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Samsung Debuts Apple-Like Design Video for Galaxy S6 Edge

AlecZ said:
Yes, Mac and Windows are also better for the tech-illiterate than is Ubuntu.

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Hyundai has a lot less shame than Samsung. They sold straight up Mercedes knockoffs:
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There are Unix distribution that are mostly for high performance embedded systems, those are even more nose to the grindstone. Hey, why not just code out own OS :).

I find the whole an OS is for tech illiterate completely ridiculous. The OS is a tool to get things done. If it allows you to do that without getting to much in the way (or even helping you be more efficient, or comfortable while doing it), well great, it has done its job well.

Do you really want to thinker with your power drill or the OS on your consumer electronics (TV, stereo, car, they all have one these days), most people don't (even Nobel prize winners and embedded engineers). They just want to take their drill, or get into their car and use it.

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TechZeke said:
Oh Please, there was some guy in my Differential Equations class bragging about his One Plus One last week and I knew more about the internals of the phone than he did. I've been using an iPhone for 5 years. Give me break. With that said, the majority of the Android user base is probably on cheap smartphones, and most are FAR from being tech-litterate.

Generalizations make you sound no better than fanboys.

I actually had a Windows Phone(Samsung Omnia) before I switched to iOS in 2010. Moving to my 3GS felt like a breath of fresh air. Just as, if not more powerful, yet far more easier to use. Android also has its strong points, but other than customization Android didn't do anything better than my iPhone can for my uses. I like customization, but I'm not goimg to switch OSes because of it.
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Yes, because differential equations are such high end math... Learned that 15 math course ago... ;-). Yes, I've done way too much advanced math. And yes, I don't want to do advanced math when I use my phone; seems that wouldn't need to be pointed out.
 
All of these technology companies are borrowing product and marketing ideas from each other. Apple took the notification bar from Android, it's about to release a iPad Pro that follows the success of Microsoft's Surface Pro line, and it followed Samsung's move towards larger phones.

Let's not be such obvious hypocrites. :rolleyes:
 
youradhere4222 said:
All of these technology companies are borrowing product and marketing ideas from each other. Apple took the notification bar from Android, it's about to release a iPad Pro that follows the success of Microsoft's Surface Pro line, and it followed Samsung's move towards larger phones.

Let's not be such obvious hypocrites. :rolleyes:
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I get tired of saying this: If that's all that was going on that would be fine. It's why you don't see headlines saying Google copied Apple with x feature in Android, that just happened to debut on iOS first. Or if once mobile payments had started to hot up Samsung had decided that they needed to get in on the act too.

Pretty much the flagship feature of the iPhone 5S was a fingerprint scanner. So the Galaxy S5 gets one, too. Almost so Samsung can say "The iPhone isn't better? Finger print scanner? No, we've got one, too." Flagship feature of iPhone 6: Apple Pay. So Samsung announces Samsung Pay. This is direct, one-way copying on another level, made more insulting by Samsung's marketing that has implies Apple copies them.

If you think it's a two way street, the iPhone 6S will have an "edge" version, too. But it won't, and whatever flagship feature it does have, Samsung will ensure the S7 has it too.
 
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thekeyring said:
I get tired of saying this: If that's all that was going on that would be fine. It's why you don't see headlines saying Google copied Apple with x feature in Android, that just happened to debut on iOS first.

Pretty much the flagship feature of the iPhone 5S was a fingerprint scanner. So the S5 gets one, too. Flagship feature of iPhone 6: Apple Pay. So Samsung announces Samsung Pay. This is direct, one-way copying on another level, made more insulting by Samsung's marketing that has implies Apple copies them.

If you think it's a two way street, the iPhone 6S will have an "edge" version, too.
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Samsung is absolutely trying to compete directly with Apple smartphones and is trying to match the unique features of the iPhone (fingerprint scanner) so that consumers can focus on its own unique features (heart rate monitor, water proofing, whatever). Let's not lose sight of the fact that the iPhone was not the first smartphone with a fingerprint scanner.

The reality of this market is that typically, one manufacturer will try something new, and if customers want it, other manufacturers will follow suit. Let's not forget that if it wasn't for Samsung, iPhones might still have 3.5" screens. If it weren't for Android, iOS probably wouldn't have notifications, widgets, or custom keyboards.

Everyone in here seems so personally offended by what Samsung is doing. Are you stockholders or consumers? You realize that Samsung's actions here are not only guaranteed to make future iPhones better, but also offer you, the consumer, more choices, right?
 
Keirasplace said:
You really believe any car from BMW, Mercedes, Audi is a common man car! Proportionally to salary, those cars a way upmarket even from what Apple is offering. Most consumer goods in Europe are more expensive (even those made there) than in the US (including the Iphone).

If anything, the only reason elitist would be a worse thing in many European countries is that its probably talking about the 0.5% of society there, and those people have been there for a very long time.

Because social mobility is worse in Europe than in the US historically, those people have been entrenched there a very long time. The difference is wealth is not as big but it is more entrenched. This is especially true in Mediterranean countries like France, Italy, spain, etc.

In fact, social mobility is one of the reason why socialist and communist parties really didn't take root in the US; when you think theres a chance you might get rich, being against the rich is less interesting...

I think you perspective is very narrow. Historically, the Apple of the 2002-2007 Ipod era is slightly an aberration compared to everything that came before and since. In fact, the Ipod is probably their cheapest product range ever (though not the initial one, which was closer to an Iphone price range in 2015 dollar), and even then, it was way upmarket compared to other mp3 players. The way Apple acts now is a lot closer to the way it has acted historically.

The reason Apple is going back slightly upmarket is simple (the Sports watch is in fact less upmarket than the Iphone btw), differentiation and entrenchment. If you make something someone else can't do, or can't do well, you ensure your survival and your profitability. Apple has been in a forever battle against commoditization; that they've been able to fight it off for so long is in itself a testament to their unwavering vision.

BTW, gold exist mainly to please the asian market, nothing else.
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I see political view behind your arguments that we dont share in my side of the world.

And just to correct you - all the german autocar makers most successfull cars, are the ones made for the common people. The middle class. Like the Golf or Beetle.

The last time Apple went closer to the higher end market was before Steve Jobs return, which caused the company to almost die. Now you are saying the same approach is a good thing. And I am not so sure of that.

I see many changes in their product philosphy under Cooks leadership that I dont think Steve would have allowed.

Like a huge expansion of their existing products. How many different types of iPad configurations is there really now? Apple is struggling to make just one great product in each category now. So they compensate with tons of configurations. There more and more they do this, I think they will eventually reach a point of mass customer confusion. And other companies that can fill be simpler will have a point of success.

But right now Apple is on an all time high, riding on their combined success from the last decade. It will probably take time before the masses changes its opinion of them. But I already hear the complaints are starting to come.
 
I KNEW it was only a matter of time before they got a Jony Ive clone.

Congrats samesung. You've just stooped to a brand new low.
 
Keirasplace said:
You really believe any car from BMW, Mercedes, Audi is a common man car! Proportionally to salary, those cars a way upmarket even from what Apple is offering. Most consumer goods in Europe are more expensive (even those made there) than in the US (including the Iphone).
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Ever been to Europe? :rolleyes:

Mercedes, Audi and BMW cater to the 'upper' tier of cars here in the US, but in Europe, they're in every other driveway. To own a Mercedes in Germany is about as common as a Chevy cobalt, scion xB, Toyota Corolla, or Ford Focus is here.

And yes, they're more expensive, but they also buy cars differently than we do.

I personally drive one (a Mercedes), but I don't consider myself anything other than a 'common man'.
 
youradhere4222 said:
Samsung is absolutely trying to compete directly with Apple smartphones and is trying to match the unique features of the iPhone (fingerprint scanner) so that consumers can focus on its own unique features (heart rate monitor, water proofing, whatever). Let's not lose sight of the fact that the iPhone was not the first smartphone with a fingerprint scanner.

The reality of this market is that typically, one manufacturer will try something new, and if customers want it, other manufacturers will follow suit. Let's not forget that if it wasn't for Samsung, iPhones might still have 3.5" screens. If it weren't for Android, iOS probably wouldn't have notifications, widgets, or custom keyboards.

Everyone in here seems so personally offended by what Samsung is doing. Are you stockholders or consumers? You realize that Samsung's actions here are not only guaranteed to make future iPhones better, but also offer you, the consumer, more choices, right?
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I'm not saying Apple is first with all features, or that competition is bad. That's not my point at all. It's literally that: If there's a flagship feature in an iPhone, you can be damn sure it will be in the next Samsung phone, too. I can't think of two rival companies where one has it's sights so firmly set on the other. Considering Samsung have insulted me, as an Apple customer, (with their ads) and tried to label Apple as a copycat company, it's really irritating when they copy their features.

Like Samsung reminded us in the Note 4 ad, they've had big screens for ages, and have had plenty of time to develop the next big thing. If they believed mobile payments, a fingerprint scanner and 64-bit were the "next big thing" why didn't they debut them until Apple had? Or, why don't they release some of their other "amazing innovations" and let them stand on their own?

After all, that's what Apple do. Siri, Touch ID, etc all existed before Apply "copied" large screens. In fact, that's what other companies seem to do, too. You don't see Microsoft adding fingerprint scanners to Lumia phones, or Nexus devices with "Google Pay".

If Samsung believed the time was ripe to enter the mobile payments market then fair enough. But it seems it's sole reason for doing so was because Apple had entered the market. And if Samsung believes Apple doing something means it should do it too, why does it label Apple as a copycat company?

Either Samsung believes it's own marketing, and Apple - the "copycat" company - should barely be a spec on it's radar (making the direct copying unnecessary) or they're lying to potential customers.
 
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Apple should troll apple by making up a feature where you can shove the iphone up our asses and it comes out of our mouths...

and samsung will add it in as well.
 
I've gripped one of these a friend had, and it wasn't 'elegant to the touch' it was hard and finite and would hurt with more pressure. It doesn't have the sleek roundness of the iPhone 6, or enough flat width like the 4 or 5. Hell, the original iPhone felt better than it did when it came to grip. Apple got it right with the rounded shape of it's latest iPhones and the original iPhone.
 
youradhere4222 said:
Samsung is absolutely trying to compete directly with Apple smartphones and is trying to match the unique features of the iPhone (fingerprint scanner) so that consumers can focus on its own unique features (heart rate monitor, water proofing, whatever). Let's not lose sight of the fact that the iPhone was not the first smartphone with a fingerprint scanner.

The reality of this market is that typically, one manufacturer will try something new, and if customers want it, other manufacturers will follow suit. Let's not forget that if it wasn't for Samsung, iPhones might still have 3.5" screens. If it weren't for Android, iOS probably wouldn't have notifications, widgets, or custom keyboards.

Everyone in here seems so personally offended by what Samsung is doing. Are you stockholders or consumers? You realize that Samsung's actions here are not only guaranteed to make future iPhones better, but also offer you, the consumer, more choices, right?
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As a stockholder of AAPL worth few thousand shares, I'm very pissed at Samsung tries to copy most things Apple from the very beginning to now. We are not talking about the basic, now they are even copying the film angle, lighting, VO etc. they have crossed the line hundreds of times. it's getting very tiresome.
 
Lankyman said:
Your explanation sounds to me more a case of peer pressure and not wanting to be different from the flock - the most basic human trait. I find those that work in tech the worst of the flock for exhibiting this trait.
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Well, since there are more Android devises out there, then those that work in tech should flock to Samsung (or HTC or whatever).


Lankyman said:
I myself have moved from iOS to Android (which believe me had nothing to do with the cost of phones etc.) and I don't mind admitting it's been a revelation.
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Sounds like a case of peer pressure to me. ;)
 
SirCheese said:
And here you are doing the same. Ironic. :rolleyes:
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So you admit that you are doing the same, huh?

If you take your blinders off you will realise that Samsung sales have been decreasing dramatically for months. Feel free to try spin that in a positive way by writing a couple of words and adding rolleyes at the end.

Here, you can copy and paste one these to make things easier for you:
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
69Mustang said:
This thread is filled with so much ******** it deserves a hashtag.
#soeffenwhat

It's an ad, not an affront to someone personal sensibilities. Sweet Jeebus people. It's not like they're clubbing baby seals with spiked baseball bats.:rolleyes:

They finally started focusing on aesthetics with their flagship devices. They wanted to present it in the best light. Who does "best light" better than Apple? Of course they were going to emulate the style of Apple's ads.

Their ads aren't for Apple people so it really shouldn't matter. Their ads are made to convince Android buyers to get Samsung instead of HTC, LG, Motorola. You know, the companies they actually compete against.
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This IS the tech industry version of clubbing baby seals! ;)
 
Elvergun said:
Sounds like a case of peer pressure to me.
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What you mean myself and the other retirees?

Given that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I can't see why you're all getting your knickers in a twist.

I suspect it has far more to do with the fact that Samsung has upstaged Apple this time and you don't like the taste of defeat.
 
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