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If Apple admits a 3% difference you can bet your bottom dollar that number is probably at least double 6% or triple 9%. They are going to spin it in the most PR FRIENDLY way possible. They aren't going to give you the "worst possible case scenario" and "make themselves look bad". They just won't no company would not saying I would do any different!


that is the problem.
 
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yea, but why there should ever be a better chip for the same phone i payed good $ for?
quite insane when you think about it (that Apple went through with this thinking that power users won't mind).

Well now there is a better overall phone. Should those not having model 1634 be able to return theirs?
AT&T the best iphone
 
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yea, but why there should ever be a better chip for the same phone i payed good $ for?
quite insane when you think about it (that Apple went through with this thinking that power users won't mind).
maybe because there is no significative difference between the SoCs.

Dude , I can drop bars on my iPhone 6s , if I cover it up in an unnatural manner !

You are still ignoring the flaw that was placement of the antennas on the iPhone 4.

For a guy trying to come across as tech savvy, how can you not comprehend this? It's a credibility issue.
I didn't say iPhone 4 antenna was a good solution. The way they changed it in the 4s demonstrated it wasn't.
I just said the "AntennaGate" was overblown by the net.
No matter how you try to twist it: sales numbers demonstrated the iPhone 4 was a success.
 
According to Hiraku's CPU Identifier app. the highest end of iPhone 6s PLUS model, 89.12% are installed with TSMC where as the rest are of Samsung chips..

thanks. if this is indeed true, i think i might pick the 128 model.
can i ask where did you read it if you remember? a link maybe?
i'm also wondering if there's any difference in chips in worldwide models, etc..
 
maybe because there is no significative difference between the SoCs.


I didn't say iPhone 4 antenna was a good solution. The way they changed it in the 4s demonstrated it wasn't.
I just said the "AntennaGate" was overblown by the net.
No matter how you try to twist it: sales numbers demonstrated the iPhone 4 was a success.

Overblown is making a ridiculous statement saying apple successfully demonstrated that all phones suffered from it.

My golden rule on MR , once a person turns to sales figure to support thier arguement, they are desperate.... And deflecting .

We are not discussing sales figures mate, we are discussing a design flaw. Having huge sale figure, does not mean the problem goes away ;) no one once said the iPhone 4 was not a success.

You are better than using the sales figure get out clause so many throw around here.
 
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The Sammy S6 is faster than a TSMC 6S. Also, The Sammy 6S battery will last longer over time. You will notice significant battery loss over time...like around 6 months of use. The Sammy 6S will continue to perform just as it was from day one.
Check out the vids on youtube.com

Huh? So, no
The amount the people buy into the "cult of apple" is insane. I'm not saying the way some people are reacting to this is justified (or sane) but to flat out defend apple every step of the way is ridiculous too. They are a for profit company, not some charitable organization. Also, they do make mistakes from time to time. AntennaGate was a bad move on their part. Otherwise I would have never received a FREE case over it.

An to tell a customer "try not to hold it that way" is crazy. Let them hold it how they normally would or want to! The same with people that put the iphone 4 in their back pocket, and the iphone 5 in their back pocket and then all the sudden they do the same with the 6 and it bends! Then people are saying "Stupid! Don't put the phone in your pocket!" Now they're telling you how you can carry your phone?

If Apple admits a 3% difference you can bet your bottom dollar that number is probably at least double 6% or triple 9%. They are going to spin it in the most PR FRIENDLY way possible. They aren't going to give you the "worst possible case scenario" and "make themselves look bad". They just won't no company would not saying I would do any different!

So, what's your reason for stating your non-facts, things pulled from your conspiracy bin?
If Apple lies, they get sued and potentially clients.
If you lie, well you just lie.. So, who am I going to believe? Little hint, mister "no spin" (sic): not you.

Also, whose "fan" are you, who are you spinning for? Because, anyone who uses "cult of apple" in their post their has his agenda posted in mile high blinking red letters across their ocean wide ego inflated head.

So, crash off your own high horse, you're one of the little people...

Apple gave a chip to some people that give more specs than the one they announced in September, a difference that will truly matter only for the most heavy users. Everyone else is still getting a great phone that's within spec.

If anyone is trying spin, it's you, not Apple.

Apple could have only used the TSMC and probably had low stocks until January and more people would whine about that, and they'd be right because for most it wouldn'T matter.
 
Stay away from Lirum - either the free or paid version - as they do not seem to work.

It did until this blew up.

It's reasonable to think that Apple paid them off, because the timing is so suspicious. Apple simply don't want people finding out which chip they have, in case they get flooded with returns, not to mention lawsuits.
 
Even Apple found two sources for chip, Apple should provide same designs but not one with 14ms but other 16ms, one must be better than another one when two have different designs, this is totally Apple screws itself up.
 
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No, it's yanked by the developer.

https://twitter.com/LirumLabs/status/651740836829483008
Lirum Labs‏@LirumLabs
@leowings We will take the App down in 24 hours until we can release a decent update.




5:48 AM - 7 Oct 2015
[/QUOTE]

This is a completely unconvincing response.

The app was working just fine when I first downloaded it. It's clear to me that they've either been paid off by Apple, threatened by Apple, or have removed the functionality from their free app in order to make you buy their paid one.

The apps are back up without an update, which suggests to me that Apple made the move. The functionality has been removed, so I think Apple deliberately removed the apps initially, then persuaded Lirum either with money or by threat to remove the functionality of determining the chip, after which, they allowed the apps back on the App Store.
 
Overblown is making a ridiculous statement saying apple successfully demonstrated that all phones suffered from it.

My golden rule on MR , once a person turns to sales figure to support thier arguement, they are desperate.... And deflecting .

We are not discussing sales figures mate, we are discussing a design flaw. Having huge sale figure, does not mean the problem goes away ;) no one once said the iPhone 4 was not a success.

You are better than using the sales figure get out clause so many throw around here.
Sales DOES mean that the "issue" was real only on forums like this.
The antenna wasn't the best part of the iPhone 4, BUT it didn't cause any real problem in most of the cases (again, US customers under poor AT&T coverage were the most complaining people at the time).
 
Huh? So, no


So, what's your reason for stating your non-facts, things pulled from your conspiracy bin?
If Apple lies, they get sued and potentially clients.
If you lie, well you just lie.. So, who am I going to believe? Little hint, mister "no spin" (sic): not you.

Also, whose "fan" are you, who are you spinning for? Because, anyone who uses "cult of apple" in their post their has his agenda posted in mile high blinking red letters across their ocean wide ego inflated head.

So, crash off your own high horse, you're one of the little people...

Apple gave a chip to some people that give more specs than the one they announced in September, a difference that will truly matter only for the most heavy users. Everyone else is still getting a great phone that's within spec.

If anyone is trying spin, it's you, not Apple.

Apple could have only used the TSMC and probably had low stocks until January and more people would whine about that, and they'd be right because for most it wouldn'T matter.

Here is 6s plus from apple website:

iPhone 6s Plus

Talk time: Up to 24 hours on 3G

Internet use: Up to 12 hours on 3G, up to 12 hours on LTE, up to 12 hours on Wi‑Fi

HD video playback: Up to 14 hours

Audio playback: Up to 80 hours

Standby time: Up to 16 days

All are in Apple unknown condition, the term "up to" means apple nevers promise anything
So apple nevers promises anything about battery or heat at all. It just says it uses a a9 chip, actually apple can use different cpu in every iphone 6s plus, saying the chip is a9, still legal. Apple can let one iphone 6s plus can run 50 hours in real life, another one runs 1 hour, still legal because as long as in apple testing condition the hours are within what it claims, or even not there still ok, "up to" means can be not close to that number at all.
See the term "up to" can tell apple has cheap shot this time and dont want to take any responsibility.
 
Here is 6s plus from apple website:

iPhone 6s Plus

Talk time: Up to 24 hours on 3G

Internet use: Up to 12 hours on 3G, up to 12 hours on LTE, up to 12 hours on Wi‑Fi

HD video playback: Up to 14 hours

Audio playback: Up to 80 hours

Standby time: Up to 16 days

All are in Apple unknown condition, the term "up to" means apple nevers promise anything
So apple nevers promises anything about battery or heat at all. It just says it uses a a9 chip, actually apple can use different cpu in every iphone 6s plus, saying the chip is a9, still legal. Apple can let one iphone 6s plus can run 50 hours in real life, another one runs 1 hour, still legal because as long as in apple testing condition the hours are within what it claims, or even not there still ok, "up to" means can be not close to that number at all.
See the term "up to" can tell apple has cheap shot this time and dont want to take any responsibility.
totally BS ... every OEM use the term "up to" speaking about battery life, since it is influenced by many factors
 
Sales DOES mean that the "issue" was real only on forums like this.
The antenna wasn't the best part of the iPhone 4, BUT it didn't cause any real problem in most of the cases (again, US customers under poor AT&T coverage were the most complaining people at the time).

Rubbish. The issue went viral and made the news worldwide . Like the 1800 news!

Apple issued all customers a free case, how on earth do you conclude it was limited to forums?

You either have an awful memory or live yourself in a reality distortion field, do I need to help with how things actually played out? Or would you prefer to live in your dream world where antennagate was a non issue.

I got an iPhone 4, my favourite phone that apple had ever profuced. I accept its got a design flaw. And you know what, I had to adjust my grip!!!
 
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Rubbish. The issue went viral and made the news worldwide . Like the 1800 news!

Apple issued all customers a free case, how on earth do you conclude it was limited to forums?

You either have an awful memory or live yourself in a reality distortion field, do I need to help with how things actually played out? Or would you prefer to live in your dream world where antennagate was a non issue.

I got an iPhone 4, my favourite phone that apple had ever profuced. I accept its got a design flaw. And you know what, I had to adjust my grip!!!
yes it went viral and forgotten after a few weeks. Like any other #gate in Apple's world (bendgate the last).
A very vocal minority on web forums could sometimes reach traditional media, but after a few weeks al these false "issues" are forgotten.
 
Yes, that does strike me as good service. Your phone was almost 2 years old. Rechargeable cells decline in strength over time. Not exactly a well kept secret.

I agree that Apple could've mentioned it, but did you even ask? It's your phone. I would've definitely asked about purchasing new battery if it were my phone.

Yes I did ask. The first thing I said was that the battery doesn't last long enough and I want a new one. They ran the tests and then said I couldn't have one, even though I was prepared to pay.

I'm perfectly aware that lithium batteries decline in capacity. That's why I went in wanting to upgrade!
 
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