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Very impressive. About the only limitation I saw (and probably the reason it appears a little smaller than the old cheese grater) is it doesn't have support / space for Hard Drives (4TB in SSD's is the largest internal configurable option it looks like - gotta guess that would be an eye watering price).

I do like that they obviously embraced the cheese grater nickname of the old towers.

I'm with you ElectriPotato, if this started at $3k or $4k I'd be able to lift it. Will make my last version of the original cheese grater last a a year or two more then probably land in an iMac - which I've waited to avoid.

If you check the accessories list on bottom of the Mac Pro page.. There’s a 32TB MPX card option for storage.
 
For those complaining about storage options, the devil is in the details (per the Mac Pro - Technical Specifications page as an available option):
  • Promise Pegasus R4i 32TB RAID MPX Module Kit
Sounds like plenty of internal storage to me. If that is not sufficient, they gave people plenty of PCI Express slots to expand the storage on their own terms.
 
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This Mac Pro does exactly as intended, it provides an excellent workstation option for professionals while keeping enthusiasts away. This is inline with their closed echo system philosophy.
 
The new Mac Pro has enough power now for internet surfing, reading webpages and watching UHD videos! I might pick one of these Mac Pro combos when I want to buy something crazy and insane!
 
I can’t wait to set this up for a rich client that must have the very best for their web browsing.

I gonna buy it 4 gaming and maybe some day learn about 3d studio dude that’s the future but gaming it’s the present so i need thiz cheese thing with wheels
 
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Multiphysics, unstructured-mesh, finite element simulation software. Doing that with GPUs is still mostly research at this point (although, depending on the physics, we can sometimes use GPUs a bit for acceleration).

This isn’t our “server farm” though: just our personal workstations. We currently have two clusters: 20k cores in one and 35k cores in the other (both Intel based for now). This fall we’re buying a 100k+ core cluster

Our software can scale to use all 100k of those cores...

We choose to use OSX for our workstations simply because it’s the nicest Unix-based OS out there. It’s great to be able to use Word and Emacs side-by-side :)

Also: Linux on laptops still sucks... so it’s great to be able to have the same environment on our workstations and laptops by using Mac Pros and MacBooks. For the foreseeable future we’ll now do Linux workstations... but we’ll stick with Macbooks for a long time yet...
Since these are workstations, I totally agree macOS is preferable for many varying reasons. Even the terminal emulator and the copy-paste. I've relegated my workplace-supplied desktop to SSH-accessible tasks only and use my laptop as a head for it.
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Facebook browsing of course requires 28 cores ;)
Facebook browsing is actually egregiously CPU heavy. Ofc any small laptop can handle it, but it's still way slower than it should be.
 
This new Mac Pro seems to be replacing more the server needs than the Mac Pro users.
Apple should have done a smaller Mac Pro version Around $3600 with less RAM and 1 eGPU support.

Mac Pro users that spent $2400.00 will be left in limbo due to the high end obscene pricing.

A fully loaded Mac Pro with the monitor, estimate (according to 9to5) costs around $50.000.
Really??

I rather buy a Tesla.
 
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some perspective for the people are complaining about the price

https://www.boxx.com/systems/workstations/s-class

It's not really possible to compare because there is no set value to MacOS. If we got two identical computers how much more is the MacOS worth. Is it a flat value like 200$ or a percentage like 5% since we can't come up with a cake for the one thing that makes those computers different it is impossible to really compare
 
Apple should really sell a version of the Mac Pro with high-end consumer chips. The Xeon/ECC premium puts these machines out of reach for many people who would instantly buy one for $3500-4000.
It would be a completely different computer without the Xeon CPUs. Intel i5 and i7 seem very limited in PCIe lanes (16) and 128 GB RAM (looking at 8700K, 9600K, and 9700K specs). A mid-range AMD Threadripper Mac Pro would be much more interesting, wtih 64 PCIe lanes and 2 TB RAM but a possible loss of Thunderbolt connectivity. Apple is probably contractually limited in options.
 
Wow. I used to think folks on Mac forums understood technology. Guess I'm mistaken. Some of you do, but holy cow, the rest of you?

Do you know what a workstation is? Do you know the difference between Xeon and Core CPUs? Do you even know what ECC RAM is?

Apple has built a kick-ass workstation here, at an incredible price (it's about damn time). This is NOT an iMac Pro sans display. It's in a completely different category. This Mac finally competes with the likes of HP and Dell workstations, and bests them in many ways (i.e. gobs of Thunderbolt ports, 10Gb ethernet, "Afterburner" accelerator card option, MPX module options, etc.).

Run on over to hp.com, and custom configure yourself an HP Z4 (single socket Xeon CPU box) with identical specs to Apple's entry level config (or as close an equivalent as possible) and then ask yourself if you have any clue how much workstations cost!

I did that very thing... Matched up each component to exact or near exact items in new Mac Pro. The result? HP Z4 = aprox $7200.00.

Time to educate yourselves.

THe problem is that Apple made a mistake of confusing the Mac Pro with the workstation/server customers.
Apple used to have the Mac Pro and the servers.

There are many customers that needed maybe a lower version of the just released Mac Pro (Less RAM maybe 1egpu). The old Mac Pro users do NOT need neither want a workstation level machine.

They just wanted an upgraded version of the old Mac Pro, that is user upgradeable. Something what the old Mac Pro used to be, a middle of the pack in between the server and the iMac.

Write now, there is nothing. YOu have the Mac Mini and iMac in one side and then the new Mac Pro on the other. A complete overkill for many users.
 
Heh, I paid around $9K for my iMac Pro, and even I'm going "WTF?"

The HP Z4 Workstation has been used for comparison, which seems fair to me. Getting close to the base configuration of the new Mac Pro is about the same price. I came out to $5700. Others came out to the low $6000 range. As much as I miss having a mid-range offering in that form factor, I can't fault Apple for pricing it as the workstation class hardware that it is. The Mac Pro is superior to the Z4 in several ways (beefier power supply, MPX modules, more accessible chassis).

But, I'll have to admire this excellent hardware from afar. I'll probably play with the BTO options when it's released just for the thrill (terror) of seeing large numbers.
 
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Keeping the stand separate makes sense. No need to include engineering works of art in a box if they’ll never be used. It’s wasteful, seeing as many professionals mount their displays, but this option would be sweet.

Charging for the stand makes sense (maybe not $1k). The mechanism likely took forever for R&D. The finish looks impeccable, I bet it feels amazing, and I’m sure it’s a privilege to look at. Apple still knows how to make a, “perfect,” product.

Well beyond my needs, but what a machine. This is a 7-10 year chassis.

I’m unimpressed with the entry price. I was expecting a base Pro package around $5-6000k with a monitor, such as the previous-gen paired with LG’s 5k monitor.

With the ultra-high-end level this, “Pro,” machine is at, I think the next logical step would be to release a, “Mac.” Hahaha, the cycle never stops.

Gorgeous setup. *drools*
 
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Those black cheese graders are at least $1500 less than the new MacPro. Is the Apexx S4 comparable to an entry level Mac Pro?

Do those Boxx computers run macOS? There's no way I'd let saving $1,500 for a computer that would last me 4+ years cause me to abandon macOS and Apple's ecosystem. In the larger scheme of things, that $1,500 is mice nuts.
 
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I never understood this fascination with comparing look alike stuff.
Literally, everything that has ever been designed and not designed you could easily compare it to other stuff that does already exist. Find me anything in this world and I would be able to find something else that looks just like it. What's the point?
Luckily that machine is aimed at people who are more focused inside and on what it does, rather than what it looks like.
 
What a STUPID product. Apple is BLEEDING actual prosumers, and working pro marketshare. This is a product for people who have much more money and will be stuff they don't actually need. Anyone who is a pro and is busy MAKING money, will not WASTE their hard earned money on such an overpriced product.

Apple needs to focus on the MIDDLE market, where the real pros live, where the small pro photographers, music producers, video editors, movie makers are, not making their product like be either expensive but low powered laptops for lawyers, or $10,000 monsters for the guys who have their own personal jets, to purchase one of these just to surf the web.

Once again, Apple is a dead company walking and the Mac world is on it's death bed because Apple can't produce a decent product line. They should have a mini-tower by now for the pro-sumer market but they are total idiots.

Are you a pro who is busy MAKING money?
 
Should I buy a Mac Pro or put a downpayment for a house...?

No one but the studios and rich people are going to buy these.
 
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You guys whining about price are not the audience. This is for super professionals who value reference quality displays and insane workflows.

This isn’t for browsing Instagram and Facebook. Price a real work machine and you’ll see this isn’t out of the ballpark.

One of my work machines is an HP workstation and retailed for $8,500, no screen.

Bingo! Those complaining the loudest are romanticizing their projections of what they believe high-performance computing is about.
 
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Do those Boxx computers run macOS? There's no way I'd let saving $1,500 for a computer that would last me 4+ years cause me to abandon macOS and Apple's ecosystem. In the larger scheme of things, that $1,500 is mice nuts.

I wouldn't either, but technically you're not paying for the OS. I was a little confused as to the original poster's intent.
 
I don’t think Apple dropped the ball on this new Mac Pro, I think they dropped the ball on the mid range. They need a mid range desktop tower that has expansion capabilities beyond thunderbolt 3. A mid tower with BTO options of i5, i7 and i9 and just a couple PCI slots starting at $1599 or even $1999 would be perfect. They have done it in the past with the B&W PowerMac G3.

+1. Of course, they could announce such a thing after the Mac Pro is released and on the market for a while. They would also need a "mid-range" 5K monitor that slots in as the true TB Monitor replacement at $1500+.
 
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If available in SpaceGrey it would look professional and the lattice design would compliment it, rather than look like a grater.

I would have to agree. A little surprised since space gray is supposedly their pro look now.
 
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