These are 1.8 inch 4200 rpm drives; the ones in MB/MBP are physically larger and faster. Unless they are planning to put these in a new sub-notebook of course.
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These are 1.8 inch 4200 rpm drives; the ones in MB/MBP are physically larger and faster. Unless they are planning to put these in a new sub-notebook of course.
I'm looking forward to new iPods. My 3G is still suiting me just fine, but if Apple releases a full-screen version (i.e. an iPhone without the phone part ) then I'll definitely be picking one up.
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This just struck me, and I'm sure it's been mentioned here on the boards as well, but there have been hints and indications and clues that the iPhone will eventually have games (wasn't there some icons or code or something discovered?). While that may be the case, it could also add legs to the rumor that the next iPod will be touchscreen and OS X-based, just like the iPhone, because those game clues could just be bits going into the iPod. It makes sense that the new iPod and iPhone would share a lot of code and things like images and directory structure. Makes sense to me anyway.
I am a firm believer that we will see a touchscreen iPod similar in formfactor to the iPhone. I do not believe it will have any wireless/bluetooth/edge capability and that will be the defining difference between the iPod and iPhone. If you want connectivity, get an iPhone. If you want a large collection of movies/songs/tv shows in your pocket, get an iPod.
I am a firm believer that we will see a touchscreen iPod similar in formfactor to the iPhone. I do not believe it will have any wireless/bluetooth/edge capability and that will be the defining difference between the iPod and iPhone. If you want connectivity, get an iPhone. If you want a large collection of movies/songs/tv shows in your pocket, get an iPod.
Or perhaps because you've never had yours fail, you're applying that as fact to the 99,999,999 other user's experience. I for one am very paranoid about the HDD, as I've had 4 ipod harddrives break. I bought an ipod a few summers ago and since then had to ship it off 3 times. Apple now has to transfer me to higher-up managers to approve my replacements because it of how it looks having that many replaced. However, I take very good care of all my equipment. I don't throw them around, etc. My wife's 4G also just had the harddrive die.
Now i'm in the camp that is fine with more limited sizes of flash storage and learning to switch out my media. If more people let go of the phobia of not having ALL there media, ALL the time, and tried rotating stuff out as it had been used, I think a lot of people would be surprised by how the practice doesn't live up to their fears.
DITTO!
I would love to have the wi-fi on the iPod, but I am pretty sure it won't have for the reason described above.
I really hope that they add wifi and bluetooth to the new iPods. That would make the iPod a little bit more like a laptop. It would give me a lot less reasons to take my laptop with me when I go somewhere. Also, having bluetooth would allow Apple to enable the iPod as a bluetooth remote, and sell more bluetooth headphones.
I think that if Apple just changed up iPhone design, took out the phone, changed a few of the OS visuals (more of an iPodesque OS), and added in larger flash drives,they'd will be able to make the gap between the iPhone and the iPod large enough.
I think that if Apple just changed up iPhone design, took out the phone, changed a few of the OS visuals (more of an iPodesque OS), and added in larger flash drives,they'd will be able to make the gap between the iPhone and the iPod large enough.
There is no way these iPods are going to be flash based. The idea is to make these devices cheaper. Flash memory gets expensive....fast.
160 GB would be incredible but necessary if they're serious about updating the iPod into a true video player. I fill up my current 60gb pretty quickly with just TV shows and a decent amount of music...
1st post... sorry it's so long.
I think that maybe you are hoping for something that would never happen. I would venture to guess that there are few people out there who would like the small storage capacity of the nano but the larger size of the video ipod. I think if the nano is redesigned to have a slightly larger form factor and screen, you would be the target customer. I find it extremely unlikely however that Apple would downgrade the capacity in favor of adding a few hours of battery life. Battery life is definitely more of an issue with a HDD, but it's a trade-off that most listeners with large libraries would be willing to make in order to carry more of their tunes in their pockets.
Do you honestly think Apple wants your media player to last forever? Honestly?
Hard drives that get carried around, put in pockets and backpacks or worse, dropped, are bound to fail eventually. Have you ever heard the phrase "planned obsolescence"? I think that might be a good argument for sticking with a more failure-prone technology.
That's not to mention the fact that dropping the disk size to 16/32 would be a death-blow to the iPod.
I personally have owned three ipods (3g 10gig - sold,4g 40gig - dead,5g 60gig - dead) and just had my most recent one fail. I'm waiting for a new one to come out that will hopefully hold the majority of my 110gig (legal) collection, if not all of it. Having some space for video would be nice but not necessary. I can't believe that Apple would suddenly decide to move backwards in the storage area when one of the main distinctions they make between models is the number of songs you can hold. Viewing a comparison chart of various ipod generations and models would lead me as a consumer to believe that while prone to failure, the 80gig ipod has the best value to price ratio, and would leave me looking elsewhere for a media device when the 5.5g ipod is discontinued.
There is no reason to take out a perfectly good, fast 250gig 2.5" SATA drive (current high end...) and replace it with a physically smaller, slower drive with less storage capacity. That would be asinine.
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With that said, I'm a collector of music, with a large collection that includes a decent amount of lossless music that I would like to carry in my pocket. I do not own a single CD player short of the optical drives in my computers. And those are used mostly for watching DVDs, ripping music from CDs, or installing software. My car stereo is a stock (VW, Monsoon) tape deck with aftermarket amps, speakers, and ipod integration. I would love to be able to carry 100% of my library in my pocket or car at all times. The primary reason I have such a large collection is that the ipod made it feasible for me to eliminate loose media, and still enjoy my music wherever I am. Until recently my music collection grew at only a slightly faster rate than the ipod's capacity. Now I need more than they can offer and I wait patiently for Apple to deliver. I really, really, really hope that Apple doesn't expect users like myself to just discard or ignore large portions of our music collections just for a few hours of battery life.
I think that maybe you are hoping for something that would never happen. I would venture to guess that there are few people out there who would like the small storage capacity of the nano but the larger size of the video ipod. I think if the nano is redesigned to have a slightly larger form factor and screen, you would be the target customer. I find it extremely unlikely however that Apple would downgrade the capacity in favor of adding a few hours of battery life. Battery life is definitely more of an issue with a HDD, but it's a trade-off that most listeners with large libraries would be willing to make in order to carry more of their tunes in their pockets.
Do you honestly think Apple wants your media player to last forever? Honestly?
Hard drives that get carried around, put in pockets and backpacks or worse, dropped, are bound to fail eventually. Have you ever heard the phrase "planned obsolescence"? I think that might be a good argument for sticking with a more failure-prone technology.
That's not to mention the fact that dropping the disk size to 16/32 would be a death-blow to the iPod.
I personally have owned three ipods (3g 10gig - sold,4g 40gig - dead,5g 60gig - dead) and just had my most recent one fail. I'm waiting for a new one to come out that will hopefully hold the majority of my 110gig (legal) collection, if not all of it. Having some space for video would be nice but not necessary. I can't believe that Apple would suddenly decide to move backwards in the storage area when one of the main distinctions they make between models is the number of songs you can hold. Viewing a comparison chart of various ipod generations and models would lead me as a consumer to believe that while prone to failure, the 80gig ipod has the best value to price ratio, and would leave me looking elsewhere for a media device when the 5.5g ipod is discontinued.
There is no reason to take out a perfectly good, fast 250gig 2.5" SATA drive (current high end...) and replace it with a physically smaller, slower drive with less storage capacity. That would be asinine.
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With that said, I'm a collector of music, with a large collection that includes a decent amount of lossless music that I would like to carry in my pocket. I do not own a single CD player short of the optical drives in my computers. And those are used mostly for watching DVDs, ripping music from CDs, or installing software. My car stereo is a stock (VW, Monsoon) tape deck with aftermarket amps, speakers, and ipod integration. I would love to be able to carry 100% of my library in my pocket or car at all times. The primary reason I have such a large collection is that the ipod made it feasible for me to eliminate loose media, and still enjoy my music wherever I am. Until recently my music collection grew at only a slightly faster rate than the ipod's capacity. Now I need more than they can offer and I wait patiently for Apple to deliver. I really, really, really hope that Apple doesn't expect users like myself to just discard or ignore large portions of our music collections just for a few hours of battery life.
I think you're the first person that doesn't want a full screen iPod. Where are you coming from?
As for me, I really want an iPod made to play video. I want a lot of space to hold a lot of ripped DVD's or shows I have saved off eyeTV. I would also love for the iPod to have a few Palm type applications like notes and a planner. I need a new electronic planner and I haven't been impressed by what is out there right now.
Last of all, I could really care less if it had Wi-Fi or not. Internet on the go is neat, but for me it really isn't all that useful or practical. I say keep that just for the iPhone so the products serve different markets.
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Yes, that would be most excellent. A fully usable calendar program that syncs back to iCal - that would be great!
Dumb question, does that iPhone have such a capability with iCal?
i LOVE the current iPod but for me i use it for what it was originally intended. MUSIC ONLY!. The current form factor is fine for me just a bigger hard drive is needed for my music. But yes if they do the iPhone look, that would be cool but not skimpy or flash memory.
Boring? It is a friggen music player and it should be about the beauty of taking your music, and lots of it. with you anywhere. The iPhone is for communication. Go buy an iPhone and hold all five of your albums on it.
The iPhone may not be PHYSICALLY released in the other countries, but they have seen and know what it can do, which is the point. If they released the 6G touchscreen iPod last year, sure the world could use it, but what's to stop someone from trying to mimic the smooth scrolling interface and put it into, I don't know, a cell phone? In releasing the iPhone FIRST, they established a new product and a new direction (at least I think so).
Basically what I think it boils down to is that Apple knows what it's doing. I think they did purposefully held off a major iPod revision last year to build anticipation for what's to come.
About cannibalization, I don't think it will be much if anything. The people that want the phone/internet will get it. Those that want a media player will get it.
NO!
I bring music to my office, business travel, vacations. I want 120GB or more. Many people use iPods not while walking but as their jukebox. The small flash ones are great for walking running and for on the move people. There are two customers here. I am one that wants to have all 25,000 songs with me where ever I am.
Right on!!! Which is why Apple has Shuffles & Nano's, for that crowd. And for us music/video/GB whores (sorry I did not mean to offend) there are the full size mini.
I was just thinking, boy it sure would be nice if they brought back FireWire for these 120/160GB iPods. sniff sniff
Using Contacts, Calendar Events and To-Do Lists with Your iPod:
http://macs.about.com/od/ipod/a/ipod_pda.htm
Umm.no.
Creative's Zen at the time of the iPod debut was 10 gb. Apple was one of the first companies to implement 1.8" drives in consumer devices.
They have not really been the leader in maximum storage. All companies who want to by these 1.8" drives will not be turned away.
Yes the Arch0s does use 2.5" drive, which results in a pretty bloated player. Arch0s dimensions are 5.1 x 3.1 x 0.9, so its volume is actually over 2.6 times the iPod 80GB.
quoting CNET
"The Arch0s 504 is bulky; must purchase separate kit to record audio/video; must purchase separate kit to get a power adapter; weak bundled accessories; proprietary USB cable; no kickstand; not easy to operate blindly."
If more PC manufactures included 6-pin firewire ports I think they'd bring it back. However, including a chip to negotiate firewire traffic adds to the overall cost of the device.
It's a nice feature, but a feature five percent of the market would make use of. Obviously from Apple's standpoint it should have been removed a long time ago.
Yeah, I forgot about the fact that FireWire is not on most PC hardware. My HP at home has it, so I figure everyone should... Heck, my white-box at work has FW too. Anyway...
If I recall correctly, Apple dropped FW on the 5G's for the reason of cost of another chip as well as the size of the chip.
Edit: I miss the FW.
I'm just curious, but do you feel that your experience with 4 HDD failures is typical? I personally have had 4 HDD iPods, (one 3G, and 3 mini's) and have not had any fail, the 3g is still used daily, albeit for shorter periods since the battery life is so poor. I can certainly see why you feel the way you do, but I don't believe your experience would represent anything close to what the typical iPod user has experienced over the last 6 years