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I believe we are freaking out a bit too much just because of a string in a beta version.
This could be a default string put in as a precaution for future use.
If there was a legal battle going on, I strongly believe this would have leaked.
It makes no sense otherwise to remove this function at that point.
 
I've also found it weird that Rosetta 2 was accepted by Intel.

If Windows on ARM never took of it is (in part) because they struggled with legal issues surrounding instruction set patent.
Maybe Apple has a deal with Intel, who knows ...
 
Not good Apple.

...I just had to Bork my Intel iMac in early December...😢 I really liked the M1 MBP initially, but software compatibility issues and meh battery life have made it disappointing. If Rosetta 2 is axed sooner rather than later that will be problematic for me.

Bummer.
Are you sure you didn’t accidentally buy an Intel model? My M1 MBP is awesome for battery life, even when I’m using software like Cinema 4D and After Effects
 
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Could just be some region code just in case they hit legal problems somewhere or could also be just something related to the Beta only and will be fixed in the final version. Maybe they are just sorting out some final legal issues in some small remote regions somewhere so say that in the beta until it is sorted. Either way, removing Rosetta would cripple so many people's workflow (including my own) so badly that I don't believe Apple would actually consider removing it. So I am not worried. I bet this never happens – at least until the vast majority of Mac software has moved across...
 
Can you give us a list of unsupported regions? Or a testimony of someone who is in an "unsupported region" and unable to use Rosetta because of that?
Just wait until it drops... this is probably currently being negotiated as an out-of-court IP settlement.
 
Not good Apple.

...I just had to Bork my Intel iMac in early December...😢 I really liked the M1 MBP initially, but software compatibility issues and meh battery life have made it disappointing. If Rosetta 2 is axed sooner rather than later that will be problematic for me.

Bummer.
So how is the iMac battery life then?
On a more serious note: I had multiple macbooks over the last 10 years, and I have no idea how the MBP M1 battery could be disappointing. I get the software compatibility issues at the beginning, though it is really looking good now. But, battery life is pretty much the least problem the M1 has.
 
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Just wait until it drops... this is probably currently being negotiated as an out-of-court IP settlement.

When it drops, then we can talk. Especially about a massive lawsuit agains Apple for fraudulent adversing.
 
Just wait until it drops... this is probably currently being negotiated as an out-of-court IP settlement.
So how do you think this is working out for instruction set emulators every X86 hypervisor needs to have? I don't think Intel will be the problem here. Apple could still get a license from AMD if Intel refuses. There is either something completely different happening, or this is just nothing
 
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So how do you think this is working out for instruction set emulators every X86 hypervisor needs to have? I don't think Intel will be the problem here. Apple could still get a license from AMD if Intel refuses. There is either something completely different happening, or this is just nothing

AFAIK one of the probable reasons why AVX is not supported by Rosetta is that Intel has included provisions in the AVX patents to patent the very method of executing such instruction. They explicitly state that "instruction" include things like static or dynamic translation (exactly what Apple uses). In my opinion, this is total BS, but I can see how Apple wouldn't be willing to step on a mine here. Earlier x86 instructions are not protected by such provision from what I've gathered, so Intel probably has less chances to mount a successful legal offense here.

Anyway, Intel has threatened to sue Microsoft and Qualcomm for x86 emulation almost four years ago, and they still haven't, which to me at least suggests that their case is not as clearcut as they have initially claimed.
 
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Could someone please share what the most prominent and popular Mac Apps are currently still using rosetta to function on M1 Macs?
Your statement makes little sense. Even if there’s only one application that one uses requiring Rosetta, the removal of Rosetta is a major issue.
 
So untrue. It is very easy to recompile for Apple silicon via Xcode as is proven by the large number of programs already done so.
You're either not a developer or not working on a large codebase that uses libraries from 3rd parties. I work as a developer in a company that has started work on an M1 native version of our software since the M1 DTK was available. Our DTK experienced a hardware failure after roughly 2 months (M1 macs weren't commercially available at the time so this halted our development until we were able to buy an M1 (we received a replacement DTK but only after we bought the real deal)) and then we had to wait for several companies that supply libraries to us to do changes on their end. We're only now able to start to try to put all the pieces together.
 
What should Apple do? Tell the US Government to go jump?

If your government violates international norms, you face consequences. That’s reality. And losing Rosetta support is the least of it.
Host outside the US? Like OpenBSD?

It's not that I'd support much of what is being done in North Korea or Iran, but the "international norms" are not just set in the US (only). Of course, countries may try to enforce their own standards. But that's about it.

H.
 
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Here is a thought, maybe it's just a glitch in the beta software.

But that would require people invoking a modicum of critical thinking in order to come to that conclusion.

Far easier to cast that aside and go with a "Oh noes...the sky is falling, the sky is falling!"

In a word, astonishing.
 
Apple did not go to the trouble of providing Rosetta2 in order to make the transition smoother and then remove it so quickly, there is more to this.

Stop it. Stat!

Your well-reasoned possibility has no place on this forum.
 
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This has nothing to do with Rosetta, be calm, move on.
 

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Honestly, this is a case (and there are many) where rumor sites are more harmful than helpful. Here, some guy claims to have found in a beta version a text string that may or may not have anything to do with the actual implementation of Rosetta, an application layer that Apple itself has advertised as critical to its entire new processor line, and now people believe their applications might stop working. I'd give this rumor about 0% chance of having any real impact on your life. Chill people.
 
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