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Samsung and LG Reportedly Exploring Sapphire Crystal Displays
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HobeSoundDarryl
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It doesn't but that was my point. I was responding to the person I quoted who referenced it as a "major upgrade motivation" for an iPhone 6s. I see it as a more expensive part that doesn't show in some tangible, visible way (like any of the guts inside the phone). If someone is worried about scratching the glass front of their phones, this upgrade will reduce that risk.
great...
Just to play devil's advocate, but is there anything to say these companies have not been working on sapphire just as long or longer than Apple? I mean I'm just as big an Apple guy as anyone around here, but, this isn't LG rumors dot com... and LG is pretty deep in the display business... I mean I don't know... but... Am I off here?
Just to play devil's advocate, but is there anything to say these companies have not been working on sapphire just as long or longer than Apple? I mean I'm just as big an Apple guy as anyone around here, but, this isn't LG rumors dot com... and LG is pretty deep in the display business... I mean I don't know... but... Am I off here?
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Maybe that's the "doubling down" strategy. Instead of it being about increased secrecy, its plants to distract the competition. The Apple television rumor motivated many TV manufacturers to work hard on better, smarter televisions. The
TV service rumor motivated others in the set-top business to try harder with set top box interfaces and functionality. The iWatch rumor has made multiple players try to roll out wifi and cellular-connected watches. Maybe "doubling down" is a proactive strategy of leaking internally-rejected concepts while Apple works on whatever "new categories" it intends to roll out?
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Apparently some of the people here aren't aware that there is a phone with a sapphire display.
This article is about that one component and other OEMs focusing on it, it is also full of people commenting and focusing on Samsung supposedly copying that one component just because they think Apple was there first and have some sort of silly brand loyalty vendetta. Vertu's looks and price don't have anything to do with any of this, but their idea to go with sapphire first does.
Who said they couldn't tell the difference, apparently however... some people will cry foul if LG or Samsung considers a sapphire display because Apple is considering becoming the second manufacturer to utilize a sapphire display.
OTOH, Samsung continue to ape Apple's every move. Look at even their flagship phone name.
S5 vs the original 5s.
Yea, you are right... that couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the S5 is the 5th iteration of the Galaxy S line.
Not going to deny the first round of their devices looked like Apple's offerings. I'd say they have tried to define their own look these days, whether you like it or not. What Apple device do their newer devices look like?
You don't really know how things would have turned out, also when this lawsuit happened Samsung started making serious inroads in sales and made a lot more money. Their brand was strengthened because it put another smartphone brand in the limelight and got them more exposure with the masses than any Android phone got.
Well that was completly expected, I think I'm going to have a heart attack and die of NOT surprise
According the patent filing, Apple may have invented something to mass produce and work with Sapphire more easily. Allegedly, that's why they went ahead with the project while others backed off earlier.
Please stop this nonsense. Any new material will kindle curiosity among manufacturers. It has happened since the dawn of the industrial age.
So Apple copied the larger phone size and the pull down widgets from Android and your reaction to that was? Utter silence I think?
Grow up and don't be such Apple snobs.
So Apple copied the larger phone size and the pull down widgets from Android and your reaction to that was? Utter silence I think?
Grow up and don't be such Apple snobs.
You did not at all stop and consider that maybe its because its the 5th of the S-line?
Samsung Galaxy S1 (Originally just known as the 'S')
Samsung Galaxy S2
Samsung Galaxy S3
Samsung Galaxy S4
Samsung Galaxy S5
But heres a spoiler for you.
The next one is going to be called.
Samsung Galaxy S6
And the one after that.
Samsung Galaxy S7
And on the side, you have:
Samsung Galaxy Note 1
Samsung Galaxy Note 2
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
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Suppose the very thin sapphire sheet this company can produce were bonded to a substrate that was much more shatter-resistant than Gorilla Glass. Result: excellent shatter and scratch resistance. That'd be worth a lot.
Apparently some of the people here aren't aware that there is a phone with a sapphire display.
This article is about that one component and other OEMs focusing on it, it is also full of people commenting and focusing on Samsung supposedly copying that one component just because they think Apple was there first and have some sort of silly brand loyalty vendetta. Vertu's looks and price don't have anything to do with any of this, but their idea to go with sapphire first does.
Who said they couldn't tell the difference, apparently however... some people will cry foul if LG or Samsung considers a sapphire display because Apple is considering becoming the second manufacturer to utilize a sapphire display.
Yea, you are right... that couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the S5 is the 5th iteration of the Galaxy S line.
Not going to deny the first round of their devices looked like Apple's offerings. I'd say they have tried to define their own look these days, whether you like it or not. What Apple device do their newer devices look like?
You don't really know how things would have turned out, also when this lawsuit happened Samsung started making serious inroads in sales and made a lot more money. Their brand was strengthened because it put another smartphone brand in the limelight and got them more exposure with the masses than any Android phone got.
I have already gone over many of your points in the last few pages. Not going to repeat here.
But given that Samsung is still following Apple's gold phone last year. And fingerprint this year. You can be sure that if Apple hadn't sued, Samsung will copy more to try to share parts cost more.
I wonder about the Healthbook rumor now.
As for the 5S name, even if it's their 5th iteration, companies will pick other dissimilar names to differentiate themselves. Just look at everyone on the market. S2-S5 is a play off the iPhone s series and release schedule.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Why not bond Gorilla Glass to that same substrate and save the big difference in component cost? I don't believe sapphire is about reducing shatter risk. I know "we" want it to be about that because that's the more typical issue with iDevice fronts.
Why not G1-G7 ?
You have to put their entire practice together to see why it's copying.
None of the phone are called Sx _and_ none looked almost identical to an iPhone when first launched.
The newer iterations are just a reminder of the first blatant copy. The name stuck after all these years, and they still say they didn't copy.
Yes, we know. Don't you think Apple would have contacted Corning about this first, since Corning has been a partner for so long? I think it's about getting the cost down and Apple's patent filings point to getting cost under control. Not that this could stop a company like Corning from perfecting an alternative, cost-friendly approach. I doubt Apple would license its patent (muhahahaha).
Why not G1-G7 ?
You have to put their entire practice together to see why it's copying.
None of the phone are called Sx _and_ none looked almost identical to an iPhone when first launched.
The newer iterations are just a reminder of the first blatant copy. The name stuck after all these years, and they still say they didn't copy.
I don't even know how to begin with this moronic comment.
Yes it's moronic for Samsung to ape everything at launch. They have tried to change a few things now. But the series name is hard to change. So they got stuck with it.
Sony, HTC, Google, LG pick their naming convention to stay unique from the getgo, and generally try to form their own ID.
Over-generalization. Some competitive practices may not be good for the industry or consumers in the long run.
Well they might consider that if they could, but that would presume being able to make 20 micron thick sheets of Gorilla Glass (probably not possible because it's not a crystal).
Also sapphire is indisputably more scratch-resistant, so given an economically viable choice between the two the way Apple rolls they'll go for better even if it costs slightly more.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I'm not hearing about it costing "slightly more" (I hear it costs a lot more) but if we're going to define thicknesses as a requirement, there's no arguing any point. Slipping in a detail like that as a requirement negates any counter-point. If sapphire is about the all-important "thinner" marketing spin, there may be merit there. Personally, I'm in the camp of current "thin" being thin enough.
Speaking of copying, please copy and paste this when the MacRumors article appears confirming larger screen sizes, mkay?
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