It wouldn't seem this would be correct. This is a Core/Xeon comparison, and it looks like Intel is just charging quite a bit more for the Xeon without a clear reason.
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Roundup: First-Look Impressions of the New Mac Pro
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It wouldn't seem this would be correct. This is a Core/Xeon comparison, and it looks like Intel is just charging quite a bit more for the Xeon without a clear reason.
You are right, but it is missing the point. There are a TON of people that were immediately priced out of this Mac Pro. I’m an audio guy, so my video needs are considerably less than FCP users. I make my living on my music, albeit a meager one, but it is how I survive. If others can justify $6k for 32gb ram and a 256gb SSD, more power to ‘em (literally).
A $4k version of this with a few downgraded specs would have sold a bunch of machines. A bunch of us Logic Pro users were waiting for this tower to be released, but unfortunately I won’t be in that group of buyers. I’d rather find a used iMac Pro, get the 1TB SSD and screen without plunking more money down.
I think the design is fine, because honestly could care less what it looks like. It would sit under my desk anyway, if I were the level of professional that could buy this. I’m certainly happy for those who can.
I really hope they sell a lot of these. As far as I can see, it’s perfect for large photo editing, image creation, video editing, rendering, etc... The one thing I don’t see Apple really going for are the 3D gaming industry workstations which normally use Nvidia. Other than that, this machine ticks boxes for all the other work that can be thrown at it. The only thing I see this workstation missing is a drive array slot. If they only built a RAID caddy system that can just be slapped into these workstations and use the same power supply, that would be awesome. Thunderbolt III is great but it’s another piece of equipment you have to carry and needs it’s own power supply.
I was involved in an effort to test grid computing. Are you saying this "expandable" MacPro can only accept one CPU motherboard for $6k? For 2x the cost of the stand I think a third party will come up with a 4 CPU case.
Worse yet, in 5 years when we're wondering when the next Mac Pro is coming out, it will still be $11K.
AN iMac Pro gives you a xeon 8-core, 32 gigs of RAM, a fast gpu and 1TB SSD and a 5k display for $5k.
The new Mac Pro gives you LESS and WITHOUT the display for $5999...
Apple's gone insane and arrogant. What a disappointment for the pro users
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The new Mac Pro gives you LESS and WITHOUT the display for $5999...
Apple's gone insane and arrogant. What a disappointment for the pro users
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So are those base prices BEFORE Trump's tariffs? I assume these are all being made and assembled in someplace other than Texas (you know, the only "South" America that Trump recognizes).
I actually really like that stand. It reminds me of the "lampshade" iMac G4.
No need to apologize, too many soft feelings. Normally, I can defend Apple, but when I say the monitor and the ridiculous arm for $1k, I lost my mind. I don’t k ow how anyone can defend the price with a straight face.
6K for a base level machine that a year old laptop with built in screen iMac can run rings around? 8-10K for a properly kitted machine is more like what it was SUPPOSED to be. I can kinda, sorta buy that, although I'm pretty sure it puts them way more expensive similar "high-end workstations." BUT, wait a minute... a machine that CAN NOT DO CUDA? Huh? How can ANY pro in their right minds shut themselves off from all the software that makes use of CUDA? And all because they had some pissing match years ago... like a couple of 9 year olds and while nVidia grew up, the wormy fruit is sticking to their 9 year old, wha-wha, pissy ideas??
So I agree with what you're saying. My 2019 15 inch chugs a bit when pushing a 27 inch Dell 4 and the LG Ultra-fine 4K at the same time. I have not hooked it up to my LG UltraFine 5K, but will try that next.
Anway, I could have sworn she said the 13 inch MBP would run that beast over TB3. I will have to go back and re-watch, but I could have sworn she said it. I think a loaded 2017 iMac will drive it.
As for the price, buying it, etc. there was an outside chance I would have bought it, even at that price. I just can't justify another $1,000.00 for the stand on top and the monitor would not be in a position to be mounted.
... ah but the price range of previous Mac Pro is way outside the price range for me.
Although, 1.5 TB of Ram and 28 Cores of Xeon power.... I guess there's no way that could be cheap!
ALL the components you listed are cheaper and less powerful that the MP components. The CPU cost twice as yours. Your computer memory isn’t ECC, that’s a lot more expensive. And so on and so on. Everyone the knows the first thing about computers knows that “8 core”, “1TB” are totally meaningless qualification by themselves.
If these are well received, you might get your wish in a few years. An entry level version of this design would create two issues. First, it would be competing with their own iMac Pro. Second, it might have required them to make compromises in how they wanted to design this launch edition and I'm sure they wanted to absolutely nail it for the upper upper end market that this is designed for.
Perhaps in a few years, the iMac Pro is quietly phased out and replaced with a "mini-Mac Pro."
Considering that some users still employ HDDs, I would not want mine to be on wheels where it could easily be moved and suddenly stopped as it runs into something.
