps within it, and it will work as needed...
 

drew627

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Rosetta Stone runs just fine here. Just update before you come on here................
 

chrfr

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Rosetta Stone runs just fine here. Just update before you come on here................
Rosetta Stone isn't Rosetta. Rosetta is the emulator built into OS X 10.4-10.6 which allowed PowerPC applications to run on Intel Macs.
 

colourfastt

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OP...what apps? again, just simplest to update your apps...
Probably a good suggestion if you're a casual home user, but business software doesn't have a constant upgrade cycle. The reason the business community will never consider Macs as more than just toys.
 

Snow4ever

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OP...what apps? again, just simplest to update your apps...
Good point I suppose. Between the cost of Parrallells and the SL Server ($70 on eBay) then I am thinking that Snow Leopard virtualisation is a poor choice, given that it is slower as previously mentioned. But the bit about running it on another partition sounds good.
 

chrfr

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Good point I suppose. Between the cost of Parrallells and the SL Server ($70 on eBay) then I am thinking that Snow Leopard virtualisation is a poor choice, given that it is slower as previously mentioned. But the bit about running it on another partition sounds good.
You can get Snow Leopard Server for $20 by calling Apple.
 

fisherking

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Probably a good suggestion if you're a casual home user, but business software doesn't have a constant upgrade cycle. The reason the business community will never consider Macs as more than just toys.
which business community? lots of companies are on macs now (at least, in graphics, music, photography, film...) :cool:
 

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Probably a good suggestion if you're a casual home user, but business software doesn't have a constant upgrade cycle. The reason the business community will never consider Macs as more than just toys.
Given the amount of time basically all software has been updated to run on intel or it is dead and since it will never see another update it probably is a good idea to look for something else that is still being maintained.
 

Gochugogi

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Sounds like it won't be very powerful though. How much would it cost for the server dick and the parallels disk or VM disk? What is the secondary partition one?

Thanks
I have Snow Lep and Mavericks running on my 2009 Mac Pro but, instead of a secondary partition, I have it on a separate hard drive inside the Mac. When I need to run an old PPC app I go to System Preferences and select that drive and restart. Both systems are on SSD so restarts only take about 15 seconds. You can also install Snow Lep on an external drive. I guessing if your Mac can run Snow Lep you can use a FW800 drive. USB 2 is too slow.

I still have an ancient G4 tower with OS 9.1 and 10.3x if I need to go back even further (mostly converting old graphic files).
 

OldCorpse

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There are a TON of legacy apps that are no longer updated, and that have no equivalent, and so you need Rosetta - no ifs, buts or maybes. Example of one I use pretty much every day: 77 million paintings by Brian Eno, which runs on PPC only, and has not been updated since 2008, and unlikely to be. I have an external drive with 10.6.8 and I can boot into it to run legacy apps.
 
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