I don't think that would do well on MR.
"Do you have an ASS? No, I don't have an ASS but, I want an ASS."
That would end in a lot of mod reports. lol
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Rosetta May Be Removed From M1 Macs in Some Regions on macOS 11.3
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"Do you have an ASS? No, I don't have an ASS but, I want an ASS."
That would end in a lot of mod reports. lol
It sure would be a massive fail if this issue affects a "region" with a lot of users. Apple is gonna be sued or will have to issue refunds or swap them for Intel machines. A lot of people upgraded and sold their old computers.
Ah, good point. That makes more sense...
I assumed it was an IP issue, and couldn't figure out why Apple would just preemptively pull the plug on a key technology rather than either license, fight, or buy it. Not being able to export the technology to small markets makes a lot more sense.
Somebody probably realized this was a work around to an export control on Intel processors or something.
Before hyperventilating, it might be good to find out which regions they are and why ...
Yeah that's not what's happening.
Yeah that's not what's happening.
If it runs on your Dell, you can put it in your ASS...
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Nobody said it was a patent issue. In fact, it’s probably not.
And nobody is even sure that it will even happen - there have been strings like this in the code about things like LTE support, and other things, that have never come to pass.
This is almost certainly due to export control.
Russia was just added to the export control list across a whole range of areas, so Apple has likely decided that Rosetta 2 technology violates these controls.
They’ve probably applied any geographic detection and ban to other designated regions too, even if they don’t presently sell Macs there.
Russia was just added to the export control list across a whole range of areas, so Apple has likely decided that Rosetta 2 technology violates these controls.
They’ve probably applied any geographic detection and ban to other designated regions too, even if they don’t presently sell Macs there.
Get swindled as much as you want. ARM only is useless and not what was advertised when they bought the computer. This is sufficient cause for allowing refunds. If you disagree then keep your fancy new paperweight, I’m sure it’ll be useful in a few years
So, apparently most people commenting must think this is Apple's first rodeo. It isn't.
Has Apple been working toward ASi and the accompanying product transition (sw and hw) for years? Answer: YES
Has Apple ever transitioned its products from one CPU architecture to another? Answer: YES
Was that transition (PowerPC -> Intel) successful? Answer: YES
Has Apple every used an instruction set translator (Rosetta I) to accomplish a processor transition? Answer: YES
Has Apple done a huge patent deal with Intel recently to purchase their entire cellular business/patents? Answer: YES
Would Apple proceed with this transition without all patent licensing necessary to *ensure* its success? Answer: NO
Is Apple the largest tech company on the planet with an enormous amount of cash? Answer: YES
Be real. @cmaier has already given the most likely reason for Rosetta being restricted in some regions.
Has Apple been working toward ASi and the accompanying product transition (sw and hw) for years? Answer: YES
Has Apple ever transitioned its products from one CPU architecture to another? Answer: YES
Was that transition (PowerPC -> Intel) successful? Answer: YES
Has Apple every used an instruction set translator (Rosetta I) to accomplish a processor transition? Answer: YES
Has Apple done a huge patent deal with Intel recently to purchase their entire cellular business/patents? Answer: YES
Would Apple proceed with this transition without all patent licensing necessary to *ensure* its success? Answer: NO
Is Apple the largest tech company on the planet with an enormous amount of cash? Answer: YES
Be real. @cmaier has already given the most likely reason for Rosetta being restricted in some regions.
Simple solution for myself, do not update to 11.3 right away. 🤷♂️
I sure as hell wouldn't. That would be almost as greedy as back when Apple used to charge $10 for iPod touch firmware updates.
Anyone else remember that?
It cost $10 to update iOS 1 to iOS2, and another $10 to go from iOS 2 to iOS 3.
Apple claimed they were required by law to charge for firmware updates. But at the same time, they didn't charge iPhone owners for firmware updates.
It was shameless for Apple to do it with iOS firmware updates back then. And it would be shameless to do it with Rosetta now.
Do you live in Russia? Iran? North Korea?
If not, then chances are you will not have to worry about Rosetta going away any time soon.
No, they never said they were required by law. They said they were require by accounting principles. The way the accounting was done was changed to prevent this issue going forward.
Lmao right I forgot that only MURICUH matters. My eyes rolled out of my skull at the sheer condescension
This makes absolutely no sense.
An M1 Mac in your estimation is a paperweight, but an Intel Mac, which Apple is going to quit manufacturing (and supporting) in the coming years, is more valuable?
Semantics.
They said they were required to do so by accounting principles established under U.S. federal law (the Sarbanes–Oxley Act).
Perhaps this exposing of some alleged International legal reasons was approved, but more to cause fear/outcry to scare slow Mac developers into recompiling the crufty old X86 apps into faster lower power native ARM/Apple Silicon code.
Intel Mac prices just went through the roof on eBAY.
I saw this coming and predicted it. Timmy the Bean Counter can't resist meddling. If he follows the PowerPC timeline, he'll totally screw up a good thing. 
I saw this coming and predicted it. Timmy the Bean Counter can't resist meddling. If he follows the PowerPC timeline, he'll totally screw up a good thing.
Again that’s not what’s happening