Not just cheaper but better too.. My Surface Book 2 15 is pretty awesome and often I prefer ot over my MBP 16.
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Not just cheaper but better too.. My Surface Book 2 15 is pretty awesome and often I prefer ot over my MBP 16.
And again, I’m not going to tell any individual how important this is to them. With that said, do you think Apple as a whole is really focused on customers who find the most important feature on their Mac to be the ability to run Windows? (And see above, I used to use this stuff heavily.)
its been explained here that parallels send instructions directly to the CPU using Intel VTx. If Parallels is running on ARM, the CPU is not Intel. So, Parallels will have to write an emulation layer that translates AMD64 instructions into ARM instructions. That’s not just virtualization of AMD64 VMs, but it’s also emulation if the AMD64 architecture in software. This is not something Parallels or VMware has done in the past. Additionally, I don’t think VMware is going to be chasing the ARM Macs. Even with AMD64 (X86-64). VMware treated Fusion as a bastard child. They focus on Windows and Linux. macOS virtualization was a toy for them. So, we are left with Parallels because if they don’t pursue this, they will be out of business.
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Will ARM/Silicon be able to run as well as Intel in MBP's? If they went back to PowerPC, yeah. My experience with ARM is that they're crap. I like having my Windows VM, but I use it maybe 4 times a year... I could live without it. But I'll be damned if I'm giving it up for a POS ARM processor.
have to ask, why use a Mac then? working for a uni I see a lot of Macs and people run a Windows VM or Bootcamp, but for the life of me I cannot understand why? just swap your Mac for a windows machine surely.
Quite the contrary.
They're opening them up to run iOS/iPadOS apps (including many games) on them - which is the new mainstream. As for Boot Camp, that's been a "niche" for years. And Matlab seems to have a Mac version as well.
Because of hardware design. MBPs are lighter and thinner than your average PC laptop. All about style points
You do know that VMWare is already doing optimization for ARM. They announced it in a tweet. If they are doing it then so is paraells. Everyone needs to calm down
They will definitely make one. And that version will become a gold mine for Parallels, since all users who still would want to use Windows on ARM Mac would have to upgrade.
Besides, their subscription basically "promises" support of all upcoming OS versions.
If they don't release the version that support macOS Big Sur - I see many people cancelling subscription and demanding last stable version. For those who do not know how Parallels licensing model work: if you had v12 for example and went for a subscription, then if you decide to cancel now - you will only be able to use v12, which pretty much became obsolete, but not v15 or 14 for example.
Parallels will create a native app. It would not let VMWare (Fusion) eat all the pie.
Would not be surprised if this company charges more than the usual upgrade price, seeing how it is crucial for some users to continue to run Windows VMs on their upcoming shiny ARM Macs.
Expect a buggy Parallels release closer to the end of 2020.
USB4 will replace TB3, and it’s completely backward compatible with TB3 as well as non-proprietary.
Parallels should still work as it is already using macOS system VM framework now.
And it has a wonderful DirectX on Metal GPU driver that will work on a ARM Mac without much effort.
I guess you could just using windows on arm in VM and run legacy x86 software in that VM via Windows emulation.
It will be a lot slower but for some old app that is not a huge problem I guess.
I don’t think you understand how much trouble it would be to create something like this and it would most certainly perform a lot worse than what we are used to since it can’t be virtualization, it would have to be emulation. The market you are talking about is way too small. Only like 2% of all Mac users use bootcamp and while that doesn’t include VM users, it’s still a really small number. It’s not worth the trouble.
Did that tweet specifically say they were emulating x86 on ARM hosts?
VMWare and Parallels do virtualization, not emulation / translation. So yes, they may be building for ARM, but most likely they are building software that will let you run ARM virtual machines on ARM hosts, just like they enable x86 virtual machines on x86 hosts right now.
Parallels by the way HAS prototyped for ARM, in fact - it was demoed at WWDC by Apple. ARM Linux guest running on ARM Apple silicon.
But doing x86 VM's on ARM hosts is a completely different ballgame and much harder to do with acceptable performance.
FUD (Fear - Uncertainty - Doubt), is a strategy MS invented to bind users: It sucks today, but it will work tomorrow. And if you buy a Mac, you will burn in hell.
TRANSLATION: Without apps, RT is as dead as is Windows Phone. All R&D budget goes into Surface (billions!), so there is literally nothing left to develop decent RT tablets.
That's not useful if you need to run x86/x64 apps.
At the moment, Windows for ARM is pretty limiting and doesn't perform as well as the mature Windows x64 version. For example, Windows for ARM only supports x32, there is no x64 support.
That is changing as x64 patents start to expire.
And most legacy software is x86_32 anyway. If a software is already x64 then porting it to arm64 should be simple, just look at how fast Microsoft ported the huge Chromium browser to arm64.
"First Apple's came for the Mac users that wanted upgradability, and I did nothing, because I just throw all my money at Apple whenever they tell me it's time. Then Apple came for the Mac users that wanted systems that cooled themselves properly, and I did nothing, because all I needed was for twitter to twit. Then Apple came for the users that wanted good, consistent UIs with highly-visible elements, but I did nothing because I think it's funny that my parent's can't use their Mac anymore when they always could before. Then Apple came for the SOHO, enterprise and EDU market users who valued their end-to-end single-vendor nearly-perfect solutions, but I did nothing because who needs those "niche" markets anyway? Then Apple came for the Mac Power users and enthusiast who expected Apple to continue to support the fantastic hardware they had made, rather than needlessly obsolete those systems, and I did nothing because I just throw all my money at Apple whenever they tell me it's time. Then Apple came for all the Mac users who loved the Mac, but were only able to use and own one because it had full Windows compatibility, but I did nothing because, as I said, all I needed was for twitter to twit. Then Apple came for the users the needed keyboards that actually worked... then... then... then... Then Apple finally came for twitter, and suddenly I gave a ****, but by then it was too late, because by then I was one of the last Mac users in the world, and nobody cared."
I could be paraphrasing there...
I could be paraphrasing there...
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Did they say anything about ARM? Or did they say something about Big Sur, which will run on Intel?
Because some people do more than using Twitter and Facebook. And some professional applications were never ported to macOS.
Not anymore. Dells' new line of XPS laptops are every bit as thin and light as MBP. Lenovo has some great machines as well.
I tried Windows 10 again last week .... on bootcamp. It's got some pretty decent stuff now (WSL2 is really, really cool) but parts of it are just plain horrible still. I removed it a day later.
Its no exaggeration to say that at modern Microsoft conferences half the staff use Macs. The amount of times I have seen staff using Visual Studio Code with docker on a Mac is amazing.
All dev is going to the cloud. It's just inevitable. Apple know this too. A lot of devs in a few years time will simply be running VM's in the cloud to do the dev work.
I reckon its going to be easy to make money without much effort in the stock market if you can wait and hang on for 15 years. You can't go wrong investing in MS, Google and Alphabet. Basically the vast majority of businesses will be running their software in the cloud at some point pretty soon.