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Samsung and TSMC iPhone 6s Chips Show Smaller Real-World Battery Impacts Compared to Benchmarks
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As a meaningless comparison... I'm at 70%, after 3:41 minutes usage and 7:23 of standby. On a 6s TSMC. No phone calls, though. My battery usage is mostly a game and FaceBook background updates.
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I understand this comparison isn't an exact science. However, with all of the reports showing the TSMC longer and the Samsung weaker. I don't think it's a coincidence we have roughly the same standby time and my battery is 7% weaker than yours with 40min less usage. I'm now at 3hr22min with 58% and 8hr20min standby.
I think it's particularly meaningless because a big draw on the batteries is often the cell signal strength, as well as the WiFi and Bluetooth radios.
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People talk about statistics like they were professors. If you have a hypothesis, and do like 9-10 test that all support this hypothesis then it's very likely that those test shows the difference.
It's well known within the statistical world, that if you have two hypothesis and a small sample of data of all which supports hypothesis A then it is very likely to be true.
Just an example. If the batteries are equally good the chances for a TMSC to win 5/5 test are 3%. To win 10/10 test the chances are very close to 0.
It's well known within the statistical world, that if you have two hypothesis and a small sample of data of all which supports hypothesis A then it is very likely to be true.
Just an example. If the batteries are equally good the chances for a TMSC to win 5/5 test are 3%. To win 10/10 test the chances are very close to 0.
Apple's response. Perhaps it can be added to the original story?
http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/08/ap...rmance-of-new-iphones-a9-chips-vary-only-2-3/
http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/08/ap...rmance-of-new-iphones-a9-chips-vary-only-2-3/
are you really surprised ? You're a member of the staff, you should know exaggerating is the favorite sport here...
not really as far as i can remember ...
are you serious ? a bad one ???
What a wonderful way to raise the hysteria around another Apple product
... and here a good example of someone giving bad advices.
Good choice: keep returning perfectly working iPhone until you find one that fit your OCD
This has been the best press that TSMC could have ever hoped for I reckon.
Wouldn't it be faulty and irrelevant if the test concluded there was no difference at all? Or 1-2%?
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Actually this site is a great community with many level headed individuals. Sometimes you need to step away from the news.
There are many Samsung lovers on this forum ....
that's typical of this forum, you should already know ...
there are people trying to compare battery life using a benchmark performed in different test conditions....
open it ??? Are you serious ?
These are some of the worst "benchmarks" I've ever seen.
It's not just about screen brightness. It's about background processes (the new Spotlight indexer chews CPU like crazy, was it disabled on both phones?), possible battery differences, etc.
The only valid comparison would be airplane mode + all background processes disabled + removing the battery and putting it into the other phone.
That, and the battery percentage meter is completely arbitrary and isn't a straight line scale. Once you get down to 50% it starts dropping much slower.
It's not just about screen brightness. It's about background processes (the new Spotlight indexer chews CPU like crazy, was it disabled on both phones?), possible battery differences, etc.
The only valid comparison would be airplane mode + all background processes disabled + removing the battery and putting it into the other phone.
That, and the battery percentage meter is completely arbitrary and isn't a straight line scale. Once you get down to 50% it starts dropping much slower.
Next year: Apple goes completely TSMC for their chips, just like they rectified the bendgate issue.
And then something else arises.
And then something else arises.
antennagate and bendgate were the same BS.
All made up on the net as clickbait, fueled up by haters on forums like this.
In the real world millions and millions of customers enjoyed their iPhone 4 or iPhone 6/6S without any issue
if proved (and Im waiting for more serious tests) in this case is Samsung to be blamed ...
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Cant agree here.. There was an empirical test on iPhone 4 that was able to be done and every single phone lost signal when your hand was put in a specific spot. Worked 100% of the time. Just because people were OK with it and learned to live with it didn't change the fact that there was a design flaw.
Bend-gate was a little bit different in that not everybody who used their phone in the same way ended up bending their phones. That was a little bit more subjective and hard to measure empirically.. Yet Apple still reinforced their phones this year. An admission of poor design last year on the 6+? Possibly.
So though all these "-gates" do end up getting whipped up higher than they should in the forum-sphere.. It's not like they're just pulled out of the air.
very interesting.
A real world difference within 2% is more than acceptable
only on forums like this someone could think that TSMC is inferior to Samsung as an independent foundry ...
Apple is planning to go TSMC for other reasons...
the antenna wasn't the best design in the world, for sure, but the same effect was reproducible on every phone touching the right spot.
No antenna gate, just a not-so-good design (they did better with 4S).
Apple "reinforced" their phones mostly for marketing reasons with the iPhone 6S serie. If you don't sit on you phone, it doesn't bend.
Again, no bendgate, just a thin phone made of aluminium and glass
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I love it. They don't deny that there is a difference when the phone is run flat out like gaming...
Basically if you're a non-geek and just look at Facebook and Ashley Madison all day long you'll be fine...
Samsung chips are like a new pair of sneakers. You gotta break them in a bit! Sure, they're a little tight and squeaky at first, but a couple of laps around the block and you'll be up to full speed!
I've posted my response to these types of comments earlier. In my personal experience, having my SIM out of my phone and leaving Airplane Mode off has resulted in a higher battery drain than turning it on. When I first got my 2014 Moto X, I had my SIM out of my iPhone and I left it sitting. I came back and after 24 hours, the battery was at somewhere around 70%. Switched Airplane Mode on, charged it up, and after that same 24 hour period, it was at 80-85%. Maybe something went wrong or it was trying to sync or back up, but that was just my experience.
Also, in iOS 8.3, even with Airplane Mode on, the GPS will stay on all the time. That could possibly have been another issue with my battery life, since I was about and about and it was searching for Wi-Fi networks to update weather and other apps that need location, and since it couldn't find them, relied on the GPS to find my location. I don't know about any of this being 100% scientific, it is just my experience and my thoughts about it.
If only there were multiple other threads in the iPhone forum that discussed this!
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I think you may have left out the word "not" in that sentence above. Your placement of the word "but" I think indicates that you meant to say "but the same effect was NOT reproducible on every phone touching the right spot"…
Is that what you meant to say to me? If it is then you're wrong. Every single phone touched in the same spot in a place where a perceptible difference between 5 bars and 4 bars could be perceived - showed the design flaw. When it didn't show the flaw it was just because you were in a strongly 5 or four or three bar area. But it was 100% reproducible on every iPhone 4. There was even a jailbreak tweak that let you see antenna power and you could test it without relying on looking at the bars.
Apple's denying of the flaw was what warranted the term "Antenna-Gate".
I think the problem with that is if you want to sell your phone next year when the 7 comes out and you are sitting there with a Samsung chip, buyers are going to hold out for a TMSC chip. It will not have had enough time to settle in.
Yeah, all the soccer moms on craigslist looking for iPhones next year are gonna DEMAND TSMC.