Lolz. You sure about that brah? Lucky they left the space bar.
You do know the esc key is still there? If you hold down the fm key you get all the function and esc keys back.
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Roundup: Hands-On With Touch Bar on New MacBook Pros
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Lolz. You sure about that brah? Lucky they left the space bar.
You do know the esc key is still there? If you hold down the fm key you get all the function and esc keys back.
That's depressing - so far the keyboard is the ONLY part of my rMB that hasn't failed (screen, hinge and battery all failed within a year. Even the geniuses looked embarrassed when I took it in last time).
I was looking to replace the rMB next year with something with a bit more grunt, but the new machines are completely out of my price range.
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Agreed.
I'm purchasing one that's specced out to ~$3000. Even at that price it's only costing my company 1/100th of my total burden rate for a year. I'll likely use it for 3-4 years (like I have my last MBP).... so let's say 1/300th of my burden rate for the next three years.
At that rate the new machine only needs to "save" me 20 hours _total_ over the next 3 years to pay for itself.
A few thousand dollars every 3 years is absolutely nothing to anyone using these machines for actual professional work.
If you're just using this machine for iPhoto and writing Facebook posts at home you're doing it wrong. That's what the Macbook (or even iPad Pro) is for...
I am gutted that there was no new imac or macpro announced or even a sneak peek, I was really hoping before the event started that with the "hello again" theme, the imac was going to be pulled out of the hat with a one more thing, but i think the apple i used to know and love is changing where they rather you buy your products online than queue for days in excitement at a store, focus on how good their pictures and emojis are than what their legacy pro users and content creators crave new powerful macs. Tim cook is lucky samsung have had their troubles because the iPhone seems to be the one product where hes hedged all his bets, and to be fair that was Steves baby.
"We waited two years!" Who exactly do you think you are? Haha. If you want to complain about how much it costs, I'm not going to get into that with you because everyone's financial situation is different. I paid $2600 for the 2012 rMBR I'm arguing with you on right now, and it's still a beast. I got every pennies worth of usage out of that $2600 because I use this for work and personal and about 10-12 hours a day between the two.
Fact is a customizable touch bar *IS* exciting if you do more than just browse the web and post bitchy comments on MacRumors. I will get a TON of usage out of it just based on what you can do with it out of the box in two weeks, but I also have the foresight to see what is possible with it down the line with OS updates and new applications hooking into it.
I disagree. I type 125 words per minute but i still have to look at the keyboard when i want to hit 'fn + f2' - who the hell has muscle memory for function keys? Saying that you won't be able to train yourself to do common tasks on the touchbar without looking is a lack of foresight on your part (or you just dont think highly of yourself)
Hey, they have to save something for a flagship feature for the next update in 2018.
You're missing the context, it's based off my first post which addresses the fact that they moved over the esc key for the sake of visual balance when they didn't have to.
Wait, I use the ESC key every every day, every keyboard session. Don't like the menu, hit ESC!
Wait, I use the Tilde every day either in the terminal or "Go to folder"
no mac pro, i guess they are trying to brake their own guiness record from over 1,000 all the way up to 2,000 days. man i can't wait for tim to go. bring somebody better, all tim care is about the money, where are the products, is all iPhones, iPads, watches but what about the Mac Pro, knock knock, hello Tim, Desktop. they are not dead
Ha, I like the bar, I was excited for it, but this pricing is just crazy and the spec doesn't feel it justifies this. I often work at home in the evening with the Magsafe plugged in on my lap, I'd get no work done if I was watching the battery clock. So not angry just very disappointed to have had a pro machine lose key items, with out memory bumps to cover.
Who am I? None of your business and irrelevant. You spewed nothing but noncense. Your facts mean absolutely nothing without any data to back them up with which of course does not exist. I respect your opinion, but it is not fact.
LOL good one
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Oh Joy, yet another adapter.
What is all this "true pro user" mania?
125 words per minute but you can't remember a few shortcuts? Stop shilling.
Hahah. I just meant who do you think you are that you 'deserve' whatever it is you think you deserved by 'waiting' 2 years (your choice, by the way. i've waited 4)
Just that people complain about the price and functionality of things when they probably don't need them. Of course it makes no sense for my father to spend $2500+ on a laptop since all he does is look at eBay. But people that actually are "pro" (i.e power, hardcore, whatever) users can see the value in the cost, as well as the functionality of something like a customizable toolbar. Sure, it's not for everyone. But nothing is, or ever will be.
It's not about 'remembering shortcuts.' It's about need, and muscle memory. I don't need to hit the fn + __ very often so I haven't innately learned to use those keys without looking. With the touch bar, not only is it less "keystrokes" for lack of a better term (i.e just hitting the brightness on the touch id, instead of fn+f1) but you will also innately learn how to use the touchbar without looking over time, even if it's not haptic. That's just human nature. This isn't something that has existed yet, so it's sort of ridiculous to dismiss it as being worthless until you get some time using it.
You are wrong on so many levels. Having a touch screen is indeed much faster many times than using the trackpad and keyboard. Of course, the majority of the time keyboard and trackpad is all that is used. However there are use cases where the touchscreen enhances productivity. It could *NEVER* reduce productivity because it's use is never a requirement. For a desktop, I don't use it at all - except with this new surface studio. I think it will get used quite a bit with photo editing and creative tasks. With certainty, a touchscreen is more useful to me than a $400 touch bar. Basically apple is just being stubborn and put a bar there because they realize touch is useful and people are becoming accustomed to it. It's their way of saving face.
Well i guess then i believe i am an apple customer who expected more. Never said i deserved more. My point was that after a long wait I was dissapointed with what was released today. If a touch bar excites you, thats great. Does nothing for me nor is it a must have feature that compells me to upgrade.
