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I’d rather have a bezel as thick as the one found on iPhone XR than have that punch hole design. Imagine watching movies with that distracting hole.
When watching a 16:9 video with the full height being used, there will be black bars either side horizontally, one of which will include the hole.
I presume Samsung will provide the Hide Notch function which will dedicate the screen at the top and left of the hole, to status/system icons.
See top of my Huawei screen. Dark area in the middle of the row of small system/status icons is where the notch pysically is, but is unseen.

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"I don't want to fold my phone."

In 2007, I recall people saying "I do not want to touch screen. $1T later, we all know how that turned out.
 
From my experience there are a lot of people who truly believe that manually managing media via a file manager, changing their phone icons and installing apps from outside the store is 'exciting'.

But isn’t this more operation than actually future hardware.

This is what we should be excited about in upcoming future smartphone tech?
 
The amount you can do on them are endless. Using the note 9 with my Xs max it’s quite amazing the amount you can do on the note compared to the max. Both great in their own right but iPhones are quite boring in comparison
Please not this again.
 
True—that’s why Apple is willing to sit a generation out. If foldable screen tech was truly ready and capable of creating a great experience, Apple would be a lot closer to using it.
Well, they do have to sit one out. Considering that Samsung does their screens for them, Apple does need Samsung to do the work first.

An example
https://9to5mac.com/2018/12/12/thinner-iphones/

This is the screen used on the Galaxies S8 and S9.
 
From my experience there are a lot of people who truly believe that manually managing media via a file manager, changing their phone icons and installing apps from outside the store is 'exciting'.
Know what’s exciting? Being able to use a custom ringtone without needing iTunes.
 
Really? Please tell me what’s so thrilling about them?

I wouldn't call them thrilling but:

1. Always on display
2. I have a Samsung S8, it came from N and then updated to O and was not slowed down, Samsung will release and update for P on February, no worries that the phone will be slowed down.
3. When I bought it, iPhone X was not around and can't talk about the camera or display. But on every meeting, everybody wants a photo with the Samsung, iPhone 8 is not even close.
4. Again, compared to iPhone 8, a better display.
5. They came with fast charge (adapter included)
6. Home screen personalization
7. And Compared to iPhone X or Xs or Xr, this:

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Please tell us you’re joking. Anyone buying a phone BECAUSE it has that stupid notch needs to be comitted to the apple coolaid insane asylum.

LOL, so true. That black dot though isn't that bad. I could probably live with that. But the notch is absolutely disgusting.
 
Correct. It's ok to think bendable/foldable screens are a cool idea but NOT buy into the first generation. I don't see what's so bad about saying, "Ok, that's a cool new technology, but I trust Apple more with its implementation and prefer their products, so I'll wait to see what they do before I decide what I really want."

For me, there are some major red flags with what Samsung is doing here: 1) They wouldn't actually show anyone the device last year, just a dimly lit shadow of someone folding it and unfolding it. You can say it's for competitive reasons all you want, but it would have been pretty hard for someone to copy that in just a few months. 2) If the rumor is true that they're launching this thing earlier than they meant to to beat Huawei to the punch, I can't see that working out well for them. Rushing stuff like this is not beneficial. 3) In a saturated smartphone market that's contracting for ALL manufacturers right now, where people are balking at paying $750 for a new smartphone, I'm not sure what makes Samsung think people will pay $1500 for one just because it folds in half.

I'm 100% ok with Samsung launching this thing and seeing what happens. If the tech is cool (I'm not too sure if it really will be) and the software is crap (I'm pretty sure it will be, based on how rushed this all seems), then Apple can learn lessons from that and run with the idea but in a way that makes me want to buy into it. If it all sucks, Apple will never make one, and Samsung just did a market test for them. It's a win win.

I pretty much agree with everything you said, except for why Samsung thinks people will pay $1500 for it. I don't understand why many people need to upgrade their phones every year, but many do. Maybe its a kind of status symbol to have the latest tech. If so, they're going to jump on a foldable phone because it's different. Forget whether its practical, functional, or durable. And if it proves to be popular, I'm sure Apple will find a way to offer something similar in their ecosystem, as refining existing technology is something Apple has long been know for. For my part, I wouldn't consider this device unless it was free until I knew more about its reliability. In all my experience, flexible electronics have been notoriously unreliable, and I haven't seen anything that suggests why folding screens are different.
 
Come on Samsung, bring back the flat phone. This obsession with curved (and now folding) screens is annoying, I returned the Note 9 over it. Either that, or make a screen that’s actually truly fully and completely scratch resistant so I don’t have to worry about a screen protector.
As I understand, the lowest cost version of S10 will have a flat screen.
 
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I wouldn't call them thrilling but:

1. Always on display
2. I have a Samsung S8, it came from N and then updated to O and was not slowed down, Samsung will release and update for P on February, no worries that the phone will be slowed down.
3. When I bought it, iPhone X was not around and can't talk about the camera or display. But on every meeting, everybody wants a photo with the Samsung, iPhone 8 is not even close.
4. Again, compared to iPhone 8, a better display.
5. They came with fast charge (adapter included)
6. Home screen personalization
7. And Compared to iPhone X or Xs or Xr, this:

fullscreen.jpeg
Who are you writing this to? Your fanboys can be found on other sites
 
Seems about the same as the S8 and S9 from what I have read. Not too impressed with anything hardware related nowadays (Apple included). It all comes down to software and Android is still the same as it was 3 years ago. Apple is not all that better, but they have shown a willingness lately to make changes and I hope that continues with iOS 13.
 
Ya, this is our line of thinking. It's not like we are writing about Samsung frequently either. This is an event announcement. A pretty big deal.
Don't you think the venue was chosen for the purpose of provocation? San Francisco is not a cosmopolitan city with unsaturated customer market. Where's the pretty big deal on this?
(Brexit-London is now also no longer. Unfortunately.)
 
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OMG, live a little you stick in the mud.

Let me help you out on this one to move this forward:

"So you're opposed to innovation?"
"No, I'm not, I see other fields with room for improvement first".
"Ok, got you".
"There you go, but interesting to see what comes out of it".
 
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