Let's be fair. Samsung can make an LCD panel in pretty much any size imaginable... and then design a device around it.
Apple can only order an LCD panel in pretty much any size imaginable...
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Ha, apparently Samsung copied Rolex too!
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Samsung Debuts Apple-Like Design Video for Galaxy S6 Edge
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Let's be fair. Samsung can make an LCD panel in pretty much any size imaginable... and then design a device around it.
Apple can only order an LCD panel in pretty much any size imaginable...
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Ha, apparently Samsung copied Rolex too!
I mean....I'm an iPhone user. There is really no way that I will ever buy a Samsung phone. But that company is just making it to where I will never buy anything with their name on the outside (TV's, appliances, etc.). I can't control internals on brands that I like. But I can definitely get a Sony TV over a Samsung.
A loser of a company? Billions in profit, solid products for the most part, and..,oh.... They MAKE some of the components for precious Apple.
Where have you been?
My point was... people act like it's so incredibly brilliant to make larger panels and thus larger phones.
It isn't.
It's simply a decision... much like choosing a color or material.
What an awful script
Complete failure, trying to emulate something without understanding it is bound to end in, complete failure. And the English don't pronounce aluminium aluminum either. ****s!
Complete failure, trying to emulate something without understanding it is bound to end in, complete failure. And the English don't pronounce aluminium aluminum either. ****s!
What's funny (or sad, really) is that you believe that Samsung did not give the agency any guidance and approve the concept.
What, you think companies just give a creative agency a bunch of money, wait a couple of months, and then gather in front of a TV when the commercial is first aired to finally see what the agency they hired came up with?
Ha. No, but I work in creative, and can see how easily this could happen without Samsung intending it to be sooooo similar. Both videos are similar, but they're also similar to other luxury brand ads touting the quality of their design. If I had a dime for every slow motion pour of metal into a die or a product casting a moving shadow...
It's also not uncommon for two agencies to come up with a similar piece at the same time without having any influence occur between them. Just a couple months ago I was about to launch a marketing piece and a few days in advance my boss emailed me a pseudo competitor's piece that had JUST gone live. They looked almost exactly the same. Our project was internal between myself and one other person, so there was no way the other company would have seen it in advance, and since their's just went live, we hadn't seen theirs either. But that's what happens when two companies in the same vertical follow industry trends. Theirs launched before ours, which made us the copycats. :-/ It happens.
And yes, I've also seen prospects who are like "can you make it JUST like this other thing?". It just doesn't usually go down like that unless it's a smaller company where a single stubborn person has a LOT of say about the project direction. Usually they'll refer to lots of other things that have a similar "feel" that they want, and the agency is tasked with making it unique to that client. Most companies will defer to the agency's expertise and mix that with their own ideas.
Of course I have no idea what happened on this project, I just think it's funny that the agencies appear to be copying each other when the products are already criticized for copying each other. You'd think the agency would have pushed for a different look. But then again, this IS the style you so often see with luxury designer label goods. It's lazy but it works.
You were looking at the media and bloggers. They don't need anything more than an iPad. Developers need something with a lot more muscle than a MBP.
http://www.sagernotebook.com/Gaming-Notebook-NP9752-S.html
To be fair, Samsung are not just a manufacturer of electronics. They started out importing sugar, went on to groceries and got into car manufacturing and have built the tallest buildings in the world. They're most famous around the world for home stuff and electronics, but it's only part of their business.
That, and the Korean government can't allow Samsung to fail. They are one of the pillars upon which the entire Korean economy is propped.
They suck fish balls, but they won't, and can't fail.
Ha, apparently Samsung copied Rolex too!
There are also a few other luxury goods commercials out there in the exact same style, especially for cars and other watches. It's also reminiscent of some designer furniture/sculpture videos I've seen. This style of ad is not pioneered by Apple; luxury goods with an emphasis on design have been doing it for years.
That's why I wouldn't be shocked if Samsung's ad agency developed the concept before ever seeing the Apple Watch ad. Surprised... but not shocked.
I like the pretty rainbow lighting.
Yes you don't like anything that Apple makes. It's ok.
All over the world, developers know the value of OSX - just pop into a good shop anywhere and you'll see rows of Macs. There's a reason Silicon Valley made the joke/observation when the crew was at Tech Crunch: "A banged up 15-inch MacBook Pro with ****** stickers on it? Everyone here has a beat up 15-inch MacBook Pro ..."
I was in SF [again] a few weeks ago, and we used a nice work site to pound away at a prototype all day, pretty big joint - about 85% Macs. Many of these folks weren't sitting around surfing the net, they were writing badass apps, coding in Obj-C, Node, Rails (a couple of slick startups we chatted up) - and in our case, writing C++ and doing VR design and development.
Speaking of Microsoft, a good friend of mine, author, MS VIP, is at MS Ignite doing a couple of technical talks, and uses a Mac (along with plenty of other notable people in the industry). It's the mix of a *NIX based machine with terrific hardware, a warranty and OEM support network, an availability of commercial software all mixed into a super flexible platform (VMs, cross platform dev, etc.)
A loser of a company? Billions in profit, solid products for the most part, and..,oh.... They MAKE some of the components for precious Apple.
Where have you been?
'loser' like my 'Uncle Dan' who is financially successful, yes, but lacks any creative bones in his body. his personality is a combination of his friends' personalities. he can't even make true friends. he's progressively more uninteresting and pathetic when he's drunk, and this is the only time he has any courage to hit on women, who constantly reject him.
Samsung is this kind of loser. might have tons of clients who swear by his professional services, but compared to my Uncle Jack who's a successful architect and backpacker with a million different ideas/jokes/stories, yeah.. and just like titans of tech, there are only a handful of uncles in my reality. picking Dan over Jack simply because his professional product is competent would still be a bummer of a pick. especially if you did it mostly because you love the underdog.
really, all my point was that Apple made a much better underdog to MS than Samsung does to Apple. i just feel bad for the younguns who have the right idea but have a less-than-respectful underdog to champion. (if you're gauging not solely by product competence, but by uniqueness, overall design and obsessive quality assurance)
so yes - Samsung makes great screens and internals (and fridges/microwaves), but that's not really the whole puzzle, just some pieces.
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huh...wtf are talking about "just some pieces" the samsung watch is all samsung from hardware to software. and not matter what the apple fans think, it still a much better watch then what apple is putting out. if you were switch the logo's around anf put the apple logo on the samsung watch and the apple logo on the samsung watch. everyone would sau the samsung watch sucks. if anyone is making their product in pieces it's apple. cause apple doesn't making anything. they just market the stuff for the most part. apple doesn't own a mfg facility.
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Still back to my point is that competition drive innovation... Many responses were that Samsung is blatantly copying Apple so that is not innovation.
Not sure this is exactly true but maybe more imitation rather than copying. Regardless the automotive industry is an incestuous with design. Hyundai and Kia have clear design elements from Merc, BMW, Honda, etc... Most consumers are pleased by the additional alternative options that have been created at different value propositions.
Is that not the case here?
Not sure this is exactly true but maybe more imitation rather than copying. Regardless the automotive industry is an incestuous with design. Hyundai and Kia have clear design elements from Merc, BMW, Honda, etc... Most consumers are pleased by the additional alternative options that have been created at different value propositions.
Is that not the case here?
Yeah and this the ad for Sony Xperia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evFxy-miblQ
Yes the ads have resemblence, but they are copying others too. Wtf.
Also:
This is a whiskey commercial, black background, 3d printer, gold whiskey OMFG APPLE COPIED THEM.
Jesus ****ing christ get a grip on yourselfs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evFxy-miblQ
Yes the ads have resemblence, but they are copying others too. Wtf.
Also:
This is a whiskey commercial, black background, 3d printer, gold whiskey OMFG APPLE COPIED THEM.
Jesus ****ing christ get a grip on yourselfs.
Hey you're bringing in logic and making sense...can't have that. And on top of that, you're not bashing Samsung and acting like Apple is perfect? OMG, somebody ban this person!
Lol j/k. Your post is pretty much spot on.
your thoughts and those of the poster you're quoting are missing the point. you CAN borrow ideas and compete directly - you don't have to make carbon copies.
if you can't see that the s6 and this commercial are carbon copies, then it's not 'people who are praising apple and think samsung is wrong' here. it's you two. i mean, come on. have you seen the phones? did you actually watch the commercial? it's pathetic. you don't even have to like apple to see it.
Samsung has a long history of this. who's really the one with wool over their eyes?
the F700 was pre-announced a month after the iPhone was announced. they were working on it at the same time, and the F700 was NOT something apple was intent on copying. it was a dumb phone. it had a physical sliding keyboard. it had a dumb OS. it was a clunky, dumb phone one step up from a flip phone. and it was NOT worked on "long before the iPhone" it was developed in tandem. and Samsung is documented as having known about the iPhone for quite some time, even spying on apple and code-naming their project. waiting. to see what apple (and others) did. they do this. all the time. with all their products. get over it.
Carbon copy? Kinda like how iOS 7 was damn near a carbon copy of android? Apple blatantly ripped off Android (I get why they did it, alot of the things put into iOS were actually needed) But what annoys some of the people on here, is the blantant double standard. Apple steals ideas from android and follows the likes of Samsung with bigger screens...and that's OK. With apple, it's not copying ..its "borrowing" yet when somebody does that to Apple...all of a sudden its wrong? Come on. Enough of this thinking that Apple is God's gift to the tech world. Apple didn't create everything and contrary to popular belief, they also copy, borrow, or whatever you wanna call it.
At the end of the day, every company takes ideas. Samsung does and Apple does it. If Samsung's dual screen idea catches on and becomes uber popular, you better believe you'll see it in a future iPhone. The finger print scanners caught on with the 5S and big screens took off with Sammy's Galaxy Note line. Samsung put a finger print scanner in their phone and Apple made a bigger screen phone. There's even a rumor of an iPad Pro. You can thank the likes of Microsoft and hell even Samsung for that. Surface Pro and Galaxy Note Pro are both phenomenal devices. Oh but wait, Apple isn't stealing or following trends. Yet if Apple came out with an iPad Pro and a year or so later rumors appeared about a Samsung Note Pro, a lot of y'all would be bashing Samsung and saying "DURR, SHAMSUNG COPYING APPLE!!!11!11!!!!! SAMDUNG YOU SUCK!!!!1!1!!1!1!!!" Blantant double standard dude.
Companies "steal" from each other all the time. At the end of the day, this is great for consumers. Competition is great for consumers. Y'all get so angry at Samsung over stuff that Apple has done to other companies. Just chill out and enjoy the battle between Apple and Samsung and see what great products are made. Samsung brought it strong with the S6 Edge. Like I've said before, it makes my iPhone 6 look dated as hell especially with the oversized bezels. Hopefully Apple responds with an awesome iPhone product this fall.
Let me get this straight. You are saying that Apple, taking their own proprietary and innovative phone design, and scaling to a slightly larger size -- "copying" Samsung by making the diagonal dimensionality similar to some of their phones -- is on par with what you're seeing in this commercial? With what we all saw when Samsung debuted their new lines of phones after the iPhone was introduced?
if you really believe that is true then I don't think we can accomplish anything more here. Borrowing is taking a concept and implementing it in your own way. Copying is taking someone else's work and duplicating it. It is the difference between inspiration and plagiarism. Get real.
Apple is no God, their **** ups are many, and their total insensitivity to customer requests can be infuriating. I am no fanboy. But to try and pretend that Samsung and Apple or somehow on equal grounds when it comes to R&D, attention to detail, and design scrutiny is just stupid.
Eh? Nobody said that Apple copied the F700. The point was (as you also noted) that both the F700 and iPhone were developed in tandem, with Samsung even getting a related Korean design patent in 2006.
Thus one reason Apple didn't want it in the trial, was because it proved that certain design elements were not unique to the iPhone.
If Apple had truly been confident that they were unique innovators, they would not have spent so much effort making sure that similar prior art was withheld from the jury. A party who's in the right, should not fear the truth. Interestingly, appellate judges DID have access to the banned evidence, and it played a part in at least one denied Apple injunction request.
In eight years of reading iPhone debates, this is first time I've heard this one. And documented, you say. (Which doesn't count fan sites.) Links? Thanks!
If it wasn't for the success of the bigger screen Galaxy Note, there wouldn't be a 6+ iPhone. The Note line really helped push the bigger screen phones into mainstream, resulting in Apple following said trend. Give credit to where its due.
The Surface Pro and the likes of the Sammy's Note Pro and Tab Pro are out. All awesome devices, especially for business users and students. And now here comes Apple with a possible iPad Pro. So yes Apple "copied" and they follow trends. "But a bigger screen isn't apple copying" yeah you say that but again if the roles were reversed and it was apple with the bigger screen first and Samsung came out with one, many on here would be screaming "SHAMSUNG COPYING!!!"
Apple also copied about 90% of what android was doing, with launch of iOS 7. So yes, apple copies and they also steal ideas too. Seriously enough of the double standard. All tech companies do this. They all steal, borrow, or whatever you wanna call it. Samsung does it and Apple damn sure does it. But for some odd ball ridiculous ass reason, its only copying when Apple is targeted. When its Apple taking other's ideas...its "borrowing" Yeah, you get real dude.
I'm sure when +20inch wheel came out, people made the same type of comments.
Just because it seems simple doesn't mean it's not creative right?
Apple does this all the time with little changes in design.
Doesn't Apple own the rights to the rectangle?
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Correct.
When those large phone first hit the market, people who didn't have them made comments that they looked to big to carry and it looks stupid holding such a large device up to your head.
After Samsung got the public to accept/want larger phones, then Apple flat out copied Samsung to regain market share. No if and or butts about it. No disputing this FACT.
