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Apple doesn't live in the cheap market, which is what most of Android phones are, give some stats on high end vs high end. Does Mercedes sell more cars than Toyota?

Terrible comparison. Apple is no longer a "premium" phone.
 
Aren't iPads sourced using Samsung displays. How ironic that Samsung would bash their own displays.

And yes, the average person has no idea who sources the parts in an iPad. Ironic none the less.
 
There's a lot of confusion of the term "multitasking". What you describe is not really multitasking. It is running two apps, side-by-side. Multitasking in its purest form as the ability to run and process another app in the background whilst using another.

When one app is playing video, and the other is updating its screen data from the internet at the same time, that's also "really multitasking".
 
PC isn't a company or a brand, it's a type of computer. Where Samsung is bashing Apple directly, Apple bashing PC computers is not specifically targeting any company. #logic


They were targeting Microsoft since "PC's" were Windows based.
 
PC isn't a company or a brand, it's a type of computer. Where Samsung is bashing Apple directly, Apple bashing PC computers is not specifically targeting any company. #logic

Do the words apple or iPad get used in the commercial?

Was there an Apple logo?
 
Seriously?


Lol right? It makes me laugh that even the "smart" members of this forum have used such a ridiculous argument.

"Theres no apple logo so theres no way they were referring to the ipad, their ONLY competitor in tablets"

Sadly being obtuse passes off as smart on macrumors.

Yes boys and girls apple was referring to microsoft in mac vs pc, and samsung is referring to apple in these laughable commercials. Stop playing dumb its embarrassing.
 
Amazing how much that orchard has grown, given apple's marketshare was 10% 10 years ago and 10% today... you can give all of the personal observations you want, but marketshare is closely tracked and it's obvious that in the laptop\desktop market, apple has been essentially stagnant at 10 points for years.

That's because market share is a percentage based on the size of the total market at any given time.

You're quick to point out that Apple's market share is "stagnent" but they're actually selling more Macs than they ever have before.

But since you're so fixated on the percentage... is 10% of the computer market not enough? Does the Mac need 30% or 40% to be taken seriously? Or even to survive?

Obviously not... since the Mac is still chugging along after all these years.

Now let's remember the casualties of the PC market... IBM left the consumer PC market a decade ago... and they just sold off their server division too. Sony recently got out of the PC market too.

HP and Dell... the two companies with the most PC market share... both thought about leaving the PC market as well.

Clearly there's more to the PC market than just what your market share happens to be.

The Mac has 10% and is thriving... while other companies with more market share are floundering. Obviously the percentage isn't as important as you think it is.

BTW... Honda has about 10% of the automobile market... the same as Apple has in the PC market.

Is that good or bad?
 
No split screen multi tasking on the iPad after all these years

Apple should RIGHTFULLY be bashed for not having it

No split screen multi tasking on MOST tablets... not just the iPad.

There were 50 million tablets shipped last quarter... how many of them have split screen multi tasking?

They should ALL be bashed, right?
 
There were 50 million tablets shipped last quarter... how many of them have split screen multi tasking?

They should ALL be bashed, right?

Sure, why not. Perhaps that's why Samsung's ads bash a generic looking tablet.

Their comparisons apply to any other tablet, whether it be the iPad, a different Samsung model, or the cheap tablets you can get at the grocery store.

The ad didn't say any Samsung tablet would cure the problem. They specifically said to get a "Galaxy Tab S".

I have several older Samsung tablets, so this ad targets me as well. Not much different from how an Apple ad for a new iPad or iPhone targets not just the competition, but tries to lure in older model owners to upgrade for the new features..
 
Lol right? It makes me laugh that even the "smart" members of this forum have used such a ridiculous argument.

"Theres no apple logo so theres no way they were referring to the ipad, their ONLY competitor in tablets"

Sadly being obtuse passes off as smart on macrumors.

Yes boys and girls apple was referring to microsoft in mac vs pc, and samsung is referring to apple in these laughable commercials. Stop playing dumb its embarrassing.


Thanks for seeing what I was getting at.

Of course it's an iPad (even if apple and Samsung tablets were once thought of as indistinguishable, lol )

My comment was directed at more at the quoted user and the almost hysterical comment, when Apple use similar tactic, or used to..

For the record, I though the adverts were pretty lame.
 
About the multitasking ad: first of all, kids that young shouldn’t even be using tablets. They need to experience living life in three dimensions while their brains are still wired for learning in detail how to cope in that environment with great efficiency. There’s plenty of time for toddlers to realize later on that picking up an image of something is wildly different from picking up the actual object. Kids need to learn first about the daily hazards and joys of real, ordinary life before settling for reacting to what’s on a tablet display.

Seriously, do you think it’s all the same if a kid clicks on a display of some object or picks up the actual object? The kid is willing to assume that it’s all the same, until life teaches him otherwise! He is less able to cope with that discovery if he doesn’t grasp life in three dimensions early on. This is why engineering schools love scarfing up farm kids who grew up with a wrench in hand from the time they were old enough to pick the thing up…

Second, if you think that people who don’t even own a tablet yet will get the point of the multitasking ad, you are mistaken. That ad comes off as something created by people who get it that they need to impress the marketing department, which is married to the designers and engineers, all of whom are neck-deep in high tech all the time. The average consumer on the other side of that TV screen is a completely different critter, at least in the United States of America. The ad is noisy and distracting and steps all over on its own message, being a depiction of the worst possible aspects of multitasking.

Sure, being able to watch a live ballgame and keep up with email on the same screen could be fine. That’s not what that ad is showing. That ad is showing the insanity of two people doing two completely different things on one tablet at one time. In real life, we rarely try that even on desktops.

If Samsung only wants the business of “switchers” then maybe the ad will draw some response. If they are pitching to newbies, it’s a really terrible ad.
 
I agree. Useful but only in certain scenarios. I'd not much prefer my small 9.7 iPad Air showing two half screens, but in some cases useful. 5 Finger gesture to swipe to the next app is just as good. Allow multitasking settings to turn on full multitasking on a per app basis. Allow split screen as another option

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All this banter/arguments over a feature, both devices are very good, and there are pros and cons with both. You cannot expect every tablet to have exactly the same specs and features, surely? We have all seen the feature arrive, say Siri, then copied, thats what happens, thats why all new cars all have auto transmission, electric windows, traction control. All products evolve from other before them.

Is any Apple user who prefers the package of the devices, OS, and ecosystem going to change all that over a feature? Very few. If Apple is often late with the features, thats changing under the new leadership.

Agreed.

It's hardly a killer function but something that some companies might use as a "feature" because it perhaps lacks in other areas or they're just trying to find a point of difference.

Side by side apps on a tablet holds little real value. I keep hearing "you can watch a video and...."

Seriously? People watch movies whilst doing something else independent of concentrating on either the movie or the other application?
 
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Side by side apps on a tablet holds little real value. I keep hearing "you can watch a video and...."

Seriously? People watch movies whilst doing something else independent of concentrating on either the movie or the other application?

Consider the number of people who watch TV at the same time as using a laptop/tablet/mobile device...
 
Consider the number of people who watch TV at the same time as using a laptop/tablet/mobile device...

But they're not looking at the same screen, on a single device.

We all "multi task", using our iPads to browse/research something while our attention is on a different source of info (I was doing it while the World Cup final was on last night for example), but that's completely different to wanting ("needing") to be able to do it on a tablet.
 
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But they're not looking at the same screen, on a single device.

We all "multi task", using our iPads to browse/research something (I was doing it while the World Cup final was on last night for example), but that's completely different to wanting ("needing") to be able to do it on a tablet.

It would be good to be able to watch a video of something while a twitter stream were on the right (or left)
 
But they're not looking at the same screen, on a single device.

We all "multi task", using our iPads to browse/research something (I was doing it while the World Cup final was on last night for example), but that's completely different to wanting ("needing") to be able to do it on a tablet.

Looking at a calendar AND writing an email that needs to reference information on the calendar

Watching a financial show AND getting background info in a browser on a company mentioned

Researching hotels/flights/cars in a browser AND comparing them with your notes on other hotels/flights/cars you have documented in a spreadsheet

Reading a PDF AND taking notes about said PDF

Comparing information on one web page to the information on ANOTHER web page

Typing a phone number to make a call WHILE looking at the phone number in a website/PDF/email because the computer did not recognize the format as a phone number

Playing a game WHILE looking at a website with hints on how to accomplish the steps you are having problems with

Observing a tweeter feed WHILE browsing the web

Looking at a map WHILE browsing the web about information in that area

Doing taxes AND using the information in statements on your banking website

And on and on and on and on and on....
 
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Looking at a calendar AND writing an email

Watching a financial show AND getting background info in a browser on a company mentioned

Researching hotels/flights/cars in a browser AND comparing them with your notes on other hotels/flights/cars you have documented in a spreadsheet

Reading a PDF AND taking notes about said PDF

Comparing information on one web page to the information on ANOTHER web page

Typing a phone number to make a call WHILE looking at the phone number in a website/PDF/email because the computer did not recognize the format as a phone number

Playing a game WHILE looking at a website with hints on how to accomplish the steps you are having problems with

Observing a tweeter feed WHILE browsing the web

Looking at a map WHILE browsing the web

And on and on and on and on and on....

I can honestly say (and this is obviously subjective and not knocking your post) that I've never felt I needed to do any of those things on an iPad screen at the same time.

If I'm reading and email and then wanting to add an entry onto my calendar, its Home Button>Calendar>Make Entry>Double tap Home button>EMail app.

I would hazard a guess that it's just as quick doing it like that, than it is to try and "snap (a la XBOX One) and app/browser/whatever to one side, or 2 side by side (a la Windows 7/8).
 
This is honestly the worst commercial I've ever seen. Who shares an iPad with their infant? Why doesn't he watch the sports on the TV or the baby watch the show on the TV? If you have two shows on one device not only is that going to kill the battery, one of them will have no sound. Stupidest commercial I have ever seen :confused::(:apple:

Yep totally dumb, Just watch the Game on his phone? and let the kid watch his stuff on tablet.... Dumb.
 
I can honestly say (and this is obviously subjective and not knocking your post) that I've never felt I needed to do any of those things on an iPad screen at the same time.

If I'm reading and email and then wanting to add an entry onto my calendar, its Home Button>Calendar>Make Entry>Double tap Home button>EMail app.

I would hazard a guess that it's just as quick doing it like that, than it is to try and "snap (a la XBOX One) and app/browser/whatever to one side, or 2 side by side (a la Windows 7/8).

My suggestion: Stop hazarding guesses and try it out for yourself.

Here is an experiment for you to try:

1) On an iPad, open an email attachment with a 5 page PDF

2) Open the PDF

3) Now create a reply email to the person that sent you the attachment and comment on the contents of the PDF. Now this reply is to your boss, so you will put a serious effort into it. It will be a fairly lengthy reply. For the sake of this experiment, let's consider "commenting on the PDF" to mean "copying the last word of every paragraph into the email". Of course in real life you would probably read the whole thing once, and then read it section by section and offer insightful comments on each section. But copying the last word will mimic the required mechanics.

Try it out and let us know if you can think of any way to improve the iPad implementation of this not uncommon work workflow.
 
Does Samsung actually plan to run this ad as a paid placement? Or is it another one of these videos (like the "Wall Huggers" spot) that they only post onto YouTube, and hope the controversy generates clicks?



And most of the comments defending this piece of crap prove that Samsung still pays for trolling, as evidenced by the very recent join dates.

Is my join date recent? I think reaction to Samsung is over the top. Why should you be mad? It is a corporation insulting a corporation. Unless you think corporations have feelings. I guess corporations are people too my friend.
 
As noted several times in this thread, it was not two videos. It was a football website and a video:

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First you have to get the right facts.

Of course, the iPad can already do that since there are dozens of apps that present two UiWebViews where a video can play in one web page, and a website can be viewed in another (realizing of course this limits the types of videos that can be played).
 
My suggestion: Stop hazarding guesses and try it out for yourself.

Here is an experiment for you to try:

1) On an iPad, open an email attachment with a 5 page PDF

2) Open the PDF

3) Now create a reply email to the person that sent you the attachment and comment on the contents of the PDF. Now this reply is to your boss, so you will put a serious effort into it. It will be a fairly lengthy reply. For the sake of this experiment, let's consider "commenting on the PDF" to mean "copying the last word of every paragraph into the email". Of course in real life you would probably read the whole thing once, and then read it section by section and offer insightful comments on each section. But copying the last word will mimic the required mechanics.

Try it out and let us know if you can think of any way to improve the iPad implementation of this not uncommon work workflow.

I don't need to try it, because (as I mentioned), I've never had the need to do so and until I do, not having this "feature" won't affect my life in any way.
 
To me the main fault I have with the iPad is that it's a poor productivity tool compared to Wacom enabled tablets.

I hope this will change in the future but I really doubt it.
 
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