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It’s great that Apple has reentered the workstation market with an offering suitable for high-end clients and workflows. Nobody can suggest Apple doesn’t offer a serious professional desktop now, and it happens to look beautiful too (LOVE the steel handles, the ones on the old cheese grater were sharp!). There are those pros who are price-sensitive and those who aren’t: who can and will pay anything for the best equipment; and this is clearly geared towards the latter. But...

This still leaves a niche for that elusive mid-range headless Mac for the so-called “prosumer” who doesn’t need or can’t afford workstation-class hardware with 8 PCI slots, but wants a strongly performing system with the option of a high-end (upgradable) graphics card using consumer-grade components. Think the typical enthusiast gamer PC. You can build awesome little systems with an RTX 2080 or similar using the micro-ATX form factor.

Apple’s only headless solution for the prosumer/gamer niche is the Mac Mini with an eGPU, but this is hardly an attractive or elegant solution. Especially when you start adding external storage and other peripherals!

The funny thing is, the Trash Can Mac looked a lot like a mid-range headless Mac but its problems were it used specialised and non-standard workstation hardware and was priced accordingly, was ultimately poorly upgradable, yet was still ridiculously thermally constrained so as to not even be able to handle a decently-sized PSU and thermal output. In other words, apart from its size it was pretty much the worst of all worlds.

I would LOVE to see a baby version of this new tower design with fewer PCI slots, a smaller PSU (say 800 W) and consumer-grade processor, RAM and graphics options using standard and swappable form-factors! The case and OS X compatibility would easily be worth a premium over similarly spec’d PCs. But until then, I think PC remains the only option.

I commend Apple on making a truly high-end system, and if I was rich I’d love to have both it and the XDR screen, but I think the gamer/amateur enthusiast market is huge and it’s a mistake to ignore it.
 
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Price and cheese-grater design aside, I'm very happy that Apple has finally returned to making true professional grade machines. The only problem I have is that, again, Apple seems to be defining pro as content creation, ie video editing and graphic design. What about areas of professional work? Scientific or programming work that is better suited to the Tensor or CUDA cores offered by Nvidia? Come on Apple, let Nvidia make drivers for macOS again. You don't have to work with Nvidia, you don't have to sell their products, you don't even have to talk about it; just get out of the way and let it happen.
 
I am curious why the base model Mac Pro is $1,000 more than the base model iMac Pro which has also has an 8-core Xeon and 32GB of RAM but the base model iMac Pro has 4x as much SSD space, a much more powerful GPU, and a 5k display to boot. I get that you are paying for expandibility but the initial price seems high or else the iMac Pro now looks like a screaming good deal.

Maybe a fully specced iMac would be even a better option since it outperforms the base iMac Pro in certain tasks, but it also doesn't have 10Gb Ethernet, a better camera, proably some other stuff I'm forgetting oh and it isn't Space Gray since so many people loved that. So hmm, tough choice.
 
because real men do work on their computer..lol games as you said are for little boys
Real work? Like browsing MacRumors? Just kidding, everyone needs a break sometimes. The numbers do drop after 30, life happens. Even so, they are missing out on a big market. Probably 2 interns could design a simple Mac for gaming. Apple 1 was done with just 2 people.
 
Once again, an outrageous price for a “premium” product. Not sure why the frickin’ display needs to be so damn expensive. I’m sure it’ll be nice to look at in the apple store.

This is not a premium product, this is a professional workstation. This machine isn’t for checking Facebook or twitter feeds. If this were the only Mac that Apple sold I would be singing a different tune but Apple has plenty of options at different price points. The same goes for the display, yes the stand is a little absurd but it’s not made to hook up to a Mac mini.
 
Real work? Like browsing MacRumors? Just kidding, everyone needs a break sometimes. The numbers do drop after 30, life happens. Even so, they are missing out on a big market. Probably 2 interns could design a simple Mac for gaming. Apple 1 was done with just 2 people.
Sorry if I hit a sensitive core here; I been working with computers since I was 15, I from the generation that actually spend time in the real world, when I’m done working I go off the grid…computer gaming never appeal to me…I been bias I know.
 
Who the hell uses the AMD chipset? No one, that's who. ALL the big boys are using GPUs powered by Nvidia. This will be useless for 3D work.
I don't know enough about that industry, but I'm just guessing that might change after this. This computer is in it for the long haul.
 
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I am curious why the base model Mac Pro is $1,000 more than the base model iMac Pro which has also has an 8-core Xeon and 32GB of RAM but the base model iMac Pro has 4x as much SSD space, a much more powerful GPU, and a 5k display to boot. I get that you are paying for expandibility but the initial price seems high or else the iMac Pro now looks like a screaming good deal.

I definitely don't feel dumb grabbing the base iMac Pro @ $3999 via Microcenter vs. waiting for this Mac Pro. I am not the target market for this insane computer... I'm just an enthusiast (not a "pro").

By the time I've outgrown the capabilities of the base iMac Pro, there will be plenty of new tech/display worth buying as a 'new' device, instead of upgrading my iMac Pro.
 
2 years ago (after years of Apple neglecting the expandable Mac market) I bought a machine with similar specs to this new base model 2019 Mac Pro.

8 core processor? Check -- AMD Ryzen 1700x with 8 cores/16 threads
32 GB of DDR4-2666? Check
1 TB of SSD storage (actually more than this Mac Pro starts with). Check
nVidia GTX-1060 graphics with 6 GB VRAM. Check
High quality tower case with easy motherboard access and room for expansion? Check
Runs virtually silent even with 3 fans inside the case (one of them being mounted onto the CPU to keep it cool without a 9" tall 15" long heatsink? Check

And for this bucket of magnificence I paid around $1,300. Granted I needed to snap the pieces together myself, but that's really not so difficult and didn't take more than two hours of my time. Is two hours of my time worth an extra $3,700? Nope. I'm all good, thanks.

Too bad I needed to give us MacOS to do this. I really love MacOS. I really wish Apple gave a damn about users who want an expandable headless Mac who cannot justify a 2nd mortgage on their home just for the entry model.
 
$5,999 with only 256GB of SSD storage?

Greedy, greedy company.

Unashamedly greedy.
Yeah, that is pretty much the business model and where they make the most from upgrading on the memory storage. Don’t forget about the cost for the stand too.
 
Money money money, I actually thought Apple might make an affordable scalable Mac Pro, but with UK prices being almost identical Dollar to Pounds it’s going to be an insanely high price :( as for the display, what a joke..lol the crowds reaction when they quickly showed the $999 price just for the stand said it all. I bet even the option wheels are expensive!

I also wondered if Apple had been waiting and prepping for a switch to AMD processors which if the rumours are true look to be brining huge multithreading multi core CPU’s. Not a Xeon but at 7nm it’s years ahead of Intel and looks to be half the price.

I suppose I dreamed to much..seriously disappointing to see an out of touch Mac Pro after waiting all this time..
 
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