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Samsung and Google Delay Android Handset Launch in Wake of Steve Jobs' Death
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It's not about ranking the post. A +1 in this context is simply a way of showing that you agree with what has been said but don't feel the need to reword or repeat it. It's more personalized than what ends up being an anonymous bumping up of a post ranking. Not that hard to understand, really.
Only tech-nerds believe this, most of the world and Apples customers, atleast outside the US, have no idea who Steve Jobs were. The deaths of Diana and Jackson had alot more impact on alot more people.
The biggest newspaper in my country only had a few articles about Steve Jobs, short retrospect, slideshow and such. The death of Amy Winehouse probably got more attention.
Posting only to agree without adding to the discussion is something that goes against netiquette though. The ranking system is there to show that you agree without having to reword or repeat it.
Reference (RFC 1855 - Netiquette Guidelines - section 3.1.3) :
Maybe I'm just showing my age here...
Not a family Linux is part of. Nor iOS for that matter. The fact is, Linux and iOS are 2 different things for one. One is a kernel and the other is a OS. Linux and Darwin are what you want to compare and aside from both being OS kernels, the similarities end there.
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They're copying Apple again!
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Samsung is Korean. And those who argue against the fact that the official reason is "respect" are the ones with ulterior motives (hating on Samsung and Google), not the players directly involved here.
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Good thing Apple is not selling a phone based on specs this go... oh wait
Funny how Apple doesn't share your vision.Apple competes on specs as much as the next guys. Heck, I didn't even understand half of the camera specs they gave out (nor do I really care, in the end, it's a cellphone camera, it's barely "good enough" by definition).
Exactly, Apple loves to brag about specs when it supports them while obscuring the specs that doesn't.
I agree that the delay is self serving, I think they understood that their product launch would get lost in all the news concerning the death of Mr. Jobs and the IPhone 4s and decided to wait until their release would be "above the fold" news.
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Welome to "Introduction to Marketing, Mktg 101"
Not a family Linux is part of. Nor iOS for that matter. The fact is, Linux and iOS are 2 different things for one. One is a kernel and the other is a OS. Linux and Darwin are what you want to compare and aside from both being OS kernels, the similarities end there.
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They're copying Apple again!
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Samsung is Korean. And those who argue against the fact that the official reason is "respect" are the ones with ulterior motives (hating on Samsung and Google), not the players directly involved here.
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Good thing Apple is not selling a phone based on specs this go... oh wait
Funny how Apple doesn't share your vision.
Not exactly. Apple stays above the dick measuring contest that is most phone spec lists. Apple introduces tech when it is feasible and improves the experience rather than just to have another bullet point in the spec list.
Absolutely not.
Korean culture and former google board ties. They are doing it for respect and frankly the doubting of that is the underbelly of Mac fanaticism. They couldn't have one in those people's eyes.
Hold the event 'omg what about jobs, the lawsuit, how disrespectful'
Too bad whats feasible for others is not always feasible for Apple (things like OLED, LTE, HSPA+, 1GB RAM, NFC, memory cards, dual band WiFi etc.)
Funny, those slides sure sound like bullet point spec lists.
No really, you're not going to convince me. Apple competes on specs when they can and when they can't, they tell you specs don't matter.
Were in the 4S era now, remember, this time, it's about specs.
It's a sad world were a company prospones their product and all the bitter fan boys try and "read between the lines" and try and create theories to why samsung and google have done this, and they surely must have some kind of bad motive.
It's also sad the fact This thread was created in response to someones death, yet people are arguing stuff like " x screen is better than x" and " these specs are better than that".
People should grow up themselves and show the same amount of respect google and samsung have shown
It's also sad the fact This thread was created in response to someones death, yet people are arguing stuff like " x screen is better than x" and " these specs are better than that".
People should grow up themselves and show the same amount of respect google and samsung have shown
Funny, those slides sure sound like bullet point spec lists.
No really, you're not going to convince me. Apple competes on specs when they can and when they can't, they tell you specs don't matter.
Were in the 4S era now, remember, this time, it's about specs.
I couldn't give a crap about Apple's schizophrenia. Spec races distract from the real pitfalls and strengths of a computing platform. Managers get confused and force engineers with new and fresh ideas to make crap all in the name of specs.
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Go look up what a RG-BG pentile matrix looks like. You don't get a single "point" of RGB, you get a sliver of green, alternating red and blue. It's quite clever for distributing the colors around, but the side effect is that a "point" is a blend. Pentile's perceived resolution and color accuracy depend highly on the use of subpixel rendering algorithms.
Just like megapixels in digicams and megahertz in CPUs, PPI isn't comparable without knowing more about the device implementation.
Sounds about right...
Yea I was suspicious too. Given Samsung's inclination for slavishly coping Apple, it's probably the case here.
Yea I was suspicious too. Given Samsung's inclination for slavishly coping Apple, it's probably the case here.
Everybody will brag when they do have the highest specs. That's a no brainer.
The difference lies in why you have those specs in the first place. Was it just so you can brag? Or does it actually make the product better?
As an engineer and gadget enthusiast, i've learned that specs are meaningless without context. I've learned that having a 1.3 megapixel phone on my Motorola v710 is worthless when the sensor size is minuscule, and the optics are garbage. I've learned that my mom's Casio 7 megapixel digicam is crap compared to my Fuji F31fd 6 megapixel camera because the Fuji's pixel density is lower.
I know my 3.2 Ghz Pentium 4 is pretty much going to get it's butt kicked by a Core Solo clocked at 2 Ghz. And I know that stopped caring about my mouse's dpi somewhere around 900, as long as the sampling rate is over 2500. And I also know that even running OSX 10.5 and the same universal apps on both a PPC and Intel Mac, the Intel Mac is worthless without at least 2GB of RAM while the PPC will be decent at 1GB because usage of the swapfile incurs a heavier penalty on the Intel compared to the PPC.
Feasibility involves making a decision as to whether or not it's worth it.
LTE versus battery life: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/124550/20110318/htc-thunderbolt-review-battery-life.htm
When chipsets improve, Apple will use LTE.
OLED : pixel density, screen door problem, power consumption issues, and color gamut problems (even with the RGBW grid, the W isn't real white because of the way white LEDs are made, and the adding of one more element to the stripe causes other distortions.)
Here's more about the pentile RGBG grid.
http://androidforums.com/android-lo...lcd-vs-qhd-vs-retina-display.html#post2769351
1GB of RAM? : Sure, Apple could add 1GB of ram if they wanted to. But if your platform already performs well on 256megs, it's not like it's a must have. Besides, RAM requires power, so adding more drops standby time. Since the OS kicks sleeping apps out of memory when you're out of memory, and the developers are encouraged to save state to disk, most people wouldn't be able to notice if they came across an iOS device with 1GB of memory.
NFC: No use case most people would care about. I have a NFC phone. The only thing I've done with NFC was turn it off since discovered that the "unknown tag ID" message I kept getting from Google Tags was my credit card. Google Wallet doesn't even support my Nexus S. When Apple thinks of a mindblowingly awesome use case, we'll see NFC on an iPhone.
And so on. Memory cards are harder to explain, but trust me, there's a lot of little details and compromises from the obvious solutions. Even Android has problems with these things.
i dont think they delay the event for shoing off reasons..
They do from respect to Steve..
I think they will do the event mid october or?
They do from respect to Steve..
I think they will do the event mid october or?
Specs are important. Without specs, there is no user experience. Try driving iOS on a 16 mhz 16 bit chip with no FPU and a graphics processor capable of taking bits in memory and pushing them out to RAMDAC for conversion into an analog stream.
I hope your assembly isn't too rusty...
Apple knows this. They know a dual-core processor and updated GPU will give them freedom to up the experience without introducing lagging or loading times. They know that faster network speeds makes consuming online content more fluid. They know a better camera takes better pictures and bring us that much closer to analog photography quality.
They push the specs as much as the next guy (Core i7! Thunderbolt 10 Gbps both ways! A5 Dual-Core CPU! F/2.4 thingamagig in our camera!) and know that the computing experience is 2 folds : Software and Hardware. If either sad isn't up to par, the experience suffers.
So it's really disingenious of posters here to keep claiming specs don't matter. They do. And this time, while Apple is touting their latest and greatest, everyone can see they barely caught up to the market of 3 months ago. As we move forward, the Android OEMs are already shipping faster and better stuff and Google is getting ready to use that hardware in much update software (have you even seen the ICS preview ? God I want widgets on iOS!)
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By context you mean even more specs. Gotcha
Specs are important, the entirety of specs like you put it. 1 spec alone means nothing, you need to know the whole package to make an informed decision.
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The problem is not "No use case", it's "No use case in the US". The world outside is far more advance than the US in this case. In Japan, using your mobile as a cash card is already very common. Look beyond your borders, these are not US only models.
Why would they need to wait 2 weeks ? It's not like the iPhone 4S hasn't been available on the market for like 16 months already now.
Again : official statement was made. It's out of respect. Anyone questionning it at this point needs to keep their paranoia in check.
Not a hope of Flash coming and if it did I think Apple would lose a large chunk of its userbase, one of the reasons why Apple is so successful is the user experience, soon as people's Apple products start getting filled with malware, start draining the battery like there is no tomorrow and find websites loading a nightmare they will drop Apple fast.