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I typically use Safari... but it really annoys me that when Safari has been open for several hours and I go back to either YouTube videos or videos from other sites... the video's are 'hung'. Can't get them to do anything. I then have to quit Safari and restart. Works perfectly again... until a couple hours pass... then same thing! Searched and searched and tried every suggestion offered... but same results. So... I get frustrated and go back to Opera. I would probably use Opera all the time if I could figure out a way to have it automatically pop up the Authentication Codes that my financial institutions text me in order to get to my accounts. Is Safari the only browser that shows them? Thanks!
 
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I typically use Safari... but it really annoys me that when Safari has been open for several hours and I go back to either YouTube videos or videos from other sites... the video's are 'hung'. Can't get them to do anything. I then have to quit Safari and restart. Works perfectly again... until a couple hours pass... then same thing! Searched and searched and tried every suggestion offered... but same results. So... I get frustrated and go back to Opera. I would probably use Opera all the time if I could figure out a way to have it automatically pop up the Authentication Codes that my financial institutions text me in order to get to my accounts. Is Safari the only browser that shows them? Thanks!

The You-Tube site is set up and monitored by Google. It is not just a normal web page as you would write it. Safari (macOS) sometimes reports "exceptional load" for me (despite necessary extensions installed).
Perhaps Safari is also having a hard time with VP8/VP9 codec, since Google has snuck out of the H264/H265 industry standard.
My advice... maybe VideoDuke will also help you. Perhaps you then can continue to stay happy at Safari.

On macOS, Safari is the only browser can accept authentication codes. I love it for that reason too.
 
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I tested Chrome, Brave, Firefox, Edge and Safari in the last year and ended up choosing Chrome again.
In benchmarks Safari is faster than Chrome, but it's not actually the truth if you use an adblocker.

I tried Safari with Adguard/Wipr and it is slower in the loading, especially in the scrolling while media and pictures are shown. On the other hand, without extensions, it is fast as much as benchmarks claim.
Chrome with ublock origin maintains its speed. Ublock is the best adblocker that deletes every single ads on the web without affecting resources, it is open source, community open. You can't go back
With Safari, whatever adblock I tried, I still have click-ads in new tabs, and a slower experience.

Safari APIs are the ones to blame here, they just don't have the same power of the other engines.
For this reason Safari is out of the games for me.

In addition, Safari in the two fingers swipe to go back is slow and glitchy, it reloads always the page, it gets stuck on a white page, or the animation works but it returns back on the page you were already watching.
Try to swipe back in any other browser and see how fast it is. It doesn't lose the previous page in the cache.
Try also to pinch in-out to zoom on some websites. Safari is just glitchy, the website will react strange. On Chrome the pinching is always better.
Safari is also less reliable than Chrome. In Chrome tabs remain there for hours, no crash, no reload, no freezes, the browser updates on the next restart seamlessly to have the latest security update. It gives the feeling of a very stable and tested software. Safari is no longer like this, from a long time.
With Chrome if I have a website that I want separated from browser I'll just install the WPA, nowadays apps are WPAs themselves. For example Outlook adds an icon in the Apps/Dock with its own window, without the heavy desktop app which I may not need.
Battery on Chrome lasts little bit less because it gives better and more functions. Not as much as people on the web claim, Chrome improved a lot. Probably only a 20% of difference.
Chrome uses also less ram and cpu than brave, edge and firefox. Try with the activity monitor.

-Firefox with ublock works really well, but the engine is slower and consumes more resources. Battery seems to be worse and temperatures as well.

-Brave is probably the best after chrome. Their adblocker is good, like 97/100 compared to ublock, but still ublock has better advanced functionality and is a little bit faster in loading.
If you want to use brave I would just turn off their shields and install ublock. But at this point, just use chrome which has better benchmarks and doesn't have crypto advertisement.

-Edge is a very good browser, too bloated. All those menus of things make it look heavy.
Slower than Chrome in benchmarks but acceptable if you want its bloat, or you just don't want to use google.
 
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To the point - best upgrade that Apple could make to Safari is to put in some type of memory management tool that is easy to use and help avoid the ridiculous amount of RAM some pages can consume. The latter reaches into the realm of the absurd and a shame that Apple ignores the obvious.
 
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Safari also has a built-in translation feature. Some .cn web pages work. Others do not. The Chinese authorities block. Use VPN. Even if you live in America.
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亲爱的robo萝卜。
Safari也有一个内置的翻译功能。有些网页可以使用。其他的则不行。中国当局封锁。使用VPN。即使你住在美国。
Is there any reason to use VPN with if you are using a downloaded translation language?
 
To the point - best upgrade that Apple could make to Safari is to put in some type of memory management tool that is easy to use and help avoid the ridiculous amount of RAM some pages can consume. The latter reaches into the realm of the absurd and a shame that Apple ignores the obvious.
Develop menu, use "Empty caches" wait a few seconds. Safari on the latest version very rare to see a java script that causes excessive memory still. I can say I used to see that a few months back, not for awhile.
 
I actually miss the old IE browser that ran on OS9. Loved how bookmarks were done, and the color theme you could choose based on your mood. I actually booted up and old computer and saw that you can still somewhat see a few websites (of course the vast majority show nothing/crash).
Did you ask Bob if it was OK?
 
Definitely agree! Most of the older logos really had a charm and beauty about them.
But over the last decade most marketing/advertising visual language and logo's have been intentionally simplified.
Next we will see companies slowly start making more complex designs again so complete the cycle 😂
"Simplified"or "flattened"- a relic of when modem network throughput was a huge issue - there is no excuse any more for flat images/iconorgraphics other than a style choice - they could be ray traced now given their pixel footprint and cpu/gpu/network speeds - I mean shadows/highlights by a live time updated sun position. like. And hands up here for like, a "live" neon sign display for an icon?
 
Ummmm. Is there any reason NOT to use a VPN?

Unfortunately yes, e.g. page translators like Google's https://translate.google.com/translate then often don't run.
Furthermore: Your VPN server address is important because the location of your VPN affects your internet speed, privacy, and security, as well as the range of content you can access online. Whether you use a VPN to access restricted content or avoid spyware, the location of your VPN server is critical.
The subject is very complex, I myself also have little detailed knowledge, unfortunately.
 
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It's used to troubleshoot web sites that don't work correctly with safari. It allows you to simulate another type of browser by changing the User Agent or UA String in the Safari web browser for MacOS.
Does Apple keep it synced - not only with Safari but the alt browsers?
 
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I wonder about that too, because the effort would be really huge.
Not necessarily if a cooperation protocol was in place. All the others want to get into Apple market so what not? And it's likely reciprocated. WebKit presents bit of an issue but workarounds abound.
 
Safari is always getting snappier!

I do really like Safari and the new look at feel of it (that I think was a mistake to make an option you have to manually change at the last second.... but alas).... but it's not my go to. It's always on the cusp of glory but too many wonky things happen with a large number of web sites (endless scrolling when a page ends, display issues, incompatibility with drag and drop features of sites, and web-based software does not like Safari at all). Perhaps one day I'll be able to ditch Chrome.... but there are also things that Chrome just does better... memory not being one of them.
 
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Is there any reason to use VPN with if you are using a downloaded translation language?

Ummmm. Is there any reason NOT to use a VPN?

Unfortunately yes, e.g. page translators like Google's https://translate.google.com/translate then often don't run.
Furthermore: Your VPN server address is important because the location of your VPN affects your internet speed, privacy, and security, as well as the range of content you can access online. Whether you use a VPN to access restricted content or avoid spyware, the location of your VPN server is critical.
The subject is very complex, I myself also have little detailed knowledge, unfortunately.
Most people don't know much about China, building or using VPNs privately is illegal, and of course we can't use Google, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Tiktok, etc. There are also some exceptions, such as you can modify hosts and other methods to access GitHub, even if the snail-like speed we will not care, can use it is content.
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可能大多数人对中国不是很了解,在我们这私自搭建或使用VPN是明令禁止的违法行为,当然我们也无法使用Google、Twitter、Facebook、YouTube、Instagram、Tiktok等。也有一些例外,比如可以修改hosts等方法访问github,就算蜗牛般的速度我们也不会在乎,能用就知足了。
 
That’s the thing, it can’t be truly fixed anymore. Yeah almost all of the annoying crap can be turned off…until the next update, when things get switched back on again and here comes another full screen takeover with another puzzle for how to get it to go away without all the settings getting hijacked again.

Edit: I’m talking mostly about Windows here as I have to deal with it all the time for work. It is slightly less obnoxious on Mac.
I haven't tried the Mac version, but you're right about the Windows version. I've made it "acceptable" to use, but it's definitely still not perfect.
 
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Anyone else remember Safari on Windows?
Dropping it made testing & debugging web apps on Safari & Mobile Safari more expensive and less accessible. Apple's users have a worse web experience as a result.
 
I am getting constant out of memory or low power messages on safari since getting my Mac Studio. How can it result in a low power message, its a desk top. Either safari or the studio, which I do not love, are to blame. either way right now it is the worst I have ever seen this programmer perform. also often have to go to another browser to get a page to work properly or fill out a form. Just more lax apple stuff under the watch of the money grabber in chief.
 
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Just in time for the anniversary, WebKit now supports the ES2018 feature of lookbehind assertions in regex 🎉 it sounds dull and boring but in reality could cause web pages to just break with a Javascript error like this one. All other major browsers have had this for years and Webkit finally implemented it... still waiting for it to show up in the Safari Tech Preview build though...

Hopefully Apple devotes the resources to WebKit and Safari to maintain timely parity with the ECMAscript standard (no matter how annoyingly frequent they are :)
 
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