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Safari Turns 20 Today: 'Fastest Web Browser Ever Created for the Mac'
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Yes, but when I have an issue I turn off enable content blockers and block the app itself and still have the issues
Speed is certainly important, but I would argue there are a lot of other aspects in a browser that also matter, such as security and privacy, customizability (extensions, etc), and features.
Safari is my primary browser. Can't believe it is 20 years since it was launched.
That doesn’t always work, it more remedied by uninstalling and testing safari in just private mode without these types of extensions installed.
While they work with some MacOS and safari versions, they can break as newer MacOS and Safari versions are released. All you got to do is look at comments from past beta releases and see someone say Safari is having severe issues and see how they resolved their issues.
Both Safari and Firefox perform pretty decently in private mode with questionable URLs.
You can also test in safe mode first before uninstalling.
Safari is indeed the fastest and most beautiful browser. It has a minimal design that can shrink to just a small top bar when browsing sites. Unlike the most other browsers that still have a clunky tab-design.
I don’t get it why people complain about Safari when indeed it’s the best on Mac since Apple can make it more efficient for their own cpu.
I don’t get it why people complain about Safari when indeed it’s the best on Mac since Apple can make it more efficient for their own cpu.
Agreed. But the main point of the article was speed, so my comment was focused on that.
True. I had to spend some time "fixing" the bloat before I could actually use it without frustration. But once I did, I found it to be a solid browser.
I have tried other browsers but always come back to Safari, now with 1Blocker.
It's fast enough for me, works with the sites I visit, is energy efficient and integrated with the Apple ecosystem.
Firefox is okay too and doesn't draw more battery than Safari for me.
The company behind Brave have questionable business tactics I think (ad replacement, bitcoin).
It's fast enough for me, works with the sites I visit, is energy efficient and integrated with the Apple ecosystem.
Firefox is okay too and doesn't draw more battery than Safari for me.
The company behind Brave have questionable business tactics I think (ad replacement, bitcoin).
Quite funny that Safari became Internet Explorer of these days. Other browsers are way ahead. In point of view of web development. Apple is so lazy to adopt new standards that it's not even funny anymore.
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I never really notice any speed differences between the browsers. I think 90% of the time the difference is in the microseconds. I tend to prefer Safari Technology Preview on my MacBook over any other browser as the pinch to zoom is smoother and more responsive compared to Firefox and Chrome.
The only thing I‘ve noticed Safari doesn’t do well (and it’s a super niche situation) is loading a really huge text dump with HTML formatting. Safari will lock up while Firefox will load it in seconds. I try to avoid Chrome unless I absolutely have to use it, as there’s too much spying from Google there.
The only thing I‘ve noticed Safari doesn’t do well (and it’s a super niche situation) is loading a really huge text dump with HTML formatting. Safari will lock up while Firefox will load it in seconds. I try to avoid Chrome unless I absolutely have to use it, as there’s too much spying from Google there.
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I like to use Safari's private browsing mode, use Chrome when debugging the program, and the extended web page translation is very convenient when reading foreign language materials, but on October 04, 2022, Google Translate quit China (sad), and then downloaded Edge because it comes with translation tools. So I now use the corresponding browser as needed.
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喜欢使用Safari的无痕浏览模式,程序开发调试时使用Chrome,扩展的网页翻译阅读外文资料时非常方便,但是2022年10月04日Google翻译退出中国(难过),然后下载了Edge因为它自带翻译工具。所以我现在都是根据需要来使用对应的浏览器。
I like to use Safari's private browsing mode, use Chrome when debugging the program, and the extended web page translation is very convenient when reading foreign language materials, but on October 04, 2022, Google Translate quit China (sad), and then downloaded Edge because it comes with translation tools. So I now use the corresponding browser as needed.
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喜欢使用Safari的无痕浏览模式,程序开发调试时使用Chrome,扩展的网页翻译阅读外文资料时非常方便,但是2022年10月04日Google翻译退出中国(难过),然后下载了Edge因为它自带翻译工具。所以我现在都是根据需要来使用对应的浏览器。
The one where half of all websites told you they were best viewed using Internet Explorer?
I do wish Apple would add to the languages available for translation in Safari.
Definitely need the Scandinavians, Welsh and Greek - and I'm sure many more.
Definitely need the Scandinavians, Welsh and Greek - and I'm sure many more.
I love Safari.
Most use the browser that is advised by friends or ordered in the job. In my youth it was similar for me, today I have other considerations. Everyone will have their own arguments, but given the large number of browsers (cf. chart below), one should know where to swim and why.
Simplicity, reliability, security
I have tried many browsers since 1995, first Netscape Navigator Gold in the university's computing center. I loved the browser because you could also create web pages in WYSISYG, which was new as opposed to just html editors. That was nice of Netscape because it brought you closer to the Internet.
Then in 1997 I was able to use the Mac version on my first Power Macintosh at a research institute, which had some teething problems at first.
In the browser war (1995 to 1998), Microsoft's browser system integration had suddenly put Netscape to rest, although the Internet Explorer was always considered very insecure due to unclean CSS and DOM implementation. State services in Europe warned of the presumably partly consciously implemented security gaps. Later, these were also partially leaked in America. The development team of the Internet Exploiter seemed to quickly lose its accompanying competence in the giant company Microsoft and so all development approaches fragmented similar to what is known from Microsoft's operating systems.
Microsoft, in order to avoid a heavy fine, had had to make an antitrust commitment to loosen up overly tight system integration (Edge is currently being similarly criticized again).
Firefox, Opera, etc. were the longed-for and popular alternatives of many students who had spurned the Internet Exploiter since 2003 and preferred the Mozilla core. Chrome was disliked by many from the start, as they have since realized what datamining really means (Google's particularly impressive expertise). In the meantime, there was also good traffic checking software, those who are unimpressed still use Chrome and co. with enthusiasm.
Safari was a pure browser from the beginning, without IRC, BitTorrent or similar connectivity options. This is also in line with my philosophy that you don't always have to pack everything into one piece of software, because then it quickly becomes confusing. This has been somewhat loosened up by extensions, such as ad blockers, but they always work nicely in the background. I like that.
Of all the browsers, I can manage the settings in Safari just fine even when I'm half asleep.
When I'm faced with Edge, Chrome or Firefox on the work PC, I quickly become a bit more insecure, as important settings often disappear into some submenu. I detest such hurdles, because I know in Safari that you don't have to do it that way.
When Safari became HTML6-optimized, I was very happy. A standard was implemented, and the days of sectarians fighting exhausting defensive wars (Adobe with Flash) seem to be over. I admire Apple's HTML implementation on its Apple.com website. Safari's resource consumption also correlates with Apple hardware, making the browser so pleasantly fast on all devices. And I honestly don't care if a browser is 5ms faster, my quality of life doesn't depend on it.
Also, the Bockmark sync in Apple's secure cloud now works lightning fast, which is also important to me when I switch between my Apple devices. And password replacement is coming soon. I'm glad Apple Safari is always evolving without artificially bloating it with gimmicks.
The security updates that Apple is currently rolling out discreetly in the background also affect Safari and, again, provide me with a safe browsing experience.
I love Safari. Congratulations, Apple!
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Most use the browser that is advised by friends or ordered in the job. In my youth it was similar for me, today I have other considerations. Everyone will have their own arguments, but given the large number of browsers (cf. chart below), one should know where to swim and why.
Simplicity, reliability, security
I have tried many browsers since 1995, first Netscape Navigator Gold in the university's computing center. I loved the browser because you could also create web pages in WYSISYG, which was new as opposed to just html editors. That was nice of Netscape because it brought you closer to the Internet.
Then in 1997 I was able to use the Mac version on my first Power Macintosh at a research institute, which had some teething problems at first.
In the browser war (1995 to 1998), Microsoft's browser system integration had suddenly put Netscape to rest, although the Internet Explorer was always considered very insecure due to unclean CSS and DOM implementation. State services in Europe warned of the presumably partly consciously implemented security gaps. Later, these were also partially leaked in America. The development team of the Internet Exploiter seemed to quickly lose its accompanying competence in the giant company Microsoft and so all development approaches fragmented similar to what is known from Microsoft's operating systems.
Microsoft, in order to avoid a heavy fine, had had to make an antitrust commitment to loosen up overly tight system integration (Edge is currently being similarly criticized again).
Firefox, Opera, etc. were the longed-for and popular alternatives of many students who had spurned the Internet Exploiter since 2003 and preferred the Mozilla core. Chrome was disliked by many from the start, as they have since realized what datamining really means (Google's particularly impressive expertise). In the meantime, there was also good traffic checking software, those who are unimpressed still use Chrome and co. with enthusiasm.
Safari was a pure browser from the beginning, without IRC, BitTorrent or similar connectivity options. This is also in line with my philosophy that you don't always have to pack everything into one piece of software, because then it quickly becomes confusing. This has been somewhat loosened up by extensions, such as ad blockers, but they always work nicely in the background. I like that.
Of all the browsers, I can manage the settings in Safari just fine even when I'm half asleep.
When I'm faced with Edge, Chrome or Firefox on the work PC, I quickly become a bit more insecure, as important settings often disappear into some submenu. I detest such hurdles, because I know in Safari that you don't have to do it that way.
When Safari became HTML6-optimized, I was very happy. A standard was implemented, and the days of sectarians fighting exhausting defensive wars (Adobe with Flash) seem to be over. I admire Apple's HTML implementation on its Apple.com website. Safari's resource consumption also correlates with Apple hardware, making the browser so pleasantly fast on all devices. And I honestly don't care if a browser is 5ms faster, my quality of life doesn't depend on it.
Also, the Bockmark sync in Apple's secure cloud now works lightning fast, which is also important to me when I switch between my Apple devices. And password replacement is coming soon. I'm glad Apple Safari is always evolving without artificially bloating it with gimmicks.
The security updates that Apple is currently rolling out discreetly in the background also affect Safari and, again, provide me with a safe browsing experience.
I love Safari. Congratulations, Apple!
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Dear robo萝卜
Safari also has a built-in translation feature. Some .cn web pages work. Others do not. The Chinese authorities block. Use VPN. Even if you live in America.
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亲爱的robo萝卜。
Safari也有一个内置的翻译功能。有些网页可以使用。其他的则不行。中国当局封锁。使用VPN。即使你住在美国。
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Does anyone remember the URL for the Safari developer?
The funniest thing is that it is developed by 1 dude alone and he is somehow a genius and has a blog where he also chats with people and shows his changes/updates to the browser. I guess he must still be around?
The funniest thing is that it is developed by 1 dude alone and he is somehow a genius and has a blog where he also chats with people and shows his changes/updates to the browser. I guess he must still be around?
That’s the thing, it can’t be truly fixed anymore. Yeah almost all of the annoying crap can be turned off…until the next update, when things get switched back on again and here comes another full screen takeover with another puzzle for how to get it to go away without all the settings getting hijacked again.
Edit: I’m talking mostly about Windows here as I have to deal with it all the time for work. It is slightly less obnoxious on Mac.
Dear Morgenland:
Thank you for reminding me, I just tried to use Safari for web translation does have this feature, it may be that I haven't paid attention to Safari's changelog for too long, I just queried that the built-in web page translation function of Safari is from version 14.0 (released on September 16, 2020) to test use, which is an excellent feature. Thanks again.
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谢谢您的提醒，我刚刚尝试使用Safari进行网页翻译确实拥有此功能，可能是我太久没有留意Safari的更新日志，我刚刚查询到Safari内置的网页翻译功能是从14.0版本(发布于2020年9月16日)开始测试使用，这是一个优秀的功能。再次感谢。