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As a meaningless comparison... I'm at 70%, after 3:41 minutes usage and 7:23 of standby. On a 6s TSMC. No phone calls, though. My battery usage is mostly a game and FaceBook background updates.

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That facebook app is murder on the battery too.
 
Battery life difference of 10-20% for heavy use is a big deal to me. I mean I'd rather have a 10% performance decrease than a 10% battery decrease. How many of us have found ourselves below 20% or 10%. Not often, but enough.

Plus Apple PR is saying 2-3%, you can bet that is the BEST case scenario.

Back this goes (when I have time).
 
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Even an extra half hour of battery life makes a huge difference by the end of the day, so consumers have a right to be concerned if the TSMC chips can deliver this regularly. My iPhone 5s now lasts only 5 hours on average, far less than its originally-advertised 8 hours. Apple refuses to give me any option to replace the battery, forcing me instead to risk my phone and void its warranty by doing so through a third party.

Battery life is the number one problem of these high powered devices and it's the very reason these tests are being done in the first place. If battery life wasn't an issue nobody would care who made the chip and whether one lasts a bit longer. But it is an issue and people do care as evidenced by how much this issue is blowing up.

Apple is now in full-on damage control and have shot themselves in the foot by consistently failing to address battery life in their phones, preferring instead to make them ever slimmer and even taking the opportunity to (or being forced to) shave off some battery capacity in the latest models.

I call ********. Go to any Apple Store and they will replace it for $79.
 
The Sammy S6 is faster than a TSMC 6S. Also, The Sammy 6S battery will last longer over time. You will notice significant battery loss over time...like around 6 months of use. The Sammy 6S will continue to perform just as it was from day one.
Check out the vids on youtube.com
 
Seriously I saw a story on Forbes this morning with the headline 'Did you get a good iPhone or a bad one?'. Think about an average non-techie iPhone owner seeing something like that in a news feed and wondering if they got a crap iPhone. Does anyone really think Apple would ship a phone where under real world normal every day usage one phone would get 2 hours better battery life than another?

My 2012 retina MacBook Pro with the Samsung display in my opinion is 22% better than the LG display. Yes apple ships devices that have variances due to using different parts. Personally I find a screen to be a bigger issue than battery life as normal usage varies so much when it comes to users.

One can argue there is a better device each product lifecycle , and yes apple believe they can get away with it, it's annoying Greeks that pull them up on it.

There are many many examples of this in the forums, the average user though has no idea .

Has anything ever reported on MacRumors been worthy of that dumb label?

Only antenna gate, as it resulted in everyone getting a free case from Apple.

Guys, don't immediately say this is clickbait!

Remember the issue with the 2012 Macbook Air - there were screen displays made by 2 different companies and trust me, it was the difference between night and day!

The OCD and knowledgeable types will check their new 6s's - if it bothers you, you're still within 2 weeks - return and replace!

Was that not the retina MacBook Pro, Samsung v LG screens . And I agree, big difference.
 
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I think you may have left out the word "not" in that sentence above. Your placement of the word "but" I think indicates that you meant to say "but the same effect was NOT reproducible on every phone touching the right spot"…

Is that what you meant to say to me? If it is then you're wrong. Every single phone touched in the same spot in a place where a perceptible difference between 5 bars and 4 bars could be perceived - showed the design flaw. When it didn't show the flaw it was just because you were in a strongly 5 or four or three bar area. But it was 100% reproducible on every iPhone 4. There was even a jailbreak tweak that let you see antenna power and you could test it without relying on looking at the bars.

Apple's denying of the flaw was what warranted the term "Antenna-Gate".
I meant that Apple demonstrated that every other phone produced by other companies had an "Antennagate " if touched in the right spot
 
I meant that Apple demonstrated that every other phone produced by other companies had an "Antennagate " if touched in the right spot
Ah thanks for the clarification. I don't remember Apple taking that angle with it.. Though it sounds like an "Apple excuse".. ;). And it's not really accurate. Bottom line - placement of antenna in iPh4 was a design flaw, one that Apple was unwilling to admit at first - making the "cover up" worthy of the scandal name "Antenna-gate"..

Jury's still out for me as to whether this chip thing this year will be worthy of the "...-gate" name or not. It's Apples posture in it all that makes it worthy of the scandal name or not.
 
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I meant that Apple demonstrated that every other phone produced by other companies had an "Antennagate " if touched in the right spot

That is wrong . Apple tried to demonstrate, big difference to did demonstrate.

It was a half arsed attempt to deflect a design flaw .

Apples Right spot on the iPhone 4 was the natural position in hand.
 
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That is wrong . Apple tried to demonstrate, big difference to did demonstrate.

It was a half arsed attempt to deflect a design flaw .

Apples Right spot on the iPhone 4 was the natural position in hand.
Apple DID demonstrated, and I could reproduce the effect on the Blackberry I had at the time.
 
Apple DID demonstrated, and I could reproduce the effect on the Blackberry I had at the time.

You said Apple demonstrated it on all phones , that's rubbish, you are cherry picking. Read the articles around the time , the industry had a good laugh at Apple at these demonstration .

Were you holding you blackberry in normal posting? I think your missing the point of the design flaw!!'
 
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I meant that Apple demonstrated that every other phone produced by other companies had an "Antennagate " if touched in the right spot

Right, your savior Steve Jobs said it so it must be true :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

That was debunked several times. Quit quoting a marketing department as truth. This is brainwashing. Not good.
 
Right, your savior Steve Jobs said it so it must be true :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

That was debunked several times. Quit quoting a marketing department as truth. This is brainwashing. Not good.
It wasn't debunked and I personally saw the issue on a Blackberry. Nokia phones had the same behavior. EVERY gsm phone with internal antenna has it to some extent.
 
It wasn't debunked and I personally saw the issue on a Blackberry. Nokia phones had the same behavior. EVERY gsm phone with internal antenna has it to some extent.

To some extent. It was proven the iphone 4 was worse to the point it impacted usability. It was a flaw. Remember consumer reports compared to other phones and didn't recommend the 4? Do you forget this quickly??
 
To some extent. It was proven the iphone 4 was worse to the point it impacted usability. It was a flaw. Remember consumer reports compared to other phones and didn't recommend the 4? Do you forget this quickly??
It didn't impact usability for millions and millions of user.... Fortunately not everyone had to cope with poor AT&T coverage in the world
 
It didn't impact usability for millions and millions of user.... Fortunately not everyone had to cope with poor AT&T coverage in the world

yea, in fact, i would've preferred another issue like this, which is solvable with a simple case, than getting a worse chip than others (unsolvable)
 
yea, in fact, i would've preferred another issue like this, which is solvable with a simple case, than getting a worse chip than others (unsolvable)
well, actually it can be viewed in another way: one chip is slightly better than other
 
It didn't impact usability for millions and millions of user.... Fortunately not everyone had to cope with poor AT&T coverage in the world

Right. Or just buy an accessory to make your phone work. Maybe that was OK with millions of millions, but doesn't make it any less a flaw.
 
well, actually it can be viewed in another way: one chip is slightly better than other

yea, but why there should ever be a better chip for the same phone i payed good $ for?
quite insane when you think about it (that Apple went through with this thinking that power users won't mind).
 
It wasn't debunked and I personally saw the issue on a Blackberry. Nokia phones had the same behavior. EVERY gsm phone with internal antenna has it to some extent.

Dude , I can drop bars on my iPhone 6s , if I cover it up in an unnatural manner !

You are still ignoring the flaw that was placement of the antennas on the iPhone 4.

For a guy trying to come across as tech savvy, how can you not comprehend this? It's a credibility issue.
 
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Dude , I can drop bars on my iPhone 6s , if I cover it up in an unnatural manner !

You are still ignoring the flaw that was placement of the antennas on the iPhone 4.

For a guy trying to come across as tech savvy, how can you not comprehend this? It's a credibility issue.


The amount the people buy into the "cult of apple" is insane. I'm not saying the way some people are reacting to this is justified (or sane) but to flat out defend apple every step of the way is ridiculous too. They are a for profit company, not some charitable organization. Also, they do make mistakes from time to time. AntennaGate was a bad move on their part. Otherwise I would have never received a FREE case over it.

An to tell a customer "try not to hold it that way" is crazy. Let them hold it how they normally would or want to! The same with people that put the iphone 4 in their back pocket, and the iphone 5 in their back pocket and then all the sudden they do the same with the 6 and it bends! Then people are saying "Stupid! Don't put the phone in your pocket!" Now they're telling you how you can carry your phone?

If Apple admits a 3% difference you can bet your bottom dollar that number is probably at least double 6% or triple 9%. They are going to spin it in the most PR FRIENDLY way possible. They aren't going to give you the "worst possible case scenario" and "make themselves look bad". They just won't no company would not saying I would do any different!
 
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