Safari 15 Users Say New Tab Design is Counterintuitive

[aevan]

It is "natural" scrolling all over again...

What’s wrong with natural scrolling? I prefer it to the other way around.

 

[MedRed]

was accustomed to it pretty quickly.

 

[aevan]

No kidding. He is at the top of the sycophant hall of fame along with that other partner in Cupertino-butt-kissing-hall-of-famedom Rene. When Gruber's willing to offer critique of Apple it's akin to a double murder charge.

No, they just like Apple products and talk about them. Not like “I hate everything new” cynics. It’s ok to like things. People liking things you don’t doesn’t make them sycophants. Shocking.

 

[Takeo]

Y’all a bunch of crazy cry babies. Much prefer the changes. And love the extra space it provides

The problem is with separate mode not compact mode

 

[mdriftmeyer]

Tab groups are fantastic

 

[Takeo]

I tend to try to type into the tab bar into the safari URL bar, because the tab bar looks like a text input area. Also it's odd that you can't close an inactive tab; you have to either switch to the tab or go to the tab view (the boxes on the top right) to close an inactive tab.

I’ve been using separate mode for over a week (I’m a web dev and compact just doesn’t work for me… I need an alway-on always-visible address bar) and I am still finding myself doing this 10X a day. It’s brutal. In separate mode the tabs are not inputs (as they are in compact mode) so they should not LOOK like inputs. Really basic stuff any first year student would know.

 

[howywood]

Brave is where it's at anyways

 

[NARadyk]

First world problems.

 

[Victor Mortimer]

You mean as in cause a lot of "drama" initially and then completely normal and accepted by most users afterwards?

"Drama" as in UNnatural scrolling is the first thing I turn off when I set up a machine for the first time or the first time I touch somebody else's that hasn't turned that garbage off yet?

Backwards scrolling is counter-intuitive. At least it can be turned off, unlike the missing scroll arrows that REALLY need to come back.

 

[Victor Mortimer]

Brave is where it's at anyways

Firefox. The browser you're looking for is Firefox.

 

[MBAir2010]

I work in my browser all day with multiple tabs in continuous use, and this has been so disruptive to my workflow that I'm now trialling Microsoft Edge.

I haven't even looked at any other browser for more than a decade, but working with Edge has been such a relief over the past week or so. I'm now very likely to stick with it permanently.

I always use edge when i need important things done on the ipad!

 

[JetLaw]

It is "natural" scrolling all over again...

No. No it isn’t.

 

[JetLaw]

The new Safari UI is horrible. The irony is that by eliminating so much chrome from the UI they are driving users to Chrome.

 

[coolkid93]

so stupid especially on the iPhone how the search bar is at the bottom towards the keypad now. Should’ve just kept it the way it was

 

[masterleep]

No doubt brought to us by the UI geniuses who came up with Apple Music, Apple News, and the previous Apple TV remote control.

 

[DesertDrummer]

Exactly. It works perfectly fine in dark mode, which is why I never saw a problem. Are there really people who still use the old fashioned and obsolete light mode?! I guess Apple only test stuff with dark mode now days.

At least you finally admitted why you weren't seeing the *real* problem that the rest of us here were describing, which you described as "nonsense". Guess it wasn't nonsense, huh?

If the UI is only decent in one mode, then that should be the only mode available.

 

[DesertDrummer]

This is literally a non-issue that people are complaining about just to complain about.

You are wrong and literally don't know what you're talking about.

 

[coolfactor]

Agreed. What a poor design! Come on Apple, you can do better!

 

[iLog.Genius]

If you don't have dark mode on, the white isn't too bad but with dark mode, it doesn't not blend in at all - it's just light grey bars sitting at the top. Can't say I'm a fan.

 

[gasman5]

Stopped using safari when it wouldn't properly support some of my most used web sites (OpenGL issue I think). Removed it from my system via command line and happily switched to Firefox and Chrome. No reason to go back now.

 

[ErikGrim]

If you accidentally close the wrong tab, long press the new tab icon (+) in the toolbar to get it back.

Or you know....cmd-Z

 

[ErikGrim]

Agreed, except... he doesn't defend them 24/7. He likes many of the things they do, sure, but calls out things he sees as wrong or stupid quite regularly.

Agreed. The very reason we have favicons in Safari now is directly from a Gruber complaint.

 

[ErikGrim]

Safari 4 Beta?

I loved those tabs. Easily the easiest to gauge which tab held which content.

 

[timidpimpin]

Use Firefox or Brave. Problem solved.

 

[Shirasaki]

If you accidentally close the wrong tab, long press the new tab icon (+) in the toolbar to get it back.

Not so much if you accidentally close the wrong safari window. AFAIK there is no way to quickly reopen tabs closed in a browsing without digging into memory and safari history.