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Rumors of New Apple Hardware Tomorrow Swirling

gilkisson said:
++1

I just can't conceptualize an OS X Server inside a Mini. It's an underpowered little trooper as it is, needs some serious hardware help before it should be allowed out on the big streets.

So I'm thinking this particular rumor is a red herring.

OTOH, if they could indeed cram in the hardware, an additional Ethernet port, a (much) better CPU, then Wow. It would be cool, to say the least.
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For most things like file server, LDAP (for small company), web server, application server (small company), email server, etc...... You do not need a lot of horse power.

There are weaker linux based servers out there working fine day to date. The extra Ethernet I need, CPU IM ok as is, extra memory user replasable would be grand. Small disk is fine for booting and OS.

I need something small like that to take with me when I give security training so I can setup different hackable web sites for the studends to practice on and other network devices to atack during the class.
 
xhambonex said:
When was the last time they redesigned multiple products (counting 3 for this rumor) and released brand new hardware that no one else has on the market without an event?

I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but I'm just curious if they've ever had a "silent" release that big.
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last March? Mac Mini, iMac, Mac Pro with Nahalem (beats all other vendors by months, Apple got it early).
 
gilkisson said:
Well, sure. I have some P4-class servers running various Linux.. and more dual and quad Xeon servers running Windows 2003/2008 Server.

It all depends on the workload you expect to handle. And how much downtime you can tolerate. Without things like redundant power supplies, network ports and the like, it'd fine (no, it'd be awesome) for an at-home or small network server. But for the enterprise? I have to say no, even while granting the fact that the enterprise isn't where this is aimed, in all likelihood.
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I don't think you're quite getting it. What makes you think a Mac Mini running OS X server would be aimed at the Enterprise ? This would be a direct answer to Windows Home Server (notice the word Home in there) and other Home server solutions like the different NAS boxes running Linux.

People at Home (again that word) that want file and print services, and maybe some UPNP streaming to their PS3s or Xboxes or Apple TVs.

EagerDragon said:
There are weaker linux based servers out there working fine day to date. The extra Ethernet I need, CPU IM ok as is, extra memory user replasable would be grand. Small disk is fine for booting and OS.
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My home DHCP/DNS (local zone + caching for the Internet) runs on an Ultra 5 workstation. Yes, a cheapo 200 something mhz SPARC with 128 MB of ram. It also runs a Web server and a PostgreSQL database. Oh, and a squid proxy I use to surf when I'm not at home and need to bypass some kind of filter. It barely breaks 0.02 load.

A Mac Mini would destroy that box and yet I can barely make a dent in it. Oh and it runs a full X desktop accessible through XDMCP.
 
Eidorian said:
And that's why enterprise situations have "enterprise" hardware. :p

Most of us can scrap together a spare tower to run some services for our home. My router works just fine with 200 MHz. :D

Of course for your more average consumer you're going to want something you can package.
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200 MhZ router... Monowall or pfSense? Those are my favorites, anyways. Ewscray Etgearney.

I don't know -- to take the Mini and beef it up as a better desktop, I can see that, and really want that. But to take the Mini and pitch it as a "server" to the "average consumer" - by offering what? It's cute, it's better than it was, and now it's a server? When most of those average Joes don't know or care what a server is or does...

If this rumorlet is true, there's a huge missing "one more thing", the thing that makes it work and sell.

It's like the pirate with a steering wheel down the front of his pants. When asked why, he said "Arrr, tis drivin' me nuts!". That's what these rumors are doing as well.
 
niclet said:
Agree. Long time awaited!

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From Macblogz
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Can't help it, it reminds me too much this Stainless Steel Soap design :D

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Eidorian said:
The E5200 is still budget processing. An OEM can probably get them for around $40-50 a pop.

The only cheaper desktop processor I'd consider would be a Sempron 140.

Time to compare some Geekbench charts? :p

I believe the N230 can manage a decent ~900.
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Hackintosh (a good indication of OS X performance on an Atom):

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/176451

A G5 XServe running Leopard Server:

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/176700

A recent Mac Mini:

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/176734

Looks like it'll do fine to me. ;)

Maybe that's why this company likes them:

http://www.macminicolo.net/facility.html

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NT1440 said:
The white macbooks are flying off the shelves around here. I've encountered at least 20 students at my college with new plastic mb's.
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trust me if they had a cheaper aluminum choice I would get it over the plastic MB I currently have and I am sure a lot of people feel the same way.
 
Ok so this whole thing has me really eager. I am still holding onto a 2006 2GHz MBP, and have $$$$ in the bank ready to go if a new iMac comes out. Especially if a new multitouch desktop solution comes out. I am a photographer and this would help me out a lot.

The current iMac line up is great but this would be the icing on the cake on a new purchase. And no one can complain with spec bumps.
 
JGowan said:
Nice try, but you've got your silver-screen personalities mixed up. "Ha cha cha cha cha" wasn't Groucho, it was Jimmy Durante! :D

jimmy%20durante.jpg
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Forgive me, google failed me, as have countless pop culture references. :(
 
polaris20 said:
A recent Mac Mini:

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/176734
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It's still amazing to see how powerful my Macbook is. It can manage over 2900 in Geekbench for being 2 years old now. (3100 in Snow Leopard) :rolleyes:

Apple sure shows its hardware progress. I had my MacBook face off against the Unibodies last year and still hold its own. Atom and the low end Core 2 processors are more than fine for media sharing and backup.
 
If they come out with a redesigned iMac I hope you can raise and lower the body and that they shave some more of that big chin.

I still love the old flower pot iMac for it freedom of movement and adjustments.
 
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Hmm. New Apple stuff, a possible new Canon pro DSLR and the Barnes and Noble e-reader all slated for tomorrow. And I'm gonna want them all.
 
I have no idea what this multitouch thing is, what it does, or even why I would want it, but I have a feeling that it might restore my sense of childlike wonder. It's been so long since the iPhone was revealed.
 
KnightWRX said:
I don't think you're quite getting it. What makes you think a Mac Mini running OS X server would be aimed at the Enterprise ? This would be a direct answer to Windows Home Server (notice the word Home in there) and other Home server solutions like the different NAS boxes running Linux.

People at Home (again that word) that want file and print services, and maybe some UPNP streaming to their PS3s or Xboxes or Apple TVs.



My home DHCP/DNS (local zone + caching for the Internet) runs on an Ultra 5 workstation. Yes, a cheapo 200 something mhz SPARC with 128 MB of ram. It also runs a Web server and a PostgreSQL database. It barely breaks 0.02 load.
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I hear what you are saying. And in so saying, you identify as not the target market, IMO. You clearly know what a server is, and is for. If this Mini is targeted at the "home server" market, it's targeted towards those who don't know or care what a server is or does. "It Just Works" - but what does it do for Joe User that his PC/Mac does not already do?

Besides, you and I probably won't buy a MiniServer, as has been stated, we have cases laying around we could throw together, slap an OS on, configure as we want it, and spend very little. Apart from the cool factor, it's not going to sell to us.

I don't see it going into the Enterprise either... but then again, I don't know a thing about the specs of this vapour machine. Yet. But it will have to do something the average user today cannot do.
 
EagerDragon said:
If they come out with a redesigned iMac I hope you can raise and lower the body and that they shave some more of that big chin.

I still love the old flower pot iMac for it freedom of movement and adjustments.
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I agree, on the 24" the "chin" is not as bad. But it would be nice to raise and lower like the Dell displays (that's my only reference point for such a feature). When the ACD didn't have this capability I was rather surprised.
 
12 core

I work for a school district and we had a special leopard training today. They let is slip that they are going to 12 cores on the mac pros. Not huge news but still interesting.
 
jelly said:
I work for a school district and we had a special leopard training today. They let is slip that they are going to 12 cores on the mac pros. Not huge news but still interesting.
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That would match the speculation that the MacPro's were going to get Gulftown chips.
 
One of the other things they really pushed today was that they enabled Snow Leopard server to run on all desktops instead of just xserves. I have a feeling this is going come into play sometime soon.
 
Dany M said:
Is it common for apple not to have an event from something such has this?
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No. But it makes sense to do it this way THIS TIME if Apple has done something earth-shattering with the product line.

Microsoft has a lot riding on Thursday. But consider that the media already knows everything there is to know about Windows 7-- the stories have already been written.

So consider this timetable:

- Monday: announce incredible financial results during the worst recession in 70+ years-- creating initial buzz around Apple
- Tuesday: completely surprise the market with an incredible product innovation, generating a sudden rush of interest, curiosity and buzz
- Wednesday: because Tuesday's move was unexpected, people are still excited about it
- Thursday: Windows 7, yadda yadda yadda.

Not saying it's going to play out this way... but I could see Apple plotting this.
 
Cmon new iMacs, I dont even care what, quad core, blu-ray, or none of the above, I really don't care. I am getting a new iMac when I go to the states in November around black friday. Hope there is something new tomorrow. Also, has any one ever had trouble getting an iMac around black friday? Do the Apple Stores have pretty good stock? I am going to the Pittsburgh area if it helps.
 
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