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Samsung would be beyond reproach in this "situation". Apple ordered some chips. Samsung made 'em. Apple accepted delivery, and installed them in their product. No one has suggested that the Samsung chips are defective. And I actually have yet to see any evidence that the Samsung chips deliver less than the advertised battery life. But leave it to Apple customers to turn a little EXTRA GIFT battery life into a class action suit. Spoiled brats.

Wow, it was a light-hearted joke. Calm down.
 
I am showing 2hr56min of usage today with 7hrs of standby and I am down to 63%. Doing nothing but texting and safari and a few phone calls.

That is not good battery life.

As a meaningless comparison... I'm at 70%, after 3:41 minutes usage and 7:23 of standby. On a 6s TSMC. No phone calls, though. My battery usage is mostly a game and FaceBook background updates.

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As a meaningless comparison... I'm at 70%, after 3:41 minutes usage and 7:23 of standby. On a 6s TSMC. No phone calls, though. My battery usage is mostly a game and FaceBook background updates.

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I understand this comparison isn't an exact science. However, with all of the reports showing the TSMC longer and the Samsung weaker. I don't think it's a coincidence we have roughly the same standby time and my battery is 7% weaker than yours with 40min less usage. I'm now at 3hr22min with 58% and 8hr20min standby.
 
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I understand this comparison isn't an exact science. However, with all of the reports showing the TSMC longer and the Samsung weaker. I don't think it's a coincidence we have roughly the same standby time and my battery is 7% weaker than yours with 40min less usage. I'm now at 3hr22min with 58% and 8hr20min standby.

I think it's particularly meaningless because a big draw on the batteries is often the cell signal strength, as well as the WiFi and Bluetooth radios.

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People talk about statistics like they were professors. If you have a hypothesis, and do like 9-10 test that all support this hypothesis then it's very likely that those test shows the difference.
It's well known within the statistical world, that if you have two hypothesis and a small sample of data of all which supports hypothesis A then it is very likely to be true.

Just an example. If the batteries are equally good the chances for a TMSC to win 5/5 test are 3%. To win 10/10 test the chances are very close to 0.
 
Always some nonsense when Apple releases a new product, yet no proof. Put your tin foil hats on and run for the hills people!!
 
Apple's response. Perhaps it can be added to the original story?

http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/08/ap...rmance-of-new-iphones-a9-chips-vary-only-2-3/

With the Apple-designed A9 chip in your iPhone 6s or iPhone 6s Plus, you are getting the most advanced smartphone chip in the world. Every chip we ship meets Apple’s highest standards for providing incredible performance and deliver great battery life, regardless of iPhone 6s capacity, color, or model.

Certain manufactured lab tests which run the processors with a continuous heavy workload until the battery depletes are not representative of real-world usage, since they spend an unrealistic amount of time at the highest CPU performance state. It’s a misleading way to measure real-world battery life. Our testing and customer data show the actual battery life of the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus, even taking into account variable component differences, vary within just 2-3% of each other.
 
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And this could all be due to slight variances in manufacturing between the two phones outside of the chips. A true, valid, and scientific test would need a larger sample size.

In the end, I just don't understand the stress people are getting into over this minor issue. It is definitely not worthy of a "gate" label.


More likely click bait to drum up more YouTube ad revenue.
are you really surprised ? You're a member of the staff, you should know exaggerating is the favorite sport here...

Has anything ever reported on MacRumors been worthy of that dumb label?
not really as far as i can remember ...
Seriously I saw a story on Forbes this morning with the headline 'Did you get a good iPhone or a bad one?'. Think about an average non-techie iPhone owner seeing something like that in a news feed and wondering if they got a crap iPhone. Does anyone really think Apple would ship a phone where under real world normal every day usage one phone would get 2 hours better battery life than another?
are you serious ? a bad one ???
What a wonderful way to raise the hysteria around another Apple product
Guys, don't immediately say this is clickbait!

Remember the issue with the 2012 Macbook Air - there were screen displays made by 2 different companies and trust me, it was the difference between night and day!

The OCD and knowledgeable types will check their new 6s's - if it bothers you, you're still within 2 weeks - return and replace!
... and here a good example of someone giving bad advices.
Good choice: keep returning perfectly working iPhone until you find one that fit your OCD
 
This has been the best press that TSMC could have ever hoped for I reckon.

Based on the amount of clicks the last article got of the performance "differences" between the TSMC and Samsung A9 chips, MacRumors is at it again making another click-bait article depicting a faulty and irrelevant comparison between the two chip iterations.
Wouldn't it be faulty and irrelevant if the test concluded there was no difference at all? Or 1-2%?
 
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It is funny, on a slightly older thread there was many posters disappointed that their new iPhones did not have the Samsung chip.

Now it is the opposite. In wonder how long until we see another story saying the Samsung is performing better in some way, then we see another shift.
There are many Samsung lovers on this forum ....

What test is showing that someone using say Facebook, Twitter, iMessage, Safari are getting a half hour or less battery life if their phone has a Samsung chip? I don't care about stupid benchmarks I care about real world usage. I have no idea what chip is in my 6S. I just know that I don't have battery life issues. I swear some people are bound and determined to find something wrong with their phone and will keep running tests until they do.
that's typical of this forum, you should already know ...
there are people trying to compare battery life using a benchmark performed in different test conditions....

I still didn't open my 6S. Is there any way to find out what chip I have without opening it?
open it ??? Are you serious ? :eek:
 
These are some of the worst "benchmarks" I've ever seen.

It's not just about screen brightness. It's about background processes (the new Spotlight indexer chews CPU like crazy, was it disabled on both phones?), possible battery differences, etc.

The only valid comparison would be airplane mode + all background processes disabled + removing the battery and putting it into the other phone.

That, and the battery percentage meter is completely arbitrary and isn't a straight line scale. Once you get down to 50% it starts dropping much slower.
 
To answer a very early question… The only "drama" that has been worthy of the term ****-gate over the last seven years was Antenna-gate. Apple clearly said there was no problem with the placement of the antenna and yet it was proven again and again where you placed your hand was reducing your signal. They admitted their guilt when they released the free bumpers for people. That was a worthy drama.

I suppose bend-gate last year, to some degree, could be considered a worthwhile gripe if people under normal use of their phone in their back pocket were having it just bend with normal use. But I thought that was a bit of a manufactured -gate as well.
antennagate and bendgate were the same BS.
All made up on the net as clickbait, fueled up by haters on forums like this.
In the real world millions and millions of customers enjoyed their iPhone 4 or iPhone 6/6S without any issue

Careful! sheep might be jumping down your throat... how could you? trader! android lover! apple hater! Apple is above and beyond, everything they do is right, it's always your fault.
if proved (and Im waiting for more serious tests) in this case is Samsung to be blamed ...
 
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antennagate and bendgate were the same BS.
All made up on the net as clickbait, fueled up by haters on forums like this.
In the real world millions and millions of customers enjoyed their iPhone 4 or iPhone 6/6S without any issue
Cant agree here.. There was an empirical test on iPhone 4 that was able to be done and every single phone lost signal when your hand was put in a specific spot. Worked 100% of the time. Just because people were OK with it and learned to live with it didn't change the fact that there was a design flaw.

Bend-gate was a little bit different in that not everybody who used their phone in the same way ended up bending their phones. That was a little bit more subjective and hard to measure empirically.. Yet Apple still reinforced their phones this year. An admission of poor design last year on the 6+? Possibly.

So though all these "-gates" do end up getting whipped up higher than they should in the forum-sphere.. It's not like they're just pulled out of the air.
 
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Apple's response. Perhaps it can be added to the original story?

http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/08/ap...rmance-of-new-iphones-a9-chips-vary-only-2-3/
very interesting.
A real world difference within 2% is more than acceptable
This has been the best press that TSMC could have ever hoped for I reckon.
only on forums like this someone could think that TSMC is inferior to Samsung as an independent foundry ...
Next year: Apple goes completely TSMC for their chips, just like they rectified the bendgate issue.

And then something else arises.
Apple is planning to go TSMC for other reasons...

Cant agree here.. There was an empirical test on iPhone 4 that was able to be done and every single phone lost signal when your hand was put in a specific spot. Worked 100% of the time. Just because people were OK with it and learned to live with it didn't change the fact that there was a design flaw.

Bend-gate was a little bit different in that not everybody who used their phone in the same way ended up bending their phones. That was a little bit more subjective and hard to measure empirically.. Get Apple still reinforced their phones this year. An admission of poor design last year on the 6+? Possibly.
the antenna wasn't the best design in the world, for sure, but the same effect was reproducible on every phone touching the right spot.
No antenna gate, just a not-so-good design (they did better with 4S).
Apple "reinforced" their phones mostly for marketing reasons with the iPhone 6S serie. If you don't sit on you phone, it doesn't bend.
Again, no bendgate, just a thin phone made of aluminium and glass
 
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Samsung chips are like a new pair of sneakers. You gotta break them in a bit! Sure, they're a little tight and squeaky at first, but a couple of laps around the block and you'll be up to full speed!
 
Having SIM card inside but at a location with no signal would make the phone drain much faster. But having no SIM card doesn't make it drain any faster.

I've posted my response to these types of comments earlier. In my personal experience, having my SIM out of my phone and leaving Airplane Mode off has resulted in a higher battery drain than turning it on. When I first got my 2014 Moto X, I had my SIM out of my iPhone and I left it sitting. I came back and after 24 hours, the battery was at somewhere around 70%. Switched Airplane Mode on, charged it up, and after that same 24 hour period, it was at 80-85%. Maybe something went wrong or it was trying to sync or back up, but that was just my experience.

Also, in iOS 8.3, even with Airplane Mode on, the GPS will stay on all the time. That could possibly have been another issue with my battery life, since I was about and about and it was searching for Wi-Fi networks to update weather and other apps that need location, and since it couldn't find them, relied on the GPS to find my location. I don't know about any of this being 100% scientific, it is just my experience and my thoughts about it.
 
the antenna wasn't the best design in the world, for sure, but the same effect was reproducible on every phone touching the right spot.
I think you may have left out the word "not" in that sentence above. Your placement of the word "but" I think indicates that you meant to say "but the same effect was NOT reproducible on every phone touching the right spot"…

Is that what you meant to say to me? If it is then you're wrong. Every single phone touched in the same spot in a place where a perceptible difference between 5 bars and 4 bars could be perceived - showed the design flaw. When it didn't show the flaw it was just because you were in a strongly 5 or four or three bar area. But it was 100% reproducible on every iPhone 4. There was even a jailbreak tweak that let you see antenna power and you could test it without relying on looking at the bars.

Apple's denying of the flaw was what warranted the term "Antenna-Gate".
 
word on the street is it only takes a couple years for the samsung chip to settle in and reach full potential

I think the problem with that is if you want to sell your phone next year when the 7 comes out and you are sitting there with a Samsung chip, buyers are going to hold out for a TMSC chip. It will not have had enough time to settle in.
 
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I think the problem with that is if you want to sell your phone next year when the 7 comes out and you are sitting there with a Samsung chip, buyers are going to hold out for a TMSC chip. It will not have had enough time to settle in.

Yeah, all the soccer moms on craigslist looking for iPhones next year are gonna DEMAND TSMC.:rolleyes:
 
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