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Boring? It is a friggen music player and it should be about the beauty of taking your music, and lots of it. with you anywhere. The iPhone is for communication. Go buy an iPhone and hold all five of your albums on it. ;)

iPhone holds over 750 songs (avg 4 minute) at 128-Kbps AAC format for the 4gb iPhone. Which is more like 40 to 80 albums. the 8GB iPhone holds over twice as much.

Not exactly five albums, unless your albums consists of 150 songs each.
 
If you do the math, I think the next gen high-end nano will sport 16G flash and the next gen video will sport 16G and 32G of flash.

Not in a million years. There is no question that the next iPod will have more than 80GB capacity. Consumers always want more. 16GB and 32GB nano maybe.
 
This is slightly off-topic, but I was wondering if people know if the existing iPod Nano can play video? The Macrumors guide doesn't mention it.

Also, from what generation on does the full sized iPod play video?

I'm trying to decide if I should wait for the next gen one, or just get an existing iPod.
 
This is slightly off-topic, but I was wondering if people know if the existing iPod Nano can play video? The Macrumors guide doesn't mention it.

Also, from what generation on does the full sized iPod play video?

I'm trying to decide if I should wait for the next gen one, or just get an existing iPod.

The Nano's will not. The only ones that do are the ones that came out after the iPod Photo. The generation is a little screwy in this regard because the iPod Photo was 5G and then a little bit later the video ones came out. Some call it 5.5G.

P-Worm
 
The Nano's will not. The only ones that do are the ones that came out after the iPod Photo. The generation is a little screwy in this regard because the iPod Photo was 5G and then a little bit later the video ones came out. Some call it 5.5G.

P-Worm

The iPod photo was still 4th gen. 5.5G was a minor update to the 5th gen ipod - longer battery life, slightly bigger capacity, brighter screen & search function.
 
I'm not fully buying the argument that the 6G iPod will be like the iPhone minus the phone, and that Apple can release it now because the iPhone has been out a few months -- Why would Apple only be concerned about the effect on iPhone sales in the US? the iPhone is not out on the rest of the world, and if they want to hit the magic numbers (and I'm sure they will) they need to make sure that there will no be canibalisation on the rest of the world...

They would sell far more iPods then iPhones. The iPhone is locked to a single carrier in each country, the iPod isn't. Not everyone is going to pay over a grand to get out of their cell phone contracts with other companies and pay for the phone and data plan. I doubt the iPhone will do better then the iPod internationally. If they are so worried about cannibalization, they will just release another 5th gen. iPod with bigger hard drives until they can get the international folks money too.
 
The iPod photo was still 4th gen. 5.5G was a minor update to the 5th gen ipod - longer battery life, slightly bigger capacity, brighter screen & search function.

There was really three different sub gens for the fourth gen. Grayscale to Photo to just Color iPod (Grayscale discontinued, Photo dropped from name).
 
I think you're the first person that doesn't want a full screen iPod. Where are you coming from?

As for me, I really want an iPod made to play video. I want a lot of space to hold a lot of ripped DVD's or shows I have saved off eyeTV. I would also love for the iPod to have a few Palm type applications like notes and a planner. I need a new electronic planner and I haven't been impressed by what is out there right now.

Last of all, I could really care less if it had Wi-Fi or not. Internet on the go is neat, but for me it really isn't all that useful or practical. I say keep that just for the iPhone so the products serve different markets.

P-Worm

I've seen other people around here who don't want a full screen iPhone thingy.

All I want is a music player. The 5G iPod is great at this. I don't have to look at the screen to operate it (like the iPhone) when I want to do a simple thing like adjust volume, skip tracks, etc. With touchscreen, you'd always have to look at it and it would be more of a pain.

Additionally, the current iPods get only like 3 hours of video playback on the battery (if that much). That is completely useless. My iBook gets more than that, and it has a 12'' screen instead of a 3'' screen. If I want to watch a video, I'll use my laptop.

I just want enough room on my iPod to be able to store all of my music. Right now I have about 4 gigs free on my 60GB iPod, but I don't want to replace it with a 80GB because that will fill up too quick. If they give an option for 120 or 160GB, I'll buy it because it should last me a good while (until flash in that sizes is economically feasible).

The click wheel is a very easy to use and intuitive interface and should remain in the iPod. There's no reason they can't update it to have an OS X based OS with some more GUI enhancements and Coverflow while sticking with the current form factor. This is what I want.
 
i think that the nano's will be the ones having the flash 16gb/32gb memory. the ipod 6th gen will have the 100gb/120gb HDD. that would be the safe way for apple to do it me thinks.
 
i think that the nano's will be the ones having the flash 16gb/32gb memory. the ipod 6th gen will have the 100gb/120gb HDD. that would be the safe way for apple to do it me thinks.

No way a nano is getting a 32 GB drive this year. 16 GB is tops.
 
I've seen other people around here who don't want a full screen iPhone thingy.

All I want is a music player. The 5G iPod is great at this. I don't have to look at the screen to operate it (like the iPhone) when I want to do a simple thing like adjust volume, skip tracks, etc. With touchscreen, you'd always have to look at it and it would be more of a pain.

Actually volume is controlled by buttons on the side of the iPhone. Skipping a track can be done via button on the iPhone headset.
 
I agree.

I think July was iPhone month.
August is iMac month.
September will be all about iPods and the Beatles. (and Apple TV)
October will be Leopard month (maybe see new laptops)
November & December...

And by all means, never EVER let there be a Logic 8 month. I mean, who cares?:(
 
However, remember those leaked videos of the interface of the next gen iPod? It's not fullscreen/touchscreen! So i'm depressed. They're gonna make a minor update to the current iPod, and put a larger hard drive in. :(

Those videos are now thought to be the leaked videos for the next gen iPod nano, not the full-size iPod.
 
Why is everyone assuming that this new Hard Drive will be used in an iPod... Maybe Apple will use it in it's upcoming Ultra Portable laptop instead?
 
Radio is now owned by a few big corporations and they play the same songs over and over again. I can replicate radio, with some songs played about dozen times every day, by putting 25 to 50 song on iPod in a loop. I don't ever listen to radio anymore when I am in the car.

The programming that's better than radio is podcast. You can listen to it or watch it any time.

This maybe so, but some people actually like to listen to talk radio, news radio and sports radio that is on the FM stations. Something you can't really get from a podcast.
 
I think you're the first person that doesn't want a full screen iPod. Where are you coming from?

My iPod is on the blink, so I am waiting for news before I get a new one.

If the new ones have wifi and a browser with a full screen, then hell ya, bring the full screen on.

If the new iPod is a 5g iPod but with a full screen then I will most likely be buying a 5g. I dont think I will be watching videos much (I have a 3g so I am not 100% sure) but I know that 95% of the time I am not looking at my iPod while managing my music. Next, Play, Pause, Previous etc will now have to be looked at if its in my pocket or on my arm while running.

If it has wifi and a browser though I will never get anything done.
 
Actually volume is controlled by buttons on the side of the iPhone. Skipping a track can be done via button on the iPhone headset.

But thats only on the crappy iPhone earbuds. I use headphones that aren't complete crap.
 
iPod Nano

hmmm this is a good thing, but i personally hope that the 6G iPod uses flash, im extremely picky with my music and 16GB of flash would be totally adequate for me, i would rather have more battery life than a huge HDD that i would probably never fill up...and i would also like a slimmer more durable ipod, and a harddrive just wouldnt allow apple to fulfill those things...

Sounds like all you need is an iPod Nano. Some of us have more music, videos, pictures &/or other things that we want to store on an iPod. For some of us 180GB is just a starting point. Currently I use 50 GB just for music. I plan to move all of my old 33's, 45,s & a few 78's to digital & then to my iPod. That would probably fill the 180 GB model & require other storage means for photos & videos.

Some people need more storage than you do. iPod Nano = solid state storage. Regular iPod = hard drive model, at least until solid state drops dramatically in price.

Bill the TaxMan
 
160GB sounds nice and all, but what would be the price tag on it?:eek:

Given technology it'd be fairly affordable, more like iPhone price I would say. They could offer 60, 80, 100, 160 if possible or just 80 & 160.
Interesting though...go Samsung!
 
Legal Music

Stop talking like Steve Ballmer. There are plenty of reasons why someone might have a large collection legally acquired. CDs have beeen around 25 years; some people like lossless encoding etc etc.


If my music was illegal I wonder if I'd want to store it on my iPod. I have a lot of old vinyl records & tapes that I plan to start putting on my iPod very shortly. My CD collection comes to 50GB. I know that I have 2-3 times as much of the old 33's, 45's & even some 78's that I will be copying over. This is because some of my collection is over 60 years old. The iPod is not just for the very young. I got mine because my new truck 6 1/2 years ago would not sell me an optional CD player.

Like you I do not expect everyone to have the same wants needs & desires of everyone else.

Bill the TaxMan
 
There is a great article by Christopher Breen about iPod 6g and iPhone at Maccentral's playlistmag.com:

http://playlistmag.com/weblogs/ipodblog/2007/08/6gipoduselose/index.php

enjoy it!

I agree with him. Apple needs to differentiate the iPod and the iPhone and the way to do that is not providing wi-fi unfortunately.

I think it needs to be more than just WiFi. I think the iPod should still remain much the same as it is now, just give us a much larger screen, multi-touch or any UI that doesn't require that ancient click wheel, and much bigger HDD space on the high end and flash on the low end or something.

I think the design of the device should stay pretty much the same, or just not the iPhone, so we can see the real difference between the two. Nix the bluetooth too, I'm not syncing 100GB of info over USB 1.1 speeds, and wireless headphones still suck.

Give me an iPod with a bigger screen, touch-screen UI, and a big fat 160GB HDD for $400 and I will gladly buy it.

Lose:
WiFi
Bluetooth
Camera
Phone
Price
Accelerometer
 
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