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oh but I do see Touch 7th gen dropped off before the other A10 devices because of its processor speed (1.64 GHz) verses the others (2.34Ghz). Add the battery of the device itself as well compared to its other A10 cousins too
iPod touch 6th gen had a down clocked A8 but it was dropped along with the iPhone 6. Considering they are still selling it will probably receive support as long as the iPhone 7.
 
iOS 13 dropped support for all A7 devices and some A8 devices (any with 1 GB of ram). I could easily see Apple dropping remaining A8 devices and all A9 devices this time.
Definitely possible, the 6 not getting 13 while the Air 2 got both 13 and 14 makes it a toss-up to me considering they're the same generation. RAM isn't really in play here considering even the iPhone 8 has 2GB.
 
iPod touch 6th gen had a down clocked A8 but it was dropped along with the iPhone 6. Considering they are still selling it will probably receive support as long as the iPhone 7.

but the clock speed difference was minimal. 300mhz at best. This difference is 700mhz and touch 7th gen has ****** battery life as well

ah but they sold 6th gen iPod Touch till the 7 came out then a few days later after 7th gen iPod Touch was released WWDC happened and 6th gen iPod Touch did not get iOS 13 despite the fact that it was discontinued days later

so I wouldn’t hold your breath 😊
 
Probably a good time to upgrade my iPhone 6s. I'd love to have the better camera from the newer phones, but that alone seemed like it wasn't a great reason to upgrade.

I still use my iPad mini 2, which stopped getting OS upgrades after iOS 12, however, it does occasionally get 0.0.1 increment version updates for iOS 12. Not sure how long that will continue, but regardless, I feel like it's fairly low risk since I mainly use it for media consumption and don't use it all the time, unlike my phone.
 
Still using 6S and no need to retire it, works perfectly. iOS 14 will be newest OS for almost year now and after that nothing dramatic happens in 1-2 years.

My iPad is running iOS 12 because support ended and works just fine. I don't know why I would need to upgrade it..
There will be many apps only supporting iOS 13 and onwards because of SwiftUI.
 
It's nice to see Apple has continued to support these older devices for so long. At some point they're just not going to work with newer operating systems. Only recently has Android increased their support to three years.
 
Probably a good time to upgrade my iPhone 6s. I'd love to have the better camera from the newer phones, but that alone seemed like it wasn't a great reason to upgrade.

I still use my iPad mini 2, which stopped getting OS upgrades after iOS 12, however, it does occasionally get 0.0.1 increment version updates for iOS 12. Not sure how long that will continue, but regardless, I feel like it's fairly low risk since I mainly use it for media consumption and don't use it all the time, unlike my phone.
I'm surprised anyone with a 6s uses their camera for anything. I went from the 10 to 12 and noticed a huge difference in quality. I have a 7 here and won't even bother with the camera. It's just that bad when you compare it to the newer ones. Of course I've seen some good pictures taken on the 6 but I guess you have to work harder to get that right shot.
 
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I still have my iPhone 6s, but use it primarily as a backup iPod Touch that I can swap between my iPhone X. The battery life sucks though, even with a $29 replacement back in 2018. I'm sure even if support is dropped in iOS 15 you can probably still use it for a few years more without trouble. Apple devices are very appliance like and continue working even in vintage. For example, I have a 2005 PowerBook G4 that I use for watching DVDs. For basic tasks that doesn't require the Internet: word processing, listening to music, it still works fine.
 
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I play Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes religiously on my iDevices. It's a fun game and now 4 years old. The community has been clamoring for a visual graphic overhaul this year and EA/Capital Games made the decision to handicap the game's quality to ensure more devices can run it. I think 4-5 years is good enough to support a device for the sake of the community as a whole.
 
Doesn't Android only guarantee 3?

yes and no. They have for a long time done only 2 years of major updates for all Android devices but google a few months ago had announced a maximum of 3 years for all Android devices (again depending on manufacturer)
 
I hate this planned obsolence and how fanboys defend it.

I have a Intel 4770k with 97GTX that I've had since early 2013, 7 years and there hasn't been a single issue with getting the latest games, patches, software for it. I'm on the latest windows and latest everything.

I have a iMac from the same 2013 era, and cannot install Big Sur on it since 2014 is the earliest it supports. I find that absolutely ridiculous that in the Apple world, I'm stuck having to spend well over 2000 for a new iMac, whereas in the PC world, I spent only 90 bucks to fix its power supply, and it continues to this day fighting on, serving my home as a media server, and every day gaming PC that runs most AAA games > 60fps

That's one of the problems when it comes to Apple that I grotesquely hate, my parents are both on 6s and many people I know still have their 6s (and this is after the stupid battery scandal) so all have pretty much brand new 6s batteries and come next year, I'm looking at spend >$2000 for each person to get them the latest and greatest if they want X feature on some piece of new iOS version?

It's great for shareholders, but absolute garbage for consumers
If it were so bad for consumers, they'd not keep buying Apple products. Consumers are all different and have choices. You've made the choice to keep your custom PC around, and I kept my '09 Mac. Hard to compare when it comes to gaming anyway since Macs aren't meant for that at all.

Also, comparing to phones doesn't make sense since nobody is upgrading phone hardware. Apple supports their phones longer than almost anyone else too.
 
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In the real life original iPhone SE has been destroyed since iOS 13. There’s a long thread here on macrumors about this (iPhone SE BT issue related to Apple Watch Siri etc). iOS 14 has (if possible) worsened il. Battery life is almost 1 hour here. a SHAME
^ This is the real problem. I'm fine knowing what I'm getting into, a phone that'll probably last ~6 years, but I'd have a problem if Apple sprung an update on me early-on that made the phone a pain to use. The iPhone 6 throttling was that until they fixed it.
 
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I'm surprised anyone with a 6s uses their camera for anything. I went from the 10 to 12 and noticed a huge difference in quality. I have a 7 here and won't even bother with the camera. It's just that bad when you compare it to the newer ones. Of course I've seen some good pictures taken on the 6 but I guess you have to work harder to get that right shot.
Thanks, that's good to know. I've taken some great shots with the 6s. I had an iPhone 4 and a Nexus before getting the 6s. The camera on the 6s seems worse than the iPhone 4 in some situations, but is better in most.
 
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I'm surprised anyone with a 6s uses their camera for anything. I went from the 10 to 12 and noticed a huge difference in quality. I have a 7 here and won't even bother with the camera. It's just that bad when you compare it to the newer ones. Of course I've seen some good pictures taken on the 6 but I guess you have to work harder to get that right shot.
It's good enough to use. Obviously I won't be the main photographer during a trip if someone has a newer phone, but hey, it's corona time.
 
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I have had absolutely no problem with my 6S+ and what it does now is perfectly satisfactory to me. Certainly far better than any other phone I have ever had. For my personal purposes, I need no other $1000+ phones. Same with my IPad. Does this mean I cannot keep what I have if this is all I want?
 
I have had absolutely no problem with my 6S+ and what it does now is perfectly satisfactory to me. Certainly far better than any other phone I have ever had. For my personal purposes, I need no other $1000+ phones. Same with my IPad. Does this mean I cannot keep what I have if this is all I want?
You can keep it, but about 1-2 years from now, more and more apps will stop receiving updates on it, and some of those apps may stop working altogether. On top of that, if vulnerabilities in iOS are discovered, you won't receive the patches. If you really care about security, you shouldn't keep it more than 2 years from now.

All things considered, I'm on the less caring side and will probably still keep my 6S for about 4 more years just cause I like it. If your concern is the money, you can buy a used newer iPhone instead of the latest, which of course won't be supported as long but will still be much less $/year.
 
This might be a silly question but does this mean the xr will be supported for another 5 years from now since it keeps staying in their lineup ? Instead of being supported until 2023 since i think it was released in 2018.
 
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