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You scoff at MS monopoly, but where is the competition? Not Apple, so long as they continue to restrict their OS to select hardware.
 
No, i shouldn't compare apple to MS, apple is worse, people actually "downloaded" safari when they thought they are updating iTunes.....

Apple, how low. 11 million? lMAO
 
URL bar not smart?

Ok, I am prepared to accept dumb-ass related flaming on this one.

How can I make the URL bar smarter? It doesn't seem to be as smart as Firefox. For instance if you type in say 'James May' it doesn't pull up your James May Telegraph UK bookmark even though 'James May' is in the URL and page title (albeit not at the start of either).

So is this fixable or just something they have to work on?

Thanks.

(btw running on Mac OS 10.5.7)
 
Ok, I am prepared to accept dumb-ass related flaming on this one.

How can I make the URL bar smarter? It doesn't seem to be as smart as Firefox. For instance if you type in say 'James May' it doesn't pull up your James May Telegraph UK bookmark even though 'James May' is in the URL and page title (albeit not at the start of either).

So is this fixable or just something they have to work on?

Thanks.

(btw running on Mac OS 10.5.7)
the question should be, and actually has been asked multiple times at Mac Application board.

There is no answer to it. It has pros and cons, this is a con for sure.

yeah it saves 0.01 sec when loading js, while it needs extra 2 sec to find the website you are looking for.... (my thoughts)
 
Safari causes more headaches than anything other browser (Chrome, Firefox, IE8) on the machines that I installed it on. Back to a real browser......

Like you I've had some strange screens. One was a reply screen to a local organization. It said that I was using either a very old browser or one that did not meet browser standards. It told me to use IE8. I did not get this screen when using FireFox 3.
 
Hum if you've installed iTunes on Windows the software update DOES NOT ask you to install Safari. The only way it'll show Safari 4 as an update is if you have safari 3 installed. And since it is quite simple to not download the update ( a simple check ) there is no way that more than a dozen people downloaded Safari 4 without meaning to do so. Plus no regular windows user is using Safari. You have to go a bit off the beaten path in order to install Safari on windows.

This is false, I've never installed Safari but just having iTunes/QuickTime will cause it to check for updates and it tries to install Safari by default there. It's quite annoying. I'm sure many Windows iTunes users didn't care and just let it install Safari even though they may never use it. And since they had Safari it then upgraded them.

Apple is definitely doing some shady stuff to boost their numbers here.

Here's a complaint about it: http://slashdot.org/story/08/03/22/1536250/Mozilla-CEO-Objects-To-Safari-Auto-Install?art_pos=8
 
Awesome! Safari 4 (and especially 4, not 3) is the fastest and the best browser I've ever used.

dL
 
Screw Safari 4, I installed it and half of my widgets freaked out and stopped loading. I did a repair permissions, reboots, reset of the P-RAM, trashed some pref files, reinstalled said widgets, and still it wasn't fixed. So I used Time Machine and I am back on Safari 3 until this crap gets sorted out. It's obviously not far from being "out of beta."
 
I like the speed of the new Safari, but Jesus are Apple ignorant when it comes to browsers. I have to use Onyx to make sure it opens links consistently in tabs not windows. It won't open my previous tabs by default when I open it, and when I do go to History to reopen them, it doesn't remember the history within those tabs. I can't click back to see the previous page, because as far as Safari is concerned, there is no page to go back to.

Just as other browsers have features that Safari doesn't have, Safari has features that other browser don't have. Live with the fact that in every piece of software you will be missing features that you would like to have or that are available in other software.

There is only one piece of software that tries to do everything for its type of software. It is called Windows and it sucks at it.
 
I wish I had the option to have the tabs on top, even if they defaulted to the bottom. I don't use my mouse to select tabs, usually just the keyboard so it wouldn't have been very awkward.
 
Firefox is still my default, although I am using Safari 4 on Win7 at the moment. As for those who are reporting weird crashes and glitches with S4, I'm just shaking my head...:confused: No bugs, never crashed, none, not once, not at all, never, never at all...etc. :D It's been completely 100% stable on both sides of the Boot Camp fence.

And yes, it is faster than IE.

You scoff at MS monopoly, but where is the competition? Not Apple, so long as they continue to restrict their OS to select hardware.

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Sehnsucht I know you think you're clever for linking that picture, but in reality a 12 year old can do it. I bet you think the image is real too.
 
Just as other browsers have features that Safari doesn't have, Safari has features that other browser don't have. Live with the fact that in every piece of software you will be missing features that you would like to have or that are available in other software.

There is only one piece of software that tries to do everything for its type of software. It is called Windows and it sucks at it.
No sorry, Safari has no features that I can't find in other browsers. And please, Windows doesn't try to do everything, you must be getting mixed up with a Mac which comes pre-installed with the iLife bollocks that I won't need, Time Machine I won't use, iCal, iChat, etc. All this talk on this forum about MS bloat, when I run MonoLingual on my iBook I save 3GB from multi-language help files.

If Windows is "trying to do everything" its because it has no competition, it has a far wider range of people to support than OSX.
 
Heavy and slow program - more resources are used and the response time is slow, especially for additional features like the Topsites page.

Safari 4 is the fastest browser on either the Mac or PC by a wide margin. I tested against Mac FF and Windows FF and Chrome. Safari 4 was clearly faster than any of them on /., ars, here and my banking site.

Complicated interface - the address bar is a mess, combining too many buttons. The tabs are bigger so fewer pages could be opened simultaneously.

My address bar has two buttons and two fields. It has less buttons than any other browser I have.

Poor ergonomics - there's no more a progress bar, but a nice message saying "Downloading". I want ergonomics back![/QUOTE]

Ergonomics is the study of the physical arrangement of objects in real space in relation to the human body.

Maury
 
Firefox is still my default, although I am using Safari 4 on Win7 at the moment. As for those who are reporting weird crashes and glitches with S4, I'm just shaking my head...:confused: No bugs, never crashed, none, not once, not at all, never, never at all...etc. :D It's been completely 100% stable on both sides of the Boot Camp fence.

And yes, it is faster than IE.
Safari 4 is solid under Windows short of a few rendering quirks but it's still a bit instant quit prone under OS X. You'll go back to the page only to have it work just fine.
 
No sorry, Safari has no features that I can't find in other browsers. And please, Windows doesn't try to do everything, you must be getting mixed up with a Mac which comes pre-installed with the iLife bollocks that I won't need, Time Machine I won't use, iCal, iChat, etc. All this talk on this forum about MS bloat, when I run MonoLingual on my iBook I save 3GB from multi-language help files.

If Windows is "trying to do everything" its because it has no competition, it has a far wider range of people to support than OSX.

You are mixing some things up here. Just chuck the iLife programs in the waste bin.. No problem. Do the same with Time Machine.. Also no problem. And in addition. Having iLife and not using it doesn't slow down my machine. But each windows program that is installed on a windows machine and is not used does...

Try deleting notepad in windows or the media player and you will have a much harder time.

Concerning Monolingual: the additional languages don't slow your machine down, and 3Gb cost only a few cents nowadays. The added convenience of having all languages for most of the user population are more valuable than those few that juggle the last few Gb on their machines. Many of the user population live in Europe where we regularly switch between languages.
 
You are mixing some things up here. Just chuck the iLife programs in the waste bin.. No problem. Do the same with Time Machine.. Also no problem. And in addition. Having iLife and not using it doesn't slow down my machine. But each windows program that is installed on a windows machine and is not used does...

Try deleting notepad in windows or the media player and you will have a much harder time.

Concerning Monolingual: the additional languages don't slow your machine down, and 3Gb cost only a few cents nowadays. The added convenience of having all languages for most of the user population are more valuable than those few that juggle the last few Gb on their machines. Many of the user population live in Europe where we regularly switch between languages.

All these things are obvious, I am just commenting on the bloat that is a default install on a Mac. Having a program installed and not used on a Windows system is no more harmful than on OSX.

I am sure you do switch between languages, but between Chinese? Iranian? But now you are using the same logic Windows does, the extra bloat in Windows is there because its better to include that than have lots of users asking where it is.
 
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