Samsung Again Teases Foldable Smartphone Ahead of February 20 Event

[ROGmaster]

I can understand the purpose

Really? That's weird taking in consideration how little information we actually have regarding Samsung's foldable phone.
So at the very best you have a very small picture regarding the purpose of these new types of phones, but I'm sure if Apple were the ones that would release them you would have a way more positive aproach regarding the subject of foldable phones(but hey I'm also sure you will deny this).

 

[Markdc]

Once i used flip phone by Motorola..let us see what new features this new phone brings

 

[ROGmaster]

so many things wrong with this.

1. All OLED screens are not the same. During the iPhone 5 days, OLED screens at the time weren't color accurate, there wasn't wide color support, poor color saturation.

During those times LCD also weren't very color accurate.
And Samsung phones had even in those days more Color Modes with one of them close to sRGB calibration. This is a piece of information which was always ignored with passion by their critics.
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https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208191
QUOTE: "The Super Retina display in iPhone X, iPhone XS, and iPhone XS Max was engineered by Apple to meet our incredibly high standards."

100% proven wrong. Feel free to reply but I'm not going to read. You're wasting too much of my time.

SMH

Honestly that sounds like exaggerated marketing.
I remember that a guy from The Verge mention he asked Apple what was their involvement regarding the creation of the OLED screen in the iphone X and they refused any comment, the only words they presented were: engineered or designed which according to him and the rest of the tech press present are way to ambiguous and don't allow anybody to understand Apple's actual involvement regarding this matter.

 

[farewelwilliams]

During those times LCD also weren't very color accurate.
And Samsung phones had even in those days more Color Modes with one of them close to sRGB calibration. This is a piece of information which was always ignored with passion by their critics.

http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm

"While Apple has clearly made a big effort in getting the Color Gamut very accurate for the new iPad and iPhone 5, Samsung has not bothered to calibrate the Color Gamut on any of its OLED displays, so they are wildly inaccurate and produce inaccurate and over saturated colors. The Color Gamut is not only much larger than the Standard Color Gamut, which leads to distorted and exaggerated colors, but its Color Gamut is quite lopsided, with Green being a lot more saturated than either Red or Blue, which adds a Green color caste to many images. "

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Honestly that sounds like exaggerated marketing.
I remember that a guy from The Verge mention he asked Apple what was their involvement regarding the creation of the OLED screen in the iphone X and they refused any comment, the only words they presented were: engineered or designed which according to him and the rest of the tech press present are way to ambiguous and don't allow anybody to understand Apple's actual involvement regarding this matter.

In terms of design, Apple had to curve the corners as well as design the Face ID cut out. In terms of engineering, they spent a lot of time bending the part of the screen where the display connector is to hide the chin. It's no easy feat to pull off and nothing really existed at the time (Samsung's infinity edge isn't the same type of tech).

So to say that Apple didn't have a substantial impact on the design or the engineering of the OLED panel and somehow was able to pull off the look of the iPhone X with off the shelf components by Samsung is absolutely false.

Saying that Apple refuses to talk about the details doesn't mean much. They rarely go in detail on the technology, so it's common that they won't discuss it. I mean, it's obvious that Apple engineered the A-chips but you don't see them discussing the technical details either.

 

[DNichter]

Really? That's weird taking in consideration how little information we actually have regarding Samsung's foldable phone.
So at the very best you have a very small picture regarding the purpose of these new types of phones, but I'm sure if Apple were the ones that would release them you would have a way more positive aproach regarding the subject of foldable phones(but hey I'm also sure you will deny this).

Yes, I can understand the purpose a larger screen device folding into a smaller screen device. It's not that difficult for one to grasp. What matters to me in this scenario, whether it comes from Apple or anyone else, is performance, battery life, quality, OS optimization, and app/developer support. Currently, there is very minimal support for Android tablets - I would be surprised if they all of a sudden jumped on a new form factor. I'd like to be proven wrong though.
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Yeah of course, I'm not surprised.
There's also no need to try to insinuate that Apple is wise and that's why they are supposedly "waiting", that that's the best course of action and that other companies are launching something just to be first.

Well you aren't really making any sort of point. I don't see why it's a problem for you or anyone that I don't see a ton of value in devices like this in its current form. I am fine waiting it out because I am content with the tech products I use today for mobile and desk use. That's really up to you if you want to believe that Apple, the largest tech company in the world, isn't already experimenting with similar devices to this. Going by their history though, they will wait until the tech is a bit more mature, kinks are worked out, and they line up proper developer support through WWDC.

 

[ROGmaster]

Yes, I can understand the purpose a larger screen device folding into a smaller screen device. It's not that difficult for one to grasp. What matters to me in this scenario, whether it comes from Apple or anyone else, is performance, battery life, quality, OS optimization, and app/developer support. Currently, there is very minimal support for Android tablets - I would be surprised if they all of a sudden jumped on a new form factor. I'd like to be proven wrong though.

Yeah, you don't look very well informed at all so its hard for me to believe most of what you write.
Anyway take a look here, it should definitely help you better grasp this hole foldable phone thing.
https://twitter.com/AndroidDev/status/1060234716433924097
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Well you aren't really making any sort of point. I don't see why it's a problem for you or anyone that I don't see a ton of value in devices like this in its current form.

Yes I am and it's even turning into a comedy. LoL
And I never wrote anything about the value you see or don't see but I know why you feel the need to emphasize this exact thing.

 

[DNichter]

Yeah, you don't look very well informed at all so its hard for me to believe most of what you write.
Anyway take a look here, it should definitely help you better grasp this hole foldable phone thing.
https://twitter.com/AndroidDev/status/1060234716433924097
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Yes I am and it's even turning into a comedy. LoL
And I never wrote anything about the value you see or don't see but I know why you feel the need to emphasize this exact thing.

I've seen the same thing. There have been tools to create Android tablet apps for years too and nobody does. If the ecosystem all of a sudden blows up for such a device, that would be cool for the people who prefer Android, but it still won't resonate much with me for a bunch of reasons.

I am still lost on your overall point. You seem to just be quoting me over and over because we have a difference of opinion. I get that you are really excited for this device, and that's totally fine - it's just not for me.

 

[Sevanw]

http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm

"While Apple has clearly made a big effort in getting the Color Gamut very accurate for the new iPad and iPhone 5, Samsung has not bothered to calibrate the Color Gamut on any of its OLED displays, so they are wildly inaccurate and produce inaccurate and over saturated colors. The Color Gamut is not only much larger than the Standard Color Gamut, which leads to distorted and exaggerated colors, but its Color Gamut is quite lopsided, with Green being a lot more saturated than either Red or Blue, which adds a Green color caste to many images. "





In terms of design, Apple had to curve the corners as well as design the Face ID cut out. In terms of engineering, they spent a lot of time bending the part of the screen where the display connector is to hide the chin. It's no easy feat to pull off and nothing really existed at the time (Samsung's infinity edge isn't the same type of tech).

So to say that Apple didn't have a substantial impact on the design or the engineering of the OLED panel and somehow was able to pull off the look of the iPhone X with off the shelf components by Samsung is absolutely false.

Saying that Apple refuses to talk about the details doesn't mean much. They rarely go in detail on the technology, so it's common that they won't discuss it. I mean, it's obvious that Apple engineered the A-chips but you don't see them discussing the technical details either.

When reviewing the display in the iPhone X, DisplayMate also says:

First we need to congratulate Samsung Display for developing and manufacturing the outstanding OLED display hardware in the iPhone X.

Bottom line, if Samsung's OLED tech doesn't exist, Apple has no amazing OLED panel to calibrate.

 

[9081094]

so many things wrong with this.

1. All OLED screens are not the same. During the iPhone 5 days, OLED screens at the time weren't color accurate, there wasn't wide color support, poor color saturation.
2. Apple never said they invented OLED. When they introduced the first OLED iPhone, they were comparing traditional OLED screens to the OLED screen they're using.
3. At the time, OLED couldn't be made on the scale that Apple wanted since Samsung owns all the equipment to produce OLED screens. They have a monopoly, and Samsung prioritized their phones to get OLED screens over their clients.


If Apple were to ever come up with an iPhone that includes folding tech, of course they would be talking about it in a keynote. Why wouldn't they?

Apple isn't manufacturing or inventing anything. All they do is make little tweaks to existing hardware. The only thing they have done with the OLED is having it's own color gamut range. Same with the camera lenses. They are using Sony tech for that (the cheaper ones). That's one of the reasons when Apple introduces a new model iPhone, competitors often beat it to market with it's own offerings.

Everybody can copy and design an iPhone except the processor. All parts are free to use.

The biggest scam is that Apple is charging the max for those glued together parts, while many competitors offer better components at more affordable prices.

Apple will never beat Samsung or LG in screen tech or folding techniques because Apple is using their inventions.

Liquid display or retina display are marketing terms only.

 

[ROGmaster]

http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm

"While Apple has clearly made a big effort in getting the Color Gamut very accurate for the new iPad and iPhone 5, Samsung has not bothered to calibrate the Color Gamut on any of its OLED displays, so they are wildly inaccurate and produce inaccurate and over saturated colors. The Color Gamut is not only much larger than the Standard Color Gamut, which leads to distorted and exaggerated colors, but its Color Gamut is quite lopsided, with Green being a lot more saturated than either Red or Blue, which adds a Green color caste to many images. "

Well you clearly didn't properly read what you copy/pasted
With the S3 Displaymate didn't test the different Color Profiles the phone had(like they did with the S4 for example).
So yeah my point stand high and bright.

In terms of design, Apple had to curve the corners as well as design the Face ID cut out. In terms of engineering, they spent a lot of time bending the part of the screen where the display connector is to hide the chin. It's no easy feat to pull off and nothing really existed at the time (Samsung's infinity edge isn't the same type of tech).

So the notch. A trivial design every display OEM can do.
Bending is only possible because Samsung OLED display is flexible.
Anyway I was hoping for something with more substance. What you described are simply modifications to Samsung's already excellent smartphone OLED tech.

So to say that Apple didn't have a substantial impact on the design or the engineering of the OLED panel and somehow was able to pull off the look of the iPhone X with off the shelf components by Samsung is absolutely false.

Actually taking in consideration what you wrote above it's quite accurate.

Saying that Apple refuses to talk about the details doesn't mean much. They rarely go in detail on the technology, so it's common that they won't discuss it. I mean, it's obvious that Apple engineered the A-chips but you don't see them discussing the technical details either.

Silicon CPUs are different. It's not that hard to figure out what has apple did with their design.

 

[MRrainer]

Still don't see how such a form-factor would be mechanically viable for much longer than the presentation.

I can't even imagine how it is supposed to fold?
Is it like a piece of paper or is it like a flip-phone? Or a laptop?
Or are there ultra-strong neodym-magnets on the sides and you can sort-of stick together to parts without hinges?

I'll have to physically see that before I can believe this thing is not pure hype.

It's true, though, that as almost all manufacturing know-how is now in Asia (and there in China, mostly), a lot of research is now done there, too and it will be very hard for any Western company to come up with anything radically new, like what a lot of people somehow expect Apple to do.

Doesn't mean I want Apple to just give up.

It's nice that there is an alternative to the ad-supported mess of Android and I'll continue to buy the products as I see fit.

I don't really own many Apple products - and I keep them for very long, usually. But just because I don't have the need for an iPad doesn't mean nobody else has either.

 

[farewelwilliams]

Well you clearly didn't properly read what you copy/pasted

With the S3 Displaymate didn't test the different Color Profiles the phone had(like they did with the S4 for example).

So yeah my point stand high and bright.

So you want them to test the “Natural Movie” color profile? You do know that it the color accuracy would be even worse off against the standard Rec709 if they did that, right? Haha that is such a bad counter argument. Your point is quite moot.

So the notch. A trivial design every display OEM can do.

Bending is only possible because Samsung OLED display is flexible.

Anyway I was hoping for something with more substance. What you described are simply modifications to Samsung's already excellent smartphone OLED tech.

No other phone got rid of the chin. It’s a combination of bending the OLED and engineering a new bendable display connector that’s part of the OLED screen (go study the tear down) which has its technical challenges. Samsung only has bending of the OLED on the sides which doesn’t affect the display connector (therefore you have a chin). Go study some hardware engineering.

And before the iPhone X notch, only closest phone was the Essential phone which was more of a cut out. So no, they needed to design a brand new panel.

Actually taking in consideration what you wrote above it's quite accurate.

No.

Silicon CPUs are different. It's not that hard to figure out what has apple did with their design.

So you’re saying Apple doesn’t need to technically explain something complex and different (the cpu), but they should technically something that what you’re saying is simpler and similar (the display). That doesn’t make sense.

Yeah, don’t bother replying back to me as I’m not going to bother to read. This tells me you’re reaching hard to stay aflot in this conversation.
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Apple isn't manufacturing or inventing anything. All they do is make little tweaks to existing hardware. The only thing they have done with the OLED is having it's own color gamut range. Same with the camera lenses. They are using Sony tech for that (the cheaper ones). That's one of the reasons when Apple introduces a new model iPhone, competitors often beat it to market with it's own offerings.

Everybody can copy and design an iPhone except the processor. All parts are free to use.

The biggest scam is that Apple is charging the max for those glued together parts, while many competitors offer better components at more affordable prices.

Apple will never beat Samsung or LG in screen tech or folding techniques because Apple is using their inventions.

Liquid display or retina display are marketing terms only.

1. No, they engineered a way for the OLED screen to hide the chin. No one else seems to be copying that engineering and design aspect because it’s too difficult to do.
2. No, you cant literally copy an iPhone. There’s patent laws and also see point 1.
3. Your comment is simply for the sake of bashing Apple for charging high prices, which is completely off topic. So feel free to reply, but I’m not going to waste anymore time reading anymore of your comments on the topic of Apple’s high prices

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Side note: I quite enjoy MacRumor's ignore function. I can still see SevanW liking posts, but can't see any of his responses. Quite funny he's trying this hard

 

[Shanghaichica]

So you want them to test the “Natural Movie” color profile? You do know that it the color accuracy would be even worse off against the standard Rec709 if they did that, right? Haha that is such a bad counter argument. Your point is quite moot.





No other phone got rid of the chin. It’s a combination of bending the OLED and engineering a new bendable display connector that’s part of the OLED screen (go study the tear down) which has its technical challenges. Samsung only has bending of the OLED on the sides which doesn’t affect the display connector (therefore you have a chin). Go study some hardware engineering.

And before the iPhone X notch, only closest phone was the Essential phone which was more of a cut out. So no, they needed to design a brand new panel.





No.




So you’re saying Apple doesn’t need to technically explain something complex and different (the cpu), but they should technically something that what you’re saying is simpler and similar (the display). That doesn’t make sense.

Yeah, don’t bother replying back to me as I’m not going to bother to read. This tells me you’re reaching hard to stay aflot in this conversation.
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1. No, they engineered a way for the OLED screen to hide the chin. No one else seems to be copying that engineering and design aspect because it’s too difficult to do.
2. No, you cant literally copy an iPhone. There’s patent laws and also see point 1.
3. Your comment is simply for the sake of bashing Apple for charging high prices, which is completely off topic. So feel free to reply, but I’m not going to waste anymore time reading anymore of your comments on the topic of Apple’s high prices

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Side note: I quite enjoy MacRumor's ignore function. I can still see SevanW liking posts, but can't see any of his responses. Quite funny he's trying this hard

Samsung can make foldable oled displays and have been able to for years. I think they could fold the bottom of the display if they wanted to. In Samsung's case the reason why they haven't done that in the past is because they wanted symmetry between the top and the bottom of the display. It's been speculated that it's simply an expensive process to bend the display at the bottom which is why the android OEMs are not doing it. I'm much more inclined to believe this. Samsung can fold the bottom of the display if they want to. They are industry leaders in making OLED Displays...

 

[farewelwilliams]

I think they could fold the bottom of the display if they wanted to. In Samsung's case the reason why they haven't done that in the past is because they wanted symmetry between the top and the bottom of the display.

The S9 does not have symmetrical bezels.

They could fold the top, but at the bottom, no. That's where the display connector is. Samsung keeps that in the chin.

It's been speculated that it's simply an expensive process to bend the display at the bottom which is why the android OEMs are not doing it. I'm much more inclined to believe this. Samsung can fold the bottom of the display if they want to. They are industry leaders in making OLED Displays...

It's an expensive process because it's much more challenging compared to bending the sides like Samsung does on their screens due to the display connector at the bottom. And since Samsung has never done that before, Apple had to engineer the process for that step.

Also, from what I've seen, the infinity display only bends at about a 90 degree angle. Who knows what other challenges come from bending at 180 degrees. Again, this display that Apple used isn't just some off-the-shelf product that they can buy from Samsung. Apple had to engineer this screen.

Samsung produces the OLED displays in accordance to Apple's spec. It's still an Apple designed and engineered display.

 

[Shanghaichica]

The S9 does not have symmetrical bezels.

They could fold the top, but at the bottom, no. That's where the display connector is. Samsung keeps that in the chin.



It's an expensive process because it's much more challenging compared to bending the sides like Samsung does on their screens due to the display connector at the bottom. And since Samsung has never done that before, Apple had to engineer the process for that step.

Also, from what I've seen, the infinity display only bends at about a 90 degree angle. Who knows what other challenges come from bending at 180 degrees. Again, this display that Apple used isn't just some off-the-shelf product that they can buy from Samsung. Apple had to engineer this screen.

Samsung produces the OLED displays in accordance to Apple's spec. It's still an Apple designed and engineered display.

It may well be an apple designed product but Samsung can make a fully functional foldable display. I would think they can fold the display at the bottom if they wanted to. They are industry leaders in OLED displays and Apple are not.

The bezels are not the exact same size on the top and bottom of the S9 but Samsung did not want there to be a bezel at the top and not at the bottom. They wanted a degree of uniformity.

Samsung could implement their own version of face ID if they wanted to. They have the money to buy existing tech like Apple and like Huwawei but have chosen to stay with iris scanning and the in display FPS. Because android OEMS don't do something it doesn't always mean they can't do it.

 

[Michael Scrip]

Both of those have very strange size dimensions and aspect ratios.

According to Samsung's leaked documents... you're right.

The small screen is very skinny and rather tall. The onscreen keyboard when the phone is folded will be narrower than the iPhone SE. Which would mean a tiny keyboard.

Then when you unfold the phone... the screen is much bigger. But is it too wide to type?

Here's how the two screens compare:

And here's how the Galaxy S9 Plus screen compares to the unfolded phone:

I'm just trying to figure out when you'd use the phone folded vs unfolded.

Folded would make the screen very narrow and possibly uncomfortable to type... but unfolded would make the entire package require two hands to operate.

I guess that's the point: small when folded but opens up to a larger screen. But I'm wondering if the outside screen is too small?

It would suck if you had to unfold it every time you wanted to do anything other than just checking notifications.

Not to mention... video content won't be that much bigger on the unfolded phone versus a Galaxy S9+

Very strange dimensions and aspect ratios indeed.

EDIT: After reviewing my post... I came to this realization:

The unfolded "tablet" mode is a little bit smaller than an iPad Mini. That might be cool.

But the folded "phone" mode... the mode you might interact with the most... seems like it would be a challenge.

I think people wanted a device that starts out as a phone and can unfold to become a tablet.

But this seems like Samsung created a folding tablet... and then tacked on a tiny phone screen on the outside.

 

[ROGmaster]

So you want them to test the “Natural Movie” color profile? You do know that it the color accuracy would be even worse off against the standard Rec709 if they did that, right? Haha that is such a bad counter argument. Your point is quite moot.

Well Movie Mode on the S4 was the closest to sRGB for example but this is the point, Samsung's phones had for a long time more than one color profile which offered different calibrations, which is like I've said, ignored with a passion by certain people.

No other phone got rid of the chin. It’s a combination of bending the OLED and engineering a new bendable display connector that’s part of the OLED screen (go study the tear down) which has its technical challenges.

It's still just a cosmetic change for the overall front of the phone.
I was hoping to see what involvement Apple had in the tech that makes the OLED screens in their phones tick(or work). That's the most essential part, the screen itself.

Samsung only has bending of the OLED on the sides which doesn’t affect the display connector (therefore you have a chin). Go study some hardware engineering.

The simple fact is Samsung's screens are flexible, that's why they can be bent not because Apple did something special with them.

And before the iPhone X notch, only closest phone was the Essential phone which was more of a cut out. So no, they needed to design a brand new panel.

Irrelevant, most screen OEMs had notch screen designs in the works before iphone X was launched.
Also Samsung patented the notch screen design years ago.
And yes, Essential phone(a phone that was announced and launched before the iphone x) is quite a viable example, thanks for that.

No.

LoL, thta's it?

So you’re saying Apple doesn’t need to technically explain something complex and different (the cpu), but they should technically something that what you’re saying is simpler and similar (the display). That doesn’t make sense.

Yes, I'm saying that CPUs and screens are quite different.
Also Samsung Display and TSMC are very different and have different business models.

Yeah, don’t bother replying back to me as I’m not going to bother to read. This tells me you’re reaching hard to stay aflot in this conversation.

Your confidence is amusing, what you wrote above about the CPUs and screens thing is just a bunch or nonsense. You even tried put word in my mouth. So feel free to not read it, I'm not writing it for you anyway, there are other users here.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Well Movie Mode on the S4 was the closest to sRGB for example but this is the point, Samsung's phones had for a long time more than one color profile which offered different calibrations, which is like I've said, ignored with a passion by certain people.


It's still just a cosmetic change for the overall front of the phone.
I was hoping to see what involvement Apple had in the tech that makes the OLED screens in their phones tick(or work). That's the most essential part, the screen itself.

The simple fact is Samsung's screens are flexible, that's why they can be bent not because Apple did something special with them.

Irrelevant, most screen OEMs had notch screen designs in the works before iphone X was launched.
Also Samsung patented the notch screen design years ago.
And yes, Essential phone(a phone that was announced and launched before the iphone x) is quite a viable example, thanks for that.



LoL, thta's it?



Yes, I'm saying that CPUs and screens are quite different.
Also Samsung Display and TSMC are very different and have different business models.


Your confidence is amusing, what you wrote above is just a bunch or nonsense. You even tried put word in my mouth. So feel free to not read it, I'm not writing it for you anyway, there are other users here.

As you quite rightly pointed out Samsung have been making curved displays for years. Those prototypes were first shown off in 2013 but you can bet that they were working on them long before then.

I’d put my money on Samsung being behind the engineering of the screens on the iPhone X/Xs and Apple being involved in the calibration aspect of it only.

 

[ROGmaster]

As you quite rightly pointed out Samsung have been making curved displays for years. Those prototypes were first shown off in 2013 but you can bet that they were working on them long before then.

I’d put my money on Samsung being behind the engineering of the screens on the iPhone X/Xs and Apple being involved in the calibration aspect of it only.

Correct.
Samsung is preparing to launch this year a phone that opens and closes like a book and a user here pretends Samsung's wouldn't have been able to make a screen that allows for the bottom of the panel to fold under itself and Apple was forced to engineer and create this tech.

 

[AppleFanatic10]

I have a feeling this won't sell too well...

 

[Abazigal]

Correct.
Samsung is preparing to launch this year a phone that opens and closes like a book and a user here pretends Samsung's wouldn't have been able to make a screen that allows for the bottom of the panel to fold under itself and Apple was forced to engineer and create this tech.

That’s not his point.

To put it another way, is Gordon Ramsey any less talented as a chef just because he doesn’t grow his own ingredients? The customer doesn’t care whether you make your own parts or not, only whether you can provide a great experience. They pay the chef to have a great dining experience.

Samsung may have been able to manufacture bending OLED displays, but you still need Apple’s vision in knowing how to apply this property and put everything else together in order to get the signature iPhone design. Something which no other company was able to replicate.

Being able to manufacture great hardware only means so much if your application sucks, or the software can’t do it justice. How many times have we heard people complaining of how Touchwiz slows down the whole Samsung phone experience?

My bet is that while this folding phone might have impressive hardware, the whole experience is going to be dragged down by lacklustre software and the general lack of app support.

Because that’s what ultimately matters. The end user experience, not some novel piece of hardware in a vacuum.

 

[ROGmaster]

That’s not his point.
To put it another way, is Gordon Ramsey any less talented as a chef just because he doesn’t grow his own ingredients? The customer doesn’t care whether you make your own parts or not, only whether you can provide a great experience. They pay the chef to have a great dining experience.

LoL what an absolutely irrelevant example.

Also let's take a look at Apple's vision at work

Oh that's in 2013. Never mind.

Anyway Apple OEM's don't need to replicate anything.

Because that’s what ultimately matters. The end user experience, not some novel piece of hardware in a vacuum.

OK so you are going to pretend that Apple got the software experience just right every time they introduced a new hardware feature or made a major hardware change?
If I'm looking at Samsung's situation, they already announced a partnership with Google which will offer native support on Android for foldable phones. I guess this needs to be ignored so the anti-foldable phones rhetoric has a chance of working.

 

[Abazigal]

Anyway Apple OEM's don't need to replicate anything.

Looks like Apple still has the best implementation by far.

 

[farewelwilliams]

It may well be an apple designed product but Samsung can make a fully functional foldable display. I would think they can fold the display at the bottom if they wanted to. They are industry leaders in OLED displays and Apple are not.

The original question was whether or not Apple designed and engineer the screen, not if Samsung is the leader in the industry. That's a different question. So I think we're in agreement that Apple designed the screen.

Seeing how ROGMaster liked your post, he now seems to agree with me which is odd since he was saying Apple didn't engineer or design the screen. I have him on ignore so I won't see his responses, but regardless, this debate is settled.

The bezels are not the exact same size on the top and bottom of the S9 but Samsung did not want there to be a bezel at the top and not at the bottom. They wanted a degree of uniformity.

Look at the leaked S10 pictures. There's still a chin, but they removed the top. I don't think they're going for uniformity

Samsung could implement their own version of face ID if they wanted to. They have the money to buy existing tech like Apple and like Huwawei but have chosen to stay with iris scanning and the in display FPS. Because android OEMS don't do something it doesn't always mean they can't do it.

I don't think they can replicate Face ID easily. Apple bought PrimeSense (creator of Xbox's Kinect) and spent 4 years of research and development to shrink the Kinect hardware (something that's a little bit bigger than a nintendo switch) into a small module on a portable device that can securely unlock the phone using your face.

I'm sure Samsung is researching this, but this isn't something they can do in one year. Regardless, this is getting off topic now.

 

[ROGmaster]

Looks like Apple still has the best implementation by far.

By far? LoL
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Seeing how ROGMaster liked your post, he now seems to agree with me which is odd since he was saying Apple didn't engineer or design the screen. I have him on ignore so I won't see his responses, but regardless, this debate is settled.

Don't lie man, it's not nice.