Nah, your view is simply: trying to find excuses for Apple no matter what.
Even in a situation like this one where nobody is expecting anything form Apple, but maybe this by itself is what bothers you.
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Nah, your view is simply: trying to find excuses for Apple no matter what.
Even in a situation like this one where nobody is expecting anything form Apple, but maybe this by itself is what bothers you.
At least those phone makers are trying to out innovative their competitors. Something Apple hasn’t done in a long time. Since Timmy is at the helm of Apple, innovation has come to an halt. Greediness and focusing at profits, shareholders is their main goal.
Mobile World Congress this spring will put Apples products even more to shame.
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You’re being sarcastic I hope but what you wrote is probably true. It’s been the case for years nowI can't wait for Apple's slightly better camera and faster processor in the iPhone XI
that will show Samsung and their bendy thingy.
We could even get new Animoji's too
Isn't that par the course here? How Apple is supposedly doomed just because it isn't doing something that someone here likes or wants, like update their airport router, or release a cheaper phone, or making a round apple watch, even if these aren't necessarily products which matter in the greater scheme of things? Seems it's okay to be about "them" when it comes to criticising Apple, but lord forbid that *gasp* people actually have genuinely positive experiences with Apple products and are actually on board with the current direction that Apple is taking.
So why shouldn't it be about myself? I buy Apple products because they work great for me, contrary to all the criticisms that have been levelled at Apple. I listen to music via my AirPods as I walk to work every day. My Apple Watch tracks my workouts when I go running, and my iPad is working great for me in the classroom.
My answer has and always will be the same. If you really dislike the current Apple so much, then by all means vote with your wallet and stop buying Apple products. Maybe even pick up a folding phone when it does get released. And we will let their earnings speak for themselves as to whether has indeed made the right decisions or not.
My AirPods, Apple Watch, Smart Keyboard, and Apple Pencil all tell me otherwise.
Apple is clearly focused on other areas such as wearables, health, AR and self-driving cars, and these are just the ones we know about. But yeah, let's ignore the fact that the Apple Watch and AirPods are clearly gaining in popularity. I said it earlier in another thread on the Apple Watch gaining in popularity, and I will repeat it here. The biggest problem with the critics here is that they all have this tendency to fall over themselves rushing to hate on Apple for not doing something the competitor is doing, even if that is a niche product market that barely earns any money, and completely missing the big picture.
It was a problem back then, it was a problem 6 years ago, and it's still a problem now.
You all just don't learn. One bets against Apple to their own detriment.
With you, Yes.
You do it almost every time you remain without arguments.
Well that and you start to write things that look like they are copy/paste from Apple's marketing.
I rest my case. But I give you credit for admitting defeat. Always better to know your limits when trying to make an argument. Good on you for just coming out and admitting you don't just drink the kool-aid, you got the IV drip going. Not too many people can admit to such a thing. You must feel like a weight's been lifted off your chest.
I don't know what sort of arguments you want here.
The forum didn't believe me when I was speaking out in favour of the Apple Watch and the airpods back in 2016, and fast forward to today, it seems that the market has voted with their wallets in favour of Apple's current design choices. You all seem to think I am crazy when I talk about Apple's wearables strategy, can't seem to accept that Apple's current strategy of higher prices, more hardware and more services is absolutely the right one in this current climate, and would instead focus on itty-bitty details like Apple not releasing an updated router or external display as "evidence" that they have stopped innovating.
And now, the forum seems to have all but decided that Samsung's dominance in the smartphone market is a forgone conclusion, even though they have yet to unveil their rumoured foldable smartphone. And I maintain that the phone will not be available next week. We might get another teaser, but there is no way Samsung is going to upstage their own S10 keynote by drawing attention to another product which is obviously not yet ready for primetime (otherwise, Samsung would have leaked it themselves by now).
That Apple isn't innovating in an area that appeals to you doesn't mean that Apple isn't innovating at all. It just means that Apple isn't innovating in an area that appeals to you, but it also means that there are tons of other people who will likely appreciate what Apple is doing (and more importantly, appreciate it enough to spend money on it).
Apple's not a very hard company to read. They are far from doomed, and will go on to prosper for a good long time. Despite not doing exactly what you want them to do. Or perhaps, precisely because they are not doing exactly what you want them to.
I said you were left with no arguments(not that I want something specific) and honestly the best course for you would have been to not say anything.
At least those phone makers are trying to out innovative their competitors. Something Apple hasn’t done in a long time. Since Timmy is at the helm of Apple, innovation has come to an halt. Greediness and focusing at profits, shareholders is their main goal.
Mobile World Congress this spring will put Apples products even more to shame.
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You’re being sarcastic I hope but what you wrote is probably true. It’s been the case for years now
I don't personally agree. I don't view a bendable screen as innovative just yet. I think Apple has innovated in some areas as of late, mainly around their silicon, Face ID, AirPods, Apple Watch, all of which are some of the best examples in the industry.
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I am not really sure what you are getting at. Why does Apple need an excuse for not releasing a folding phone right now? I am happy with the Apple products I use today, so I am not sure what you mean.
Wait till Mobile World Congress this spring to see the purpose of folding screens and to see how embarrassing far Apple is getting behind.
But I’ve a feeling when there isn’t an Apple logo on it, it doesn’t meet your standards anyways. To each their own but I’ll take value for money any day and chose the gear that will bring me that. Regardless of the brand.
I can understand the purpose, I just don't think we are there yet when it comes to hardware and software. Until the device can be folded to about the size of an iPhone, unfold to about the size of a 10 inch tablet, have software fully optimized, and the full support of app developers on board - I don't see the value. It's a concept device that may become something down the line, but as of now it doesn't bring any value to me personally. I am good waiting until all that stuff is worked out, which won't be 2019. And yes, I have yet to see a ton of products outside of the Apple ecosystem that have compelled me to make the switch when it comes to aspects I care about - performance, security, privacy, ecosystem, apps, and customer support. Screen folding ability doesn't change that.
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One thing a lot of the Apple faithful have in common is that they actually brag about the money Apple makes. Or how how much Apple charges for their products. They talk about how Apple never goes on sale or doesn't offer bogo deals. They actually are proud of paying more for less. There's simply no point in even trying have discussions regarding Apple's shortcomings with anyone holding that kind of thought.
We'll see how it looks when it actually comes out. Don't really see a point in getting excited. It might just be a gimmick or it might actually prove to be useful; only time will tell.
One thing's for sure, if it's a good design and successful then we can expect others to follow suit
One thing's for sure, if it's a good design and successful then we can expect others to follow suit
One side claims Apple is doomed because of everything they do or don't do. The other side says Samsung and all other tech companies release new tech only to prove they can be first. I think the truth lies in the middle of these two extreme arguments.
Apple has and continues to be a forward thinking tech company that sees the writing on the wall of slower hardware sales, and is trying to broaden it's offerings. Samsung is a multifaceted company that develops tech not just for itself, but also to sell to others.
Claiming that this is not the time for a foldable screen is downright foolish and short sighted. It is never the right time for new tech until it is. Most here are looking at this tech for how it can be used in smartphones. I think that is very, very, shortsighted. There are many places that may make this tech extremely useful and most of us have no idea what these possibilities are.
Apple has and continues to be a forward thinking tech company that sees the writing on the wall of slower hardware sales, and is trying to broaden it's offerings. Samsung is a multifaceted company that develops tech not just for itself, but also to sell to others.
Claiming that this is not the time for a foldable screen is downright foolish and short sighted. It is never the right time for new tech until it is. Most here are looking at this tech for how it can be used in smartphones. I think that is very, very, shortsighted. There are many places that may make this tech extremely useful and most of us have no idea what these possibilities are.
I’m curious when Apple comes out with something similar in 2-3 years it will spend at least 15 minutes bragging about this feature in its keynote.
Same happened with oled. Most vendors used oled 2-3 years prior Apples iPhone X and most Apple faithful called it a gimmick.
Then Apple introduced its oled iPhone X. The same ones Samsung has been using for years. All of a sudden it was if Apple invented the screen and nobody has ever seen this before
so many things wrong with this.
1. All OLED screens are not the same. During the iPhone 5 days, OLED screens at the time weren't color accurate, there wasn't wide color support, poor color saturation.
2. Apple never said they invented OLED. When they introduced the first OLED iPhone, they were comparing traditional OLED screens to the OLED screen they're using.
3. At the time, OLED couldn't be made on the scale that Apple wanted since Samsung owns all the equipment to produce OLED screens. They have a monopoly, and Samsung prioritized their phones to get OLED screens over their clients.
If Apple were to ever come up with an iPhone that includes folding tech, of course they would be talking about it in a keynote. Why wouldn't they?
Nice try. You only wish Apple had Samsung's display tech. Apple has absolutely nothing to do with the OLED panel they use. That's all Samsung innovation in that display. All Apple did was calibrate it to their liking. When you buy a new Samsung or Sony or LG TV, and then pay Joe Bob to calibrate your new TV; do you, at that point re-brand your TV, and tell people you have a Joe Bob TV? Smh.
By the same logic, a doctor doesn’t manufacture his own medicine either. That doesn’t make him any less of a physician. I am paying for his expertise in knowing which medication to prescribe to me.
No different here. Apple doesn’t manufacture a lot of their components, and that’s perfectly all right. What we are paying for is Apple’s expertise in putting all these parts together in a manner which affords the user a great user experience. And of course, one cannot discount the value of the Apple ecosystem, from ios to the App Store, iTunes and accompanying services, all of which comes together to create that unique Apple experience.
Holy Mother of God, just when you think you heard it all, in comes this masterpiece. Wow! I'd like to laugh at this, but it's just too damn sad.
Deep down inside, you know what I am saying is true. A chef is no less of a chef if he buys his ingredients from a supermarket instead of growing them himself. Apple is no less innovative just because they source a good part of their components from third party suppliers. Not to mention that they do customise a fair amount of their own technology, from their processors, to the W1 chip.
Specs are just the means. The user experience is the end.
Samsung makes good hardware, that I do not deny, but the quality of the end product is more than just soldering a bunch of hardware together. Software matters. The ecosystem matters. So long as Samsung continues to rely on Android and lack their own software platform, this is really as far as they can go.
You could not be more wrong.
Apple designs and engineers the screen. Apple gives the design + technology to Samsung which mass produces according to Apple's spec. This is public knowledge, so for you to blurt out that false information is extraordinary. Go do some research next time before you reply.
It's very similar to Tesla designing and engineering the the battery module for their Model 3 car which they hand it over to Panasonic to mass produce it.
"SMH"
Go ahead and provide the link where you got this public knowledge. Waiting and eager to read it. TIA.
BTW, for 2019, Apple is said to use Samsung's bone crushing, world dominating OLED tech once again. This time Apple wants Samsung's Y-Octa tech. I guess Apple developed that as well. SMH indeed.
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https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208191
QUOTE: "The Super Retina display in iPhone X, iPhone XS, and iPhone XS Max was engineered by Apple to meet our incredibly high standards."
100% proven wrong. Feel free to reply but I'm not going to read. You're wasting too much of my time.
SMH
Yeah of course, I'm not surprised.
There's also no need to try to insinuate that Apple is wise and that's why they are supposedly "waiting", that that's the best course of action and that other companies are launching something just to be first.
Good laaawd, you provided a link from Apple with a broad, "engineered by Apple." That would be Apple's way of saying "we calibrated Samsung's amazing OLEDs to make our faithful feel a sense of pride." lol. I'm guessing you were getting frustrated that you couldn't find any other source specifically saying they developed the OLED. It's because they didn't. And now your 2019 iPhone will be using Samsung proprietary Y-Octa tech for thinner 2019 iphones. Enjoy the bone crushing Samsung tech.