Rumor Claims iOS 14 to Support All the Same iPhones as iOS 13

[827538]

Awesome! Another year I can put a little more into stocks and keep my 6S (which has been brilliant and still perfect to this day). Although I might get the 12 if it ticks the right boxes.

This is why iPhones are so much more prized than their $1000 Android equivalents. Real long term support. My $600 6S will last me 6 years potentially. $100/year and it's still doing great. My wife just got an iPhone 11 Pro which is fantastic but my 6S is still as solid as ever.

 

[Homme]

I’d love to give Apple money for a new iPhone again — if they’d ever again make one physically smaller than the 4.7” class devices.

That is not happening and you know it.

My mother is using an Air 2. If it doesn't get the update, I get it---that machine is like 5 years old. That roughly seems like Apple's cut off point for ios devices.

true, but if it does get iPadOS 14 it will be the longest supported iDevice ever

it’s really unbelievable. Mail on ios13 most of the time is terribly slow and unresponsive... USELESS!!!

the mail app is garbage to start with.I use Gmail and outlook apps and they are better than the original Mail app which stuffed me up for years before I changed

 

[V_Man]

Yes I do. I’m like why? What drives this individual to purchase something we use pretty much all the time from a company that makes a phone that explodes and a 10 year old can hack into? Why??

maybe they don’t like iOS. Pretty simple.

 

[turbineseaplane]

That is not happening and you know it.

Actually, I don't know it..
(neither do you btw)

 

[Homme]

Actually, I don't know it..
(neither do you btw)

oh but there’s this

only the tiniest portion of people want a 4 inch iphone

the rest want a iphone which is 4.7 inches or bigger

you don’t see people complain about the (non existence) of small phones in Androidland

 

[Wanted797]

And Mail will still be broken.

I don’t get these comments. Mail works fine for me and has since like iOS 3. Only issue I remember is way back then trying to map a hotmail account was horrible.

 

[Marshall73]

So you're an engineer at Apple?

no, but look at why Apple dropped previous hardware, lack of 64 bit and lack of RAM. Neither of these are an issue with currently supported hardware. Apple would need to invent a reason to drop any of these devices or face some backlash.
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Why the iOS and iPadOS fragmentation? Just make it like Android where it runs on both phone and tablet with all features unless Apple wants to milk consumers into buying two devices.

Clearly you haven’t run Android on a tablet, it’s a joke.

 

[vmistery]

So my 6s bought in the month after release might be supported for another year, that is awesome, I use a 6s as my backup phone to my X, the question will be when i upgrade to the 12 do I make the X the backup or let that little workhorse 6s do another cycle...

 

[bryce13950]

50 million people a year is niche?

Source?

 

[V_Man]

Source?

That was an estimate given by pickurpoison.
but that does seem like a fair number. Maybe it’s 20 million. But Apple isn’t offering it unless people are using it.

 

[Marty80]

That’s fantastic, Apple have yet to redesign their IPad Mini. I am still using a IPad mini 4 given the iPad mini 5 has retained many of the iPad mini 4 design traits.

if Apple do not update there mini line up, I might sell my mini 4. Given I will be updating my iPhone X to a iPhone 12 6.7” screen. It’s sad how Apple is out dating there devices faster than there creating them.

 

[bryce13950]

That was an estimate given by pickurpoison.
but that does seem like a fair number. Maybe it’s 20 million. But Apple isn’t offering it unless people are using it.

Well according to a few things that I have found, the average that people currently upgrade their phones is about every three years https://www.techtimes.com/articles/...wait-3-years-to-upgrade-their-smartphones.htm. Specifically in iPhone users only about 20% of all iPhone users as of 2018 upgrade within a year https://9to5mac.com/2018/03/12/new-...ll-upgrade-to-a-new-iphone-iphones-this-fall/

Apple also only sells between 180 and 190 million iPhones globally a year https://marketrealist.com/2019/08/iphone-loses-global-smartphone-market-share/. Of those only about 60-70 percent of the sales are of the newest model https://thenextweb.com/plugged/2020/01/21/apple-iphone-11-sales-q4-2019-prediction-analysis-se-2/. This means that when an iPhone model is the brand new model, Apple will sell about 108 - 133 million units of that model. In order for the number 50 million to be correct then that would mean that between 40 and 50 percent of all brand new iPhone model sales in a year would be to people that bought the brand new model the year before. However, only about 2 percent of iPhone users upgrade their phones every year https://www.statista.com/chart/3634/smartphone-upgrades/. This means that the amount of people going out and buying the new model every single year would be 2% of the 108-133 million new models that are sold globally on a yearly basis.

At most 2.5 million people upgrade their iPhones every year of the roughly 900 million total global iPhone users. 0.27777% of iPhone users upgrade on a yearly basis, that is a niche group.

 

[V_Man]

Apple offers the program. People are using it. I don’t worry about 5 years of updates. All I need is 1-2. Tbh. I’m not really concerned about what other people do.

 

[I7guy]

Well according to a few things that I have found, the average that people currently upgrade their phones is about every three years https://www.techtimes.com/articles/...wait-3-years-to-upgrade-their-smartphones.htm. Specifically in iPhone users only about 20% of all iPhone users as of 2018 upgrade within a year https://9to5mac.com/2018/03/12/new-...ll-upgrade-to-a-new-iphone-iphones-this-fall/

Apple also only sells between 180 and 190 million iPhones globally a year https://marketrealist.com/2019/08/iphone-loses-global-smartphone-market-share/. Of those only about 60-70 percent of the sales are of the newest model https://thenextweb.com/plugged/2020/01/21/apple-iphone-11-sales-q4-2019-prediction-analysis-se-2/. This means that when an iPhone model is the brand new model, Apple will sell about 108 - 133 million units of that model. In order for the number 50 million to be correct then that would mean that between 40 and 50 percent of all brand new iPhone model sales in a year would be to people that bought the brand new model the year before. However, only about 2 percent of iPhone users upgrade their phones every year https://www.statista.com/chart/3634/smartphone-upgrades/. This means that the amount of people going out and buying the new model every single year would be 2% of the 108-133 million new models that are sold globally on a yearly basis.

At most 2.5 million people upgrade their iPhones every year of the roughly 900 million total global iPhone users. 0.27777% of iPhone users upgrade on a yearly basis, that is a niche group.

All that could be out the window with the iPhone 12.

 

[PickUrPoison]

That was an estimate given by pickurpoison.
but that does seem like a fair number. Maybe it’s 20 million. But Apple isn’t offering it unless people are using it.

As I already mentioned, I was not estimating yearly upgraders at 5% of the installed base.

Rumor Claims iOS 14 to Support All the Same iPhones as iOS 13

Re-read my post. I never said 50 million users upgrade yearly. My point was that even if it were that high, it’s still only 5% of the installed base. If I had to guess, I’d estimate that maybe 1 in 10 iPhones sold would be to someone with last year’s model. So maybe 20 million. I wouldn’t call...

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My estimate of 20 million yearly upgraders and 180 million upgrading from older phones may be overly optimistic, but it’s just a guess on my part. I wouldn’t use it as a data point if I were you, as I relied on no data to arrive at that estimate.

 

[31 Flavas]

Apple is likely to announce iOS 14 and iPadOS 14 at the Worldwide Developers Conference in June, and a new rumor claims the next major version of iOS will support the same iPhone models as iOS 13, while iPadOS 14 will trim its compatible devices list.

5 year phone support with OS updates is a scam. Planned obsolescence. It's just a trick to slow down your phone and make you think you need the new iPhone. Apple is so horrible. Don't ever upgrade your iOS on your iPhone! And double screw you Apple. The iPad Air 2 and iPad mini are still perfectly viable. I demand 5 and 6 year software support for my iPads! I want iPad OS 14! You're just screwing me over and your loyal customers by cutting off iPad Air 2 and iPad mini customers so that you can get your precious additional hardware sales. Forced obsolescence!

 

[Locke Cole]

Wouldn't be surprised in the least bit if the 6s and SE will get iOS 14. Both phones have 2GB of RAM, 12MP rear camera with 4K 30fps video shooting capabilities, Augmented Reality support etc. The 6s also has 2nd Gen Touch ID, Taptic Engine, etc.

They (especially the 6s) are not too different from the 7 at all! Having played around with my old 6s (which I gave to my parents) it runs iOS 13 pretty well! Not the best experience but far from the worst.

 

[nitramluap]

It's already more than one anyway: iPod Touch 7th gen is from 2019.

Goddamn it! 😩