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Take note Apple, 3000 and 3600 mAh, expandable storage, and turbo charge.

Battery life and storage is where the battle is at, and Apple is failing miserably. IMO Android is good enough that iOS is no longer a decisive factor, unless you are neck deep with iCloud or need an iOS exclusive app.
 
With iPhone growth coming to a stop, you'd think Apple would get with the times. 16GB was acceptable......back in 2010.........

Seriously though, the fact that iphone sales have to slow down before Apple leaves the year 2010 is absolutely pathetic. A $650 smartphone in the year 2016 with only 16GB storage is truly despicable. It would literally have cost Apple pennies to upgrade to 32GB since NAND flash is so ridiculously cheap these days. But no, the MBA types at Apple just couldn't figure out a better way to get people to upgrade above the base model so they decided to make the base model useless.

16GB for almost a decade while the rest of the industry is at 32gb, it's almost reaching Martin Shkreli levels of greed.

I get that Apple was trying to increase their profit margins from 38% to 40%, awesome go for it, and they want to force people to pay $100 more for their iPhones, awesome go for it, but make me pay $100 for awesome new features, not to upgrade that insulting 16gb :rolleyes:
 
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f/1.7 aperture?
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anyway...i think samsung did it better with expandable storage.
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Definitely yes, this is the flagship product that 'threatens' the iPhone, as a MR user I'm interested in what Apple is going against, and what the competition is, and enjoy discussing it with my fellow MR colleagues ;)
Iphone 7 with option of 16gb, 64, 128. LOL...with beautiful 8mp.
 
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I thought this is MacRumors ? What rumors? Most importantly where are the Mac rumors? It has been increasingly non-Mac and leaned towards iOS (which is rather tolerable) but now it's not even Mac nor iOS.

Moreover the article doesn't even pass as a rumor since it was announced at a trade show.


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It is MAC competitor.
 
Speaking as a software developer who works extensively with both platforms, I would say that Android is actually better than IOS the past year or so. Far more advanced, thoughtful, less restrictive, etc.

That is my exact experience.

I recently switched to Android on a Moto X Style with Marshmallow and the experience has been very positive. No touch ID, but for half the price of a 6 Plus you get expandable storage, turbo charge, 2-3 day battery life without a bandaid, and Ok Google. The competition is getting really tough for Apple, no wonder iPhone sales are slowing.
 
It still is. Samsung releasing a new flag ship phone that competes against the iPhone is very relevant.
Yes indeed.

Especially when the new S7 Edge has significant advances and far more resources than the iPhone has.

HUGE battery, 4GB RAM, Memory Expansion Bay supporting a whopping 200 GB!

A new 5.5" display in a phone that's smaller and lighter than the portly iPhone 6S Plus.

And so much more. I just did a side by side specifications comparison on GSM ARENA which resulted in the iPhone looking awfully dated to be kind.

Apple has its work cut out for it if they hope to compete solely on which is the superior phone.

Android runs fast smooth Lag Free and better on my Nexus 6P than iOS 9.x.x does.

The disappointing experience with the two iPhone 6S Plus models I bought a few months ago only makes Samsung look better.

I wonder if Apple will catch up with iPhone 7?
 
If you look at my posts over the years I have loved Apple for a long time. But the base model iPhone is essentially a useless phone since you can only shoot a few minutes of video before it's completely full. That's simply unacceptable. If more people didn't accept such garbage then maybe we wouldn't get stuck with it. 16GB was alright in 2011...but not 2016, especially not on a device that is supposedly 'premium'.

To be clear, I really think the base model iPhone should be 32GB. Realistically speaking, that's still only a few more minutes of video over a 16GB model- and I'm talking 1080p, not even 4K. That said, video is only one of the numerous uses that people have of smartphones, and there are plenty of people that get by just fine on 16GB iPhones. As you alluded to, that is why we're stuck with them- people buy them, and buy them again when they get a newer iPhone.

The optimist in me says that the iPhone 7 will be the one to finally move the base up to 32GB. The pessimist in me says that the base will only move up when the next highest model becomes 128GB- and maybe not even then. The realist in me will buy the 64GB because it's more than enough room for me.
 
Apple I'm sure will shrink those bezels. This only makes apple work harder which is great. I would love for iPhone to have that same water resistance.
 
I had a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 for awhile, and added 64 gigs of memory. Lot of damn good that did me, as most of the apps don't recognize any additional memory. The only ones that did were utilities that allowed you to move files to and from the extra space. Once there, files COULD be opened and used by music apps, and video apps, and photo apps, but you still had to fiddle around to make that happen. Every time you used the app, you had to take several extra steps to get to the stuff. It was my understanding that the Android OS could not automatically mount external memory because there was no hardware standard for "external" memory. External, in this context, means adding more via the memory slot in the phone. Has this memory restriction changed? One other problem with that phone was its OS could only be updated by the wireless carrier, unless you hacked it. I could do that, but sheesh. Why should I have to?
 
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Ha. I thought it was amazing at first to peek at videos and emails without opening them, but when I went back to my 6 plus, I didn't miss that feature at all. If Apple expands its usage to more apps and more features, I can see 3D touch being a thing for sure. But right now? Pathetic.
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My phone randomly shutting off or not swiping to get unlocked? If we're talking about apps, the fact that Apple Music deleted 5000 of my songs? The absolute **** that is iCloud and not being able to integrate between my phone and computer for some reason?

I'm not dismissing the fact that you have had issues (which are horrible by the way, I'm sorry you had that happen) but I personally have had no issues with any software updates, Apple services, or Apple hardware. I have had some pretty big issues with Android on my Nexus 6, such as dropping cell signal in areas where my iPhone had perfect LTE connection and taking 5+ minutes to connect to Wi-Fi. Also, when connected to certain Wi-Fi networks, the phone will randomly heat up, lag like crazy, and then drain around 2-3% per minute which requires a reboot and/or re-flashing factory images. These issues aren't enough for me to switch back quite yet, but they do exist for me and a number of others out there.

Everyone's experiences are different when it comes to software. Unfortunately, some have had nothing but issues with Apple's hardware and software, and others have had nothing but good experiences.
 
Take note Apple, 3000 and 3600 mAh, expandable storage, and turbo charge.

Battery life and storage is where the battle is at, and Apple is failing miserably. IMO Android is good enough that iOS is no longer a decisive factor, unless you are neck deep with iCloud or need an iOS exclusive app.

Actually, most of us over here ARE neck deep with iCloud. :)

As others echoed, not really sure why this is on the front page of Macrumors. I get that it's the most significant iPhone competitor, but it's ........ not an Apple product and isn't related to Apple products except that it's an iPhone competitor.
 
Yes indeed.

Especially when the new S7 Edge has significant advances and far more resources than the iPhone has.

HUGE battery, 4GB RAM, Memory Expansion Bay supporting a whopping 200 GB!

A new 5.5" display in a phone that's smaller and lighter than the portly iPhone 6S Plus.

And so much more. I just did a side by side specifications comparison on GSM ARENA which resulted in the iPhone looking awfully dated to be kind.

Apple has its work cut out for it if they hope to compete solely on which is the superior phone.

Android runs fast smooth Lag Free and better on my Nexus 6P than iOS 9.x.x does.

The disappointing experience with the two iPhone 6S Plus models I bought a few months ago only makes Samsung look better.

I wonder if Apple will catch up with iPhone 7?

Don't worry... next month Apple will shock the world by introducing... a 4" smartphone!

:D
 
Actually, most of us over here ARE neck deep with iCloud. :)

As others echoed, not really sure why this is on the front page of Macrumors. I get that it's the most significant iPhone competitor, but it's ........ not an Apple product and isn't related to Apple products except that it's an iPhone competitor.

Appleinsider also featured this story. It's not unusual for mac sites to report on competing products. I don't get what the issue is especially when there aren't other relevant or interesting Apple news to report. Unless somehow this new phone is hurting the spirit of some of you since it's quite awesome... and you'd rather not be reminded how Apple is falling behind?
 
I'm not dismissing the fact that you have had issues (which are horrible by the way, I'm sorry you had that happen) but I personally have had no issues with any software updates, Apple services, or Apple hardware. I have had some pretty big issues with Android on my Nexus 6, such as dropping cell signal in areas where my iPhone had perfect LTE connection and taking 5+ minutes to connect to Wi-Fi. Also, when connected to certain Wi-Fi networks, the phone will randomly heat up, lag like crazy, and then drain around 2-3% per minute which requires a reboot and/or re-flashing factory images. These issues aren't enough for me to switch back quite yet, but they do exist for me and a number of others out there.

Everyone's experiences are different when it comes to software. Unfortunately, some have had nothing but issues with Apple's hardware and software, and others have had nothing but good experiences.

Sure, I agree. But the "It didn't happen to me, so my argument for this topic will be different than yours" is dismissible at this point, especially for Apple. What I'm trying to say is this - iOS was absolutely flawless 2-3 years ago. The fact that these errors are happening more and more to an increasing number of people is disheartening. In other words - a negative slope.

For Android? Last time I used it (5 years ago), it was absolute garbage. But when I tried the S6? It was decent. In other words - positive slope.

I think that Android is learning more and more from its lessons and grabbing some tips from Apple, while Apple is still self-delusional in its conquest for the thinnest phone for the sacrifice of storage, battery, ergonomics, etc. Add onto the fact that the software updates have been unstable (I am now looking up reviews of the updates for major bugs and crashes, when before I would gladly update without worries) is troubling.
 
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I'm not dismissing the fact that you have had issues (which are horrible by the way, I'm sorry you had that happen) but I personally have had no issues with any software updates, Apple services, or Apple hardware. I have had some pretty big issues with Android on my Nexus 6, such as dropping cell signal in areas where my iPhone had perfect LTE connection and taking 5+ minutes to connect to Wi-Fi. Also, when connected to certain Wi-Fi networks, the phone will randomly heat up, lag like crazy, and then drain around 2-3% per minute which requires a reboot and/or re-flashing factory images. These issues aren't enough for me to switch back quite yet, but they do exist for me and a number of others out there.

Everyone's experiences are different when it comes to software. Unfortunately, some have had nothing but issues with Apple's hardware and software, and others have had nothing but good experiences.

I agree with everybody's experience being different. I hear great things about the reliability of the hardware...but I haven't found Apple's hardware to be any different. Like my current iPhone 6. The battery on it drops randomly and in big chunks. I run with my phone and used it to run half marathons using Endomondo and Pandora with 40%+ remaining. Now the battery drains completely in a 40 minute run. The Genius Bar says nothing is wrong with the battery. I've deleted and restored every app. Still doesn't work right.

I've loved the Apple products I've had in the past....but it feels like recently I paid more for their past reputation than the quality of their current products.
 
They never should've gotten rid of expandable storage; that was one of the few features that Android flagships had over the iPhone for me. Nonetheless, this is an improvement, so that's good to see, albeit a minor one. Still probably going to stick with the iPhone, even if they will never allow expandable storage (I really want it for the iPad more than anything).
 
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Spoken like a true 8 year old.

Speaking as a software developer who works extensively with both platforms, I would say that Android is actually better than IOS the past year or so. Far more advanced, thoughtful, less restrictive, etc.
Speaking as a developer myself. I would say that iOS is actually better than Android for the past 3 years or so. Far more stable, secure, faster, etc.

Waving the 'I'm a developer' doesn't make your opinion anymore factual than someone else's.
 
Agreed on the modular innovation. But I think LG kinda missed the boat with regards to the camera grip.

If you’re gonna plug in something that makes the phone thicker… why not put a big-ass photo sensor in it too?

Sure it makes it easier to hold and adds some additional battery… but look at that Z-depth!

Instead of just making it a camera grip... they could have made it a monster camera.

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Interesting idea! A big sensor would be great! But since the design is modular, it could still be implemented in the future.
 
Small imbrovements? they ruined the design! S6 edge+ was a beautiful design and now it looks like the iPhone 6
Samsung S7 Edge would've hurt the iPhone 6s sales by a lot if they just kept it the same design and added the 3d touch
 
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