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Roundup of OS X Mountain Lion Reviews: 'Faster and Smoother', 'Incremental', 'Bargain at Twice the Price'

moabal said:
I mean the Gizmodo people are right. Apple is out of ideas. Take a look at any real fundamental differences between Leopard and Mountain Lion. The only difference is black/white UI, speed improvements, and an attempt to synergize Mac OSX and iOS. With mountian lion, they have added all the possible iOS things in Mac OSX. Besides more security and speed improvements, they are out of ideas.

Furthermore, the difference in iOS 5 to iOS 6 further show this. They have no ideas that they are forced to make the UI (especially in phone) look bad. Also, besides Passbook, there is nothing groundbreaking.

Same with Microsoft as well. There was nothing they could do to improve Windows 7 so they had to start from scratch. I personally like Windows 7 type of productivity better. But if they stuck that route, like Apple they would have no ideas. No point of fixing something that aint broke.

The fact is it just seems there is a technological road block.
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So are we going to demand a totally new OS every couple of years in the name of "new ideas"???
 
Sad to say it, but I agree with gizmodo about the abuse of skeumorphic user interface elements :(
 
iconboyips said:
Actually I think it a perfectly reasonable question to ask a manufacturer what their products are compatible with.

If a camera lens manufacturer made lenses and did not know which cameras their lenses were compatible with what would you think?
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Although the application in question is a popular one, I hardly think Apple can know how well an updated operating system can run every application in existence for Lion (which, I gather, is a lot). To think otherwise is foolhardly and irrational.
 
peejack said:
Don't be so ridiculous.
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Lion wasn't usable until 10.7.3 and Snow Leopard wasn't usable intil 10.6.8.

Apple rushed both OS's and don't tell me I am full of it etc. As I pointed out before it took 3 OS revisions before something simple like AD worked and with 10.6 it took 8 revisions to get it to finally work good. 10.6.8 is Apple's best OS in a long time but that doesn't take away the fact that it took 8 major revisions to get it to work.
 
I think on the Mac, Apple Should at least wait maybe 2 years at least between OS X upgrades. I'm not even getting tired of the old software and I feel like it a rush, year after year.


Don't get me wrong I like ML, but slow it down a little please.
 
KPOM said:
Gizmodo has been anti-Apple ever since the company sued them and banned them from media events (after Gizmodo refused to return a stolen iPhone 4 prototype). Apple could create a fountain of youth and Gizmodo would complain that it only adds 10 years to your life instead of 20.
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They reported on that anti-android article quite recently actually.
 
Chrisg2014 said:
I think on the Mac, Apple Should at least wait maybe 2 years at least between OS X upgrades. I'm not even getting tired of the old software and I feel like it a rush, year after year.


Don't get me wrong I like ML, but slow it down a little please.
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ML isn't a complete overhaul, just a fine-tuning with some really cool new features. I think they are doing it really right at Apple.
 
Mattie Num Nums said:
Lion was extremely flawed. Snow Leopard was Vista 1 and Lion was Vista 2. Mountain Lion is what it should have been in the first place.
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Are you even remotely serious??? Vista 1 and 2 you got to be kidding. Have you actually tried to use Vista?

Snow Leopard and Lion were/are waaaay too functional to slap them with that kinda low class OS comparison.

How would you explain your connection?
 
nikhsub1 said:
Exactly. I oversee 500 workstations (and 50 servers) and the end users using them. I am going to slit my wrists once I have to move them to Windows 8 - it's a pretty confusing interface.
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Why don't you stick to 7 then, unless there's something wrong with it?
 
cfs said:
I'm noticing that there are some new unctions, such as messages and updates, that need one to have an Apple ID. My family has to iPads that are connected to one family iMac. We use the same iTunes ID but different iMessage ID's. Am I accurate in thinking that on a shared computer only one user there will be able able to take advantage of all it has to offer?

Thanks,

CFS
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Yes, as MacFan23 said, I would assume they would each have to have a separate user account (which can be set up via System Preferences). So after each person is done using the iMac, they would log out (or switch users) and then the next person would log in under their account. That way, you could still have them sharing the same iTunes ID while them each having separate Messages and Notifications.

The only downside would be music management. Unless something has changed, sharing music between different user accounts can be tricky. Apple's support site and other places should have instructions on how to share Libraries if you have a lot of music from a variety of places. But if most or all of your purchases have been done through the iTunes Store and been done recently, and/or you use iTunes Match or iTunes in the Cloud, then you might be able to get by with redownloading them or transferring the few songs that aren't from iTunes as opposed to sharing Libraries between users.
 
Curious

jasonxneo said:
I beg to differ :eek:
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What do you think is a better OS then? Curious...

I use Lion, Win 7, and ubuntu 12.04 (... I used them all within 24 hrs :))

Windows 7 is def decent but I think windows really needs to be bold and drop all the legacy stuff especially the Registry scheme and shared DLLs before it becomes better. Also, I hate developer community in Windows... They always put up nagging notifications everywhere...

I mainly use ubuntu for research so I have not much to say about it... Though it seems to use more CPU than I expected. Prob running it on bootcamp has something to do with it...
 
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Matti said:
Looks like Im still gonna stay with my ancient 10.6 install.

Lion didn't add anything I wanted. Read the Gizmodo review and it looks like the iOSification continues. Ill update once they add something relevant for proper desktop computer use on my iMac
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You know, I find this nonsense about the supposed "IOSification" of OS X to be really tiring and annoying. There are a few features borrowed from IOS that are easily turned off or ignored, period. Other than that, it's good old OS X, but better.
 
Mattie Num Nums said:
Lion was extremely flawed. Snow Leopard was Vista 1 and Lion was Vista 2. Mountain Lion is what it should have been in the first place.
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Snow Leopard is a great operating system (and only got better with revisions), comparing it to Vista is far off base (Vista never got good - I used it for 2 years before finally reverting to XP; Windows 7 is quite a good OS though). Lion even with its faults is more like Windows 7 than Vista. Lion was the first version of OS X that I've had problems with; I still like it a lot but it was also the first OS X upgrade that slowed down an existing computer.

Even in frustrating times I always enjoy using OS X but the same cannot be said for Windows; I never enjoy using Windows (I don't dislike it, it's just not a pleasure to use like OS X is).
 
Mac21ND said:
Disagree with Gizmodo. Windows 8 is a nice idea, but man it's going to confuse the living heck out of lots of casual Windows users. (Like the secretaries in my office. I feel bad for our IT department.)
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if your IT dept. is immediately upgrading to Windows 8, then they deserve the headache.
 
ghostface147 said:
Like what? What would you add?
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That's the point though. WE don't know. Apples philosophy is that the consumer doesn't know what they want. Before the iPhone came out if you asked and any person off the street what they wanted from the phones in that day and age they couldn't have answered with the characteristics of the iPhone. Same for iPad.
 
Mac21ND said:
Disagree with Gizmodo. Windows 8 is a nice idea, but man it's going to confuse the living heck out of lots of casual Windows users. (Like the secretaries in my office. I feel bad for our IT department.)
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Hit one button and the Desktop is normal in Windows 8 ;)

Dumb colleagues you have :rolleyes:
 
Engadget Review is a good one.

Geez some of the others really try hard to kiss Apple's *** though.

For myself, I am still on SL, and nothing in Mountain Lion is making me want to upgrade yet, maybe messages once iOS 6 is out. I have learned in the past never to jump on a new OS, wait for a release or 2 and it should be much more stable/bug free.
 
hobo.hopkins said:
Although the application in question is a popular one, I hardly think Apple can know how well an updated operating system can run every application in existence for Lion (which, I gather, is a lot). To think otherwise is foolhardly and irrational.
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I didn't say every application. I was talking about one of the most used on their systems. As I said I think it makes good business practice on the part of both Adobe and Apple to know this information at release, instead of both saying, oh, er, we don't know.
 
Mattie Num Nums said:
Lion was extremely flawed. Snow Leopard was Vista 1 and Lion was Vista 2. Mountain Lion is what it should have been in the first place.

As for Lion issues. One of the largest issues was Apple releasing an Operating System that had broken connectors (AD didn't work until 10.7.3 and SMB is frightfully slow.)
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Snow Leopard was Vista 1? What world are you living in? Snow Leopard is generally regarded as the most stable, best functioning OS. People either seem to love Lion or hate it, but Snow Leopard was mostly loved by all. As far as calling Lion "Vista" I thought we got all of those posts over with in the first few weeks of its release. Do we really need to drag conversations back to that again?
 
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