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Full versions of leopard server and snow leopard server are available for free download on apple's mac dev center.
 
There are a TON of legacy apps that are no longer updated, and that have no equivalent, and so you need Rosetta - no ifs, buts or maybes. Example of one I use pretty much every day: 77 million paintings by Brian Eno, which runs on PPC only, and has not been updated since 2008, and unlikely to be. I have an external drive with 10.6.8 and I can boot into it to run legacy apps.

TONS? that have no reasonable equivalent in modern software? can you name some of them? (outside of eon's 2006 software. 2006...
 
Yeah. They expire on December 31 this year. But it is still good that it is free.
 
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Yeah. They expire on December 31 this year. But it still good that it is free.

It's only free in that it's included with the $99/year subscription. At some point Apple will stop providing a new serial number for 10.5 and 10.6 Server.
 
Rosetta has been gone since Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, which was released in 2011.

If you really have to run PowerPC applications, you have to use Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, either on a secondary partition on your Mac or as a Virtual Machine.

Thanks for the info. Have decided to go with installing SL on a speedster partition. Read up on some stuff by a Michael Lax in another thread and running it in a virtual setup just seems slow and clumsy and rather expensive as well (I don't think that dude has tested any other OSX!!! Lol) so thanks for the suggestion, you have answered my question.

Thanks

Snow4ever

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Rosetta has been gone since Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, which was released in 2011.

If you really have to run PowerPC applications, you have to use Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, either on a secondary partition on your Mac or as a Virtual Machine.

Thanks for the info. Have decided to go with installing SL on a seperate partition. Read up on some stuff by a Michael Lax in another thread and running it in a virtual setup just seems slow and clumsy and rather expensive as well (I don't think that dude has tested any other OSX!!! Lol) so thanks for the suggestion, you have answered my question.

Thanks

Snow4ever
 
The OP's decision to create a separate partition for Snow Leopard is a good one.

I keep various iterations of the OS available on my older iMac:
- 10.5
- 10.6
- 10.7
... all available with a reboot, whenever I need them...
 
Thanks Fishrrman, all good now with Snow Leopard running on another partition. Glad I didn't go the Parrallals way, most I have spoken to seem to think it is a very poor and inadequate way to run SL. I saved good dollars so will put it towards upgrading some software and then happily delete the SL partition and stay with Mavericks or whatever comes next. It's very much faster and better than SL. Thanks again for the advice!:)
 
TONS? that have no reasonable equivalent in modern software? can you name some of them? (outside of eon's 2006 software. 2006...

Old games, theres no equivalent to games unless they are very simple. You might have a lot of utilities that you have bought for powerpc but you don't have the money to buy newer versions. I have at least 80 PowerPC applications on my computer/external hd, and just half of them are update-able.
 
That is probably your choice. I have updated or found replacement programs for the old PPC ones. They are very old now and with the quality of programs around these days (let alone what gets released in the future!) I think it is pretty silly and dangerous to be relying on 80 PPC programs. Games don't bother me. I have never used Macs as gaming machines. Playstation and Co. have that pretty well covered.
But thanks for answering.:)
 
That is probably your choice. I have updated or found replacement programs for the old PPC ones. They are very old now and with the quality of programs around these days (let alone what gets released in the future!) I think it is pretty silly and dangerous to be relying on 80 PPC programs. Games don't bother me. I have never used Macs as gaming machines. Playstation and Co. have that pretty well covered.
But thanks for answering.:)

Nah it was just an example, i can afford newer applications. Well games for PPC are just for nostalgia and I'm not relying on these 80 apps i just said that people might do. I just have them.
 
FYI if you want to be, erm, "naughty", there is a patch for Fusion that unlocks installing non-server versions of OS X. Use it myself.
 
Umm..... No thanks. That kinda sounds more messy than running SL in a virtual
Environment. As I said, I'm very happy I chose the dual boot option.

But thanks anyway.
 
Not everyone has the option to partition and run Snow Leopard on their Mac; especially those who have purchased new Macs since mid-2011.

Here is my "canned" answer to the problem of running PowerPC apps for all involved:

Unfortunately you got caught up in the minor miracle of Rosetta. Originally licensed by Apple when it migrated from the PowerPC CPU platform that it had used from the mid-1990's until the Intel CPU platform in 2006, Rosetta allowed Mac users to continue to use their library of PPC software transparently in emulation.

However, Apple's license to continue to use this technology expired with new releases of OS X commencing with Lion (and now Mountain Lion). While educational efforts have been made over the last 6 years, the fact is that Rosetta was SO successful that many users were caught unaware UNTIL they upgraded to Lion or Mountain Lion.

Workarounds:

1. If your Mac will support it, restore OS X Snow Leopard;

2. If your Mac will support it, partition your hard drive or add an external hard drive and install Snow Leopard into it and use the "dual-boot" method to choose between your PowerPC software or Lion/Mt. Lion/Mavericks;

3. Upgrade your software to Intel compatible versions if they are available, or find alternative software that will open your data files, modify them and save them;

4. Install Snow Leopard Server (with Rosetta) into Parallels or VMWare Fusion. Apple is now selling Snow Leopard Server for only $19.99 + sales tax & shipping; call 1.800.MYAPPLE (1.800.692.7753). This solution will give you concurrent use of your PowerPC applications and access to Lion, Mt. Lion or Mavericks.

NOTE: Computer games with complex, 3D or fast motion graphics make not work well or at all in virtualization

More information here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1365439/

Installing Snow Leopard Server into Parallels for DUMMIES!:

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/17285039/

[click on image below to enlarge - Appleworks running in Snow Leopard Server installed in Parallels for use in Lion, Mt. Lion and Mavericks]
 

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You could run Snow Leopard as a partition (provided your computer is old enough), but as a virtual machine if you want to do it legally, it has to be Snow Leopard Server.

It was a common Urban Myth that the Snow Leopard EULA prohibited is use in virtualization in Lion, Mt. Lion and Mavericks on a Mac.

That myth has been largely debunked over the last three years!

In any event, Apple rendered the debate largely moot, when it dropped the price of Snow Leopard Server by 95%; to the same $20 as Snow Leopard client.

For the diminishing few who still need the ability to run Snow Leopard client in Parallels, these instructions still function:
 
Wow. Are you the Virtualisation Police? If you read me last answer, I made my section and running SL Server was not involved. The price I was talking about included buying Parrallells which you didn't mention the price of. Thanks for the effort, but seriously running in Virtual mode spears sloppy and nowhere near as powerful as running in a second partition.

But thanks a way but I am happy with the direction I have taken. But good luck with your SL setup.
 
I am providing the global set of solutions to the common problem of running PowerPC apps post-Snow Leopard. Not sure why I rated the insult...
 
I asked a question which was answered for my needs.

You said
For the diminishing few who still need the ability to run Snow Leopard client in Parallels, these instructions still function:

I opened this thread for my issue, I don't want to know about the diminishing few. I have read your threads before making my decision and perhaps you should take a good look at the way you reply to people, many of them are both isolating and grandiose but thanks anyway.:)
 
You're confused if you think that by being the Thread Starter you have some proprietary interest in the remainder of the thread.

To the extent that I or anyone else on this forum has additional inforation, or choses to correct any incorrect information, or even add to incomplete information, they will clearly do so, with or without your permission.

If you feel that your question has been answered, yet find it an imposition to read further posts on this thread, feel free to turn off your email notification!
 
I asked a question which was answered for my needs.

You said
For the diminishing few who still need the ability to run Snow Leopard client in Parallels, these instructions still function:

I opened this thread for my issue, I don't want to know about the diminishing few. I have read your threads before making my decision and perhaps you should take a good look at the way you reply to people, many of them are both isolating and grandiose but thanks anyway.:)

You do realize that you're actually part of the "diminishing few", right? There's not a lot of people who need to run Snow Leopard for any reason, and you're part of that group whether you like it or not. Opening this thread doesn't grant you some sort of special and unique status that makes your case different from everyone else. If anything, your post is exclusionary and isolating, because you attempt to portray your case as totally unique.
 
Well thank you Mr. Lax from your obvious fetish with Virtualisation. But I am new but you have been you seemingly for a long time. If you didn't insult people then the same may apply.
:)
 
If you didn't insult people then the same may apply.
:)

Again, you go out of your way to insult me for reasons that are not entirely clear!

Could you cite me a few examples of where you feel that I insulted others?

Perhaps there is a language or cultural difference between us that is the underlying basis of your incorrect conclusions...

Well thank you Mr. Lax from your obvious fetish with Virtualisation.
By the way, not everyone continues to own a Mac old enough to boot Snow Leopard from a separate partition, such as you. Those who have purchased Macs since about mid-2011 must boot Lion, Mt. Lion or Mavericks.

How do you propose that they run their PowerPC applications that cannot be updated to an Intel version and for which there are no alternative programs to use in their stead?
 
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Wow. Are you the Virtualisation Police? If you read me last answer, I made my section and running SL Server was not involved.

Needlessly rude, especially considering MichaelLAX's posts were not direct replies to you, but to other posters on this thread. It is also very informative, and will probably be quite useful to someone searching a solution to a similar problem to yours in the future.

Don't take it as an insult, if someone posts information that is userul to many others, but doesn't happen to concern you this tile. This is an open forum.
 
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