Rosetta May Be Removed From M1 Macs in Some Regions on macOS 11.3

[Marlor]

Lmao right I forgot that only MURICUH matters. My eyes rolled out of my skull at the sheer condescension

Take it up with the US Government if you feel countries using chemical and biological weapons shouldn’t face sanctions.

Companies have to comply or face devastating fines and export bans.

 

[cmaier]

Lmao right I forgot that only MURICUH matters. My eyes rolled out of my skull at the sheer condescension

It’s not condescension. It’s export controls. The government tells Apple it can’t send certain technology to certain places.

 

[cmaier]

Semantics.

They said they were required to do so by accounting principles established under U.S. federal law (the Sarbanes–Oxley Act).

And they were. Your implication is that they were making something up.

 

[alien3dx]

errr "hot dam".

 

[BaltimoreMediaBlog]

So, apparently most people commenting must think this is Apple's first rodeo. It isn't.

Has Apple been working toward ASi and the accompanying product transition (sw and hw) for years? Answer: YES
Has Apple ever transitioned its products from one CPU architecture to another? Answer: YES
Was that transition (PowerPC -> Intel) successful? Answer: YES
Has Apple every used an instruction set translator (Rosetta I) to accomplish a processor transition? Answer: YES
Has Apple done a huge patent deal with Intel recently to purchase their entire cellular business/patents? Answer: YES
Would Apple proceed with this transition without all patent licensing necessary to *ensure* its success? Answer: NO
Is Apple the largest tech company on the planet with an enormous amount of cash? Answer: YES

Be real. @cmaier has already given the most likely reason for Rosetta being restricted in some regions.

It's Timmy's 1st Rodeo on this type of transition. That is scary enough for me.

 

[hot-gril]

Lmao right I forgot that only MURICUH matters. My eyes rolled out of my skull at the sheer condescension

I mean, yeah, I live in the US and don't care if my Mac doesn't work in Iran, or any other country for that matter.

 

[Tagbert]

Could someone please share what the most prominent and popular Mac Apps are currently still using rosetta to function on M1 Macs?

Check out the status here

Is Apple Silicon ready?

The Complete Guide to MacOS Apps Optimized for Apple Silicon Macs and the M1/M2 Processors

isapplesiliconready.com

 

[Moka Akashiya]

It’s not condescension. It’s export controls. The government tells Apple it can’t send certain technology to certain places.

Hey, you, Tim Apple! Stop sharing Rosetta 2 to North Korea, they use x86 soft on M1 macs to bomb us.

 

[ThemePro]

The comments are eye-rolling with the tin foil hat conspiracy speculations but in the real-world, theres no evidence that any beta testers have been effected by this much less the nature of the statement in the code or who might be effected. Might be a placeholder for a distant future.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

This makes absolutely no sense.

An M1 Mac in your estimation is a paperweight, but an Intel Mac, which Apple is going to quit manufacturing (and supporting) in the coming years, is more valuable?

Without Rosetta yeah there’s barely anything that works without it at this point

 

[Suckfest 9001]

It’s not condescension. It’s export controls. The government tells Apple it can’t send certain technology to certain places.

Cool that’s not the point, the point is the product will lose a core functionality and that warrants action by the company.

 

[Tagbert]

Without Rosetta yeah there’s barely anything that works without it at this point

Not true. A large number of apps have already been recompiled for M1 and released

Is Apple Silicon ready?

The Complete Guide to MacOS Apps Optimized for Apple Silicon Macs and the M1/M2 Processors

isapplesiliconready.com

 

[GLS]

Without Rosetta yeah there’s barely anything that works without it at this point

"Barely".

Chuckles.

 

[ThatGuyInLa]

Could someone please share what the most prominent and popular Mac Apps are currently still using rosetta to function on M1 Macs?

There's a pile I use that aren't M1. A couple may never be. That's not Apple's fault of course. Handbrake, Adobe, Lightwave3D, Transmit, Unarchiver.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

"Barely".

Chuckles.

Laughs loudly

Alright lets just agree to disagree then

Sighs a breath of relief

 

[Suckfest 9001]

Not true. A large number of apps have already been recompiled for M1 and released

Is Apple Silicon ready?

The Complete Guide to MacOS Apps Optimized for Apple Silicon Macs and the M1/M2 Processors

isapplesiliconready.com

Not the ones I need, and basically nothing legacy

 

[cmaier]

Cool that’s not the point, the point is the product will lose a core functionality and that warrants action by the company.

It will lose a core functionality in a places that shouldn’t likely have Macs anyway.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

It will lose a core functionality in a places that shouldn’t likely have Macs anyway.

Lol didn't realize that made it ok to hit them with false advertising and then offer no support whatsoever. But let's agree to disagree here on our varying opinion of human worth regardless of coordinates on a map. You do you!

 

[EvilEvil]

Steve Jobs is doing barrel rolls in his grave.

 

[V.K.]

This is almost certainly due to export control.

Russia was just added to the export control list across a whole range of areas, so Apple has likely decided that Rosetta 2 technology violates these controls.

They’ve probably applied any geographic detection and ban to other designated regions too, even if they don’t presently sell Macs there.

I don't understand this. Why would any kind of export controls affect Rosetta?

 

[jdb8167]

There's a pile I use that aren't M1. A couple may never be. That's not Apple's fault of course. Handbrake, Adobe, Lightwave3D, Transmit, Unarchiver.

Handbrake already has an Apple Silicon port. It works great. I just used it yesterday.

Adobe has committed to supporting the M1 and has multiple applications from their Creative Suite already on Apple Silicon in beta.

The Unarchiver? Really, this is something that is important to you. Wow, Ok.

 

[cmaier]

Lol didn't realize that made it ok to hit them with false advertising and then offer no support whatsoever. But let's agree to disagree here on our varying opinion of human worth regardless of coordinates on a map. You do you!

You think they are advertising in Iran?

What are you even talking about?

 

[Hastings101]

Steve Jobs is doing barrel rolls in his grave.

Or commanding this from the grave considering how fast he killed the original Rosetta lol

 

[Marlor]

Lol didn't realize that made it ok to hit them with false advertising and then offer no support whatsoever. But let's agree to disagree here on our varying opinion of human worth regardless of coordinates on a map. You do you!

What should Apple do? Tell the US Government to go jump?

If your government violates international norms, you face consequences. That’s reality. And losing Rosetta support is the least of it.

 

[araadt]

Rosetta 1 was around from OSX Tiger (2005) to OSX Lion (2010). I'm sure they understand it's importance to a smooth transition.

Rosetta is a necessity for ensuring a smooth transition and to allow users the freedom to use apps as needed. (Especially power users that work in tech, arts, academics, etc)

Maybe this has to do with a maintenance issue; they don’t want to support this forever? Honestly, I’d pay an extra $3 a month for the privilege of continued Rosetta support!

You hear that Apple? Another subscription to make stubborn customers using Rosetta only apps (which will continue for at least 3 years, I imagine, if not forever) to have continued support, for payment. Power users, educators, and enterprises would pay; regular users wouldn’t be bothered because they will only use M chip approved apps. Problem solved!