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The current itunes iteration for Windows is just garbage.
 
Hopefully I can still use the existing iTunes backup images I have on my Windows laptop. These are especially handy when upgrade time comes, plus they hold most of my health data from all the Watch models I've owned in the past.
 
I wish we could get Messages at least. Why can't Apple understand that many of it's loyal customers also use PC's?
 
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I wish we could get a proper Photos app on Windows. There's an iCloud app that can download your library but it's more of an archiving tool than a Photos app equivalent. Windows users are pretty much stuck with the icloud.com website which is usually behind on features.
 
A separate Apple TV+ app would be nice ... or being able to stream it online.

Isn't that what tv.apple.com is?

how. A. You state you’ll definitely download the app when you have no idea what it is??

most likely this will be “Music” for Windows vs iTunes.

and if your work restricts the Windows App Store you’ll be unable to download this. And if you have a proper IT in place that follows ITIL 4 standards you’ll have no admin rights to Install it.

Heh, ITIL. 1999 called…

Odds are "a 2nd work laptop" is a bit more relaxed than that.

screen dump? You mean video capture what’s on the screen? Sure use QuickTime or Camtasia on OS X.

Not gonna work.
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I wish we could get Messages at least. Why can't Apple understand that many of it's loyal customers also use PC's?

Oh, they understand. They're just straddling the line of not making the experience on Windows too good, or people won't want to buy Macs.
 
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Never happening — not in a million years. it doesn't generate income (so no push to get as many users as possible) and it is a desirable service that reinforces hardware sales for a hardware sales company. People like to compare Apple's products and services to Google and Amazon, but it's Apple's business model that actually differentiates them. Apple's focus is hardware sales not data-mining users on free services. Opening up Messages to other platforms greatly increases the stress on their infrastructure at a loss as they recoup nothing if there is no increase in hardware sales for this desirable service.

Messages is a patch on the quilt of the iOS experience that keeps people buying Apple hardware, anything they cannot monetize (iTunes, Apple Music, AppleTV) goes to improving the experience in the products that are their main business focus — their hardware.

They totally could monetize it. I was use thinking about that recently. They could provide the platform for free, but make iMessage apps, Memoji/Animoji, pins, etc., paid features, whether a one-time purchase or a subscription (likely to be the latter). Also, when people see how well iMessage works, they could be enticed to switch over to iPhone. Apple has plenty to gain and nothing to lose from bringing iMessage to Windows/Android.
 
They totally could monetize it. I was use thinking about that recently. They could provide the platform for free, but make iMessage apps, Memoji/Animoji, pins, etc., paid features, whether a one-time purchase or a subscription (likely to be the latter). Also, when people see how well iMessage works, they could be enticed to switch over to iPhone.
Won't work — it's an expected service people will not want to spend any money on. It would be one thing if it was all free on Apple hardware and a paid service if you wanted to use it on non-Apple hardware, but monetizing it cross-platform is how you get a lot more people on WhatsApp.

Apple has plenty to gain and nothing to lose from bringing iMessage to Windows/Android.
They really don't. They aren't monetizing it now so more users aren't more desirable than more hardware sales. They have plenty to lose if a main feature of iOS is now available on a competitor's platform for a possibly cheaper hardware price. Again, you have to remember that Google (who gives stuff away cross-platform, to recoup on data) has a different business model than Apple does, so it doesn't see more free users as valuable — it sees hardware sales as valuable.

I personally would not want to see messaging become a platform to monetize.
 
I would think a FaceTime for Business on Windows would expand of the product into the market Zoom has seemed to captured.
Apple doesn't need — and dare I say doesn't want — that business. That's a service, and it goes against its business model of supporting services that add value to their hardware. If they do that, they now have to support cross-platform systems and they don't want that. They pride themselves in making solutions easy enough for home use, but secure enough for work. They aren't going to stop that to compete in a market that adds nothing to their hardware sales.

Apple has shown time (Airpod connectivity method) and time (HomePod connectivity access) and time (messages, Siri, maps, airdrop, app store, ApplePay) again that they are more than happy to limit potential sales and market for products and services to keep tight hardware/ecosystem integration and experience. It's what makes the experience desirable in the first place — it's nuances can't be replicated without a ton of effort and even then — poorly.
 
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Apple doesn't need — and dare I say doesn't want — that business. That's a service, and it goes against its business model of supporting services that add value to their hardware.

It's also way outside their wheelhouse.

I don't see a compelling case to enter the market. What does FaceTime for Business do that Teams and Slack don't?
 
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It's also way outside their wheelhouse.

I don't see a compelling case to enter the market. What does FaceTime for Business do that Teams and Slack don't?
Yeah — It's also one of those scenarios where if Apple DOES make something, then it's eating. the lunch of a third-party developer. Apple doesn't need that space — it does nothing for their hardware business.
 
Well, they probably want to follow Catalina's footsteps and break up iTunes for Windows into Music, TV, Podcasts.

Wonder if they'll also bother with File Explorer integration for iPhone?
I hope so. I still sync my iPhone with iTunes just like back in the day. I also love iTunes as a music player and wouldn't mind a refreshed version. From what I noticed, iTunes been getting only security updates in the last couple of years.
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Would be cool to have a Spotify alternative on Xbox!
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Of course they do, just look at the icons Apple used to use for Windows computers in the network.
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Lol. The true joke is how Windows 10 laptops are more powerful and stylish than a Macbook nowadays.
 
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They need to follow M$ aesthetics, which means that they still have to use the floppy disk as the save icon.

So what? Apple also uses a telephone handset as their icon for their telephone app. And calling Microsoft "M$" as an Apple user is really rich - pun intended.
 
I've purchased 3 homepods. 2 for myself and I bought one for my brother and sister in law. I love their rich, full sound. Now for the bad news. When I first bought them, they played all my purchased music by request. Therefore, I went out and completely repurchased my entire cd library, digitally, through itunes. Then some time ago, when I requested something I'd purchased, I'd hear....Sorry, I cant find that in your library. Infuriating! The whole point of purchasing that music was so I didn't run the battery down on my Ipad/iphones. I spoke to a senior advisor that said it was interference from my router and another who told me the homepods were never designed to do what I was describing or asking. In other words, they just want more money for Apple Music. They're not getting it, nor am I purchasing anymore music through Itunes. Now, I'm getting lots of "just one moment" " I need a second for that" from Siri. Fortunately, I purchases some lovely covers for them so my paperweights look more presentable.
 
I've purchased 3 homepods. 2 for myself and I bought one for my brother and sister in law. I love their rich, full sound. Now for the bad news. When I first bought them, they played all my purchased music by request. Therefore, I went out and completely repurchased my entire cd library, digitally, through itunes. Then some time ago, when I requested something I'd purchased, I'd hear....Sorry, I cant find that in your library. Infuriating! The whole point of purchasing that music was so I didn't run the battery down on my Ipad/iphones. I spoke to a senior advisor that said it was interference from my router and another who told me the homepods were never designed to do what I was describing or asking. In other words, they just want more money for Apple Music. They're not getting it, nor am I purchasing anymore music through Itunes. Now, I'm getting lots of "just one moment" " I need a second for that" from Siri. Fortunately, I purchases some lovely covers for them so my paperweights look more presentable.
That's a crappy experience, for sure. I have to say though, the getting lots of "just one moment" " I need a second for that" from Siri... that sounds like a network issue. I only ever get that when the device is almost out of wifi range and is trying to get more from a weak network signal. For a device that relies on streaming, a spotty network signal is debilitating.
 
So what? Apple also uses a telephone handset as their icon for their telephone app. And calling Microsoft "M$" as an Apple user is really rich - pun intended.
I use a telephone everyday in my office, I make calls to other offices in my small business and it works like a charm. No data plan, it’s fast, no security issues, it works offline, I can hear the other end phone ringing when I make a call and so much more. Also, everyone knows what it is.

As for floppy disks, it’s dead. And just like Jesus, it died to become the icon of saving, for M$ at least.
 
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I wish we could get a proper Photos app on Windows. There's an iCloud app that can download your library but it's more of an archiving tool than a Photos app equivalent. Windows users are pretty much stuck with the icloud.com website which is usually behind on features.
Irfanview is what I use for windows. Wish they made a iOS version.
 
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