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As someone who travels a lot, this could be handy in a pinch to reverse charge my Apple Watch. As an artist, I usually travel with my iPad Pro, my iPhone 11 Pro Max & my Apple Watch. The iPad Pro uses usb-c, the iPhone uses lightning, & the Apple watch uses the included wireless charger. I am not usually against wires, but i wish Apple would unify the iPad Pro & iPhone to usb-c. One less wire. I don’t think wireless charging is fast enough for the ipad pro let alone the iphone yet. At least for my constant traveling needs. So i don’t see Apple getting rid of the port on the iPhone & going totally wireless just yet. Perhaps years from now when wireless charging is everywhere… or when charging thru the air is a thing? I dunno.

That being said, i still use the iPhone 11 Pro Max. I use it as my main travel camera. I didn’t upgrade to the 12… but i may upgrade to the 13 (or whatever they call it) this September... IF the camera updates are compelling enough. A faster wide angle lens. Longer tele. A portrait mode in video. We shall see.
 
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Apple could just replace the Lightning port at the bottom with the Smart Connector (although there's also the argument for them to move towards a universal port, USB-C). It would then charge like the old MacBook MagSafe. Smaller than the current MagSafe and probably works even more efficiently, with direct connection.
 
I still don't see any significant upgrades from the 12 to 13 (non-Pro)?
  • A15 and improved 5G modem
  • Slightly bigger battery
  • Better camera system
  • Smaller notch
  • Reverse charging
All pretty tiny upgrades, no? So the question would be whether these improvements are worth $100, assuming Apple keeps the 12 in the lineup.
In my particular case, I would probably get the 13 mini. I went from the 6+ to the SE 2020 and absolutely love the size reduction and chip power upgrade. What I've been envious of remains a better camera. If they make the battery last longer in the mini, it's the phone for me. I'll get it and hold onto it for a LONG time, especially if that size gets discontinued.
 
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Without getting anything started, who are you to decide what people need to and need not to do? It still is a free country in America and most Americans like to consume which keeps this little thing called the economy going.
Nice post you got there. Be a shame if someone interpreted it in the least charitable possible way to make themselves look morally superior. There is a difference between wanting and needing. Clearly the technology is baked in that there is not a NEED to upgrade EVERY year. The OP of the statement you are commenting on is not attacking America or your freedoms. Cool it.
 
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In my particular case, I would probably get the 13 mini. I went from the 6+ to the SE 2020 and absolutely love the size reduction and chip power upgrade. What I've been envious of remains a better camera. If they make the battery last longer in the mini, it's the phone for me. I'll get it and hold onto it for a LONG time, especially if that size gets discontinued.
Would you get the 12 mini instead if it costs $200 less ($499 vs $699 for the 13 mini)? That's the interesting question, at least to me.
 
The biggest reason I want this is so that I only need one cable to change my phone, AirPods and watch. The watch is the biggest pain point cause of the special cable need. But if I’m in a hotel room and charging my phone overnight it would be great to just put my watch on the back of my phone.
 
A15, better 5G modem
better battery, even larger than the 11 pro max for example
better camera
smaller notch
120hz display

This will be a no brainer for those with iphone Xs or older models and maybe for the 11 pro series users...
No. As an iPhone X owner, none of those trivial upgrades tempt me to replace one perfect fine (near) thousand pound iPhone with another one.
 
It’s nice to have the option in a pinch, but if Apple really wants to be green, it should actively work to educate people on how wasteful (and therefore unenvironmentally friendly) wireless charging really is.

I'm a late adopter of Wireless Qi charging, but find it very convenient. And it's even become necessary in my life, as it's the only way that I can charge my current iPhone XR. I'm on my second iPhone with a Lightning connector that just refuses to work. Back when we had the 30-pin connector, I never had any issues. Now, with Lightning, two phones in a row just fail to make a connection after a year. Maybe USB-C really is better?
 
I upgraded from the 6s to the 12 Pro and was not blown away by the upgrade. There were noticeable improvements across the board but nothing earth shattering. Part of that has to do with the 6s truly being ahead of its time and part of it has to do with technology not progressing as fast as it did in the early to mid 2010s.

I do have a BIG problem with the 12’s battery. I’m a moderate user and am down to 90% capacity. I also don’t like how much the phone heats up during tasks that aren’t complex or intensive. Even at 100% battery capacity, the battery life is at the bare minimum that I would consider acceptable

I also am not overly impressed by the camera. They featured it extensively in the unveiling but it doesn’t perform any better than I’d expect a 2020 phone to perform.

With all that said, the 12 Pro is a perfectly serviceable phone. I cannot see how they’d upgrade anything significantly enough to warrant an upgrade for owners of the 12.
 
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The biggest reason I want this is so that I only need one cable to change my phone, AirPods and watch. The watch is the biggest pain point cause of the special cable need. But if I’m in a hotel room and charging my phone overnight it would be great to just put my watch on the back of my phone.
I do wish the watch charging puck was just a lightning accessory. It would make packing a lot easier.
 
Reverse charging is something useless, like LIDAR, that other companies put on their devices. Hopefully Apple is smarter and stops putting hardware features with no uses on their devices. So few people need to reverse charge that its absurd to build it into the system.
 
It’s not great.

But imagine when Apple remove the port how much waste is going to be saved in the manufacture of that part.
Trivial compared to millions of devices charging at low efficiency every day over years. Wireless charging is very wasteful.
 
If the hypothetical no port iPhone gets hung up, then what does the owner do with no way to mechanically interject some sort of “stimulus” to get it unstuck? First answer I guess is throw it at a trash can and if gets unstuck great, or it stays stuck, leave it in the trash can…
Eh could possibly have it set up to use the smart connector to transfer data and power like on an ipad (I am sure apple could beef up these capabilities if they do remove the port).
 
A15, better 5G modem
better battery, even larger than the 11 pro max for example
better camera
smaller notch
120hz display

This will be a no brainer for those with iphone Xs or older models and maybe for the 11 pro series users...
The 120hz is a big sell for most people.
Our phones are too slow. Sorry
 
What a nightmare at Apple.
Now their reverse product managers have gain further ground against the only efficient and fast charging with cables.
Instead of a battery larger in dimension and capacity, those cable haters put in a larger coil. That is absurd!
I fear those managers with deep expertise in energy efficiency are shaking their heads if they are still there....

The issue of device space: If you do not want to integrate promising periscope telecameras and instead add cheap super wide-angle lenses, then this is really not a step forward. I had expected more from Apple. And now even the RWC freaks are getting a kick out of it. Very unpleasant stagnation at Apple.
I wonder about the real usage of the reverse wireless charging that’s available on some android phones. I know people have touted it but…
 
Reverse wireless charging only makes the equation even more inefficient. If someone wirelessly charged their phone at home, then while out and about used their phone to wirelessly charge their AirPods for example, you’d be taking 50% energy losses twice by the time the charge fills the AirPods.

The AirPods case with the wireless charging battery holds 398mAh. Which at 50% wireless charging efficiency means you’d need to use almost 800mAh of your phones battery to charge it from empty. Which would take 1600mAh of energy from the wireless charging pad or whatever to replace that charge in the phone itself.

1600mAh to charge a 398mAh AirPods case. Yikes :oops:
 
I use cases on my phones that I don’t even use wireless charging if it’s available, let alone reverse wireless charging. I wonder how many people have actually used reverse wireless charging on a regular basis.

I hope those extra space for those coils is not being used as an excuse to minimize battery capacity.
But yet the 3.5 mm plug was taking up too much space :rolleyes:
 
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