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Sorry, it's not, and you lying about one App supposedly being faster (without providing proof) doesn't change the fact the iPhone 6S Plus is the fastest phone in the world. Countless tests by people from numerous blogs/sites have confirmed this. Your single made-up scenario means nothing.

Says the person who hasn't provided proof himself. If you're really concerned about a performance comparison, send me $5 and I'll send you video showing the launch speed and time-to-interact times for several apps, comparing a J7 to a 6+. You, in particular, are not worth the effort.

Also, synthetic benchmarks that just spit out numbers mean nothing and do not translate to real-world usage. Websites can only load so quickly. Apps can only launch so fast. Saying the 6s+ is the "fastest phone in the world" may be true, but that's not always the case with real-world use.

Sorry, but end users who want to do real work or be productive care about having powerful 64bit Apps. People who do nothing on their phones except Facebook and Instagram can get by just fine with an inferior device. Like your J7.

That's a complete joke. People who want to do real things on their devices still are not going to care about what their device's CPU architecture is. They simply want the app to perform as intended and do what it's supposed to. Whether you're on a 32-bit or 64-bit device is 100% irrelevant.

You guys are such hypocrites. Always lying that Android is for power users but when faced with the reality that the truly powerful 64bit Apps are only on iOS then you claim nobody needs them.

First, define "you guys." Second, do provide a list of apps that are specifically tailored for 64-bit CPUs that also can't be found on Android (or at least an alternative that can be found).

Too bad Android doesn't have color management to go with those AMOLED displays. Cartoon colors perfect for the kiddies.

.....yes they do. Another clear sign that you don't use Android devices enough to even know what you're talking about.
 
And which Samsung devices are getting updates every 30 days? All of them? Only devices under one year old? Only flagships for xx amount of time and all others for yy amount of time? And you think waiting 30 days to fix an exploit is acceptable (best case scenario)?

I think you should go back and read what Displaymate tests and what color management is before opening your mouth again. A wide gamut and the ABILITY to reproduce colors does not mean that content will be rendered correctly. That's up to the OS, not the display.

BTW, I'm not frustrated. I just enjoy dismantling the trolls.

If you hate less, the denial in you won't be so strong. Samsung's Amoled displays are hands down the best displays in the business by every measure. You wont find a single non-apple source that says otherwise.
 
Why you would want to write notes when you can type them. It is faster, text is searchable and more readable and you can do it with one hand.
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Yes Windows got better nowadays but it is still completely different OS. Different in fundamental level.

If you are in a meeting and want to take a quick note but don't want unlock, type, and put it down again, it might be practical.

So I like the idea.. might being the key word here but it did peak my interest.
 
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If you hate less, the denial in you won't be so strong. Samsung's Amoled displays are hands down the best displays in the business by every measure. You wont find a single non-apple source that says otherwise.

Apple is going AMOLED next year using Samsung displays. Took a while to get there but Apple is usually fashionably late most of the time.
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If you hate less, the denial in you won't be so strong. Samsung's Amoled displays are hands down the best displays in the business by every measure. You wont find a single non-apple source that says otherwise.

I don't understand why folks would be a fan of the imitator and not the originator? Samsung is doing things like this:

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...design-figures-in-a-recent-patent-filing.html
 
What did you make of the 5c? , and the same iphone.6 design for the 3rd yr running. Just saying.. lol

Oh absolutely! 5c was a copycat of low-end phones and iPhone 6 surrendered to Android hardware design.

On contrary I think 4 and especially 5 are pinnacle of candy bar smartphone design together with few Nokias such as N9 and Lumias.

I still think Motorola Aura and few Razr2 variants are textbook examples of mobile phone designs that excel as high end fashion accessories :)
 
Don't worry your pretty little head. iOS users are currently installing a security update today. :)
I asked you a specific questions, why have you posted that specific link in reply to me saying I get regular security updates. Now if you don't mind troubling your pretty little head, respond...
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And which Samsung devices are getting updates every 30 days? All of them? Only devices under one year old? Only flagships for xx amount of time and all others for yy amount of time? And you think waiting 30 days to fix an exploit is acceptable (best case scenario)?

I think you should go back and read what Displaymate tests and what color management is before opening your mouth again. A wide gamut and the ABILITY to reproduce colors does not mean that content will be rendered correctly. That's up to the OS, not the display.

BTW, I'm not frustrated. I just enjoy dismantling the trolls.
Why are you so angry? Has the penny dropped that your beloved Apple is a shadow of its former self lazily producing clones of each other year in year out with the bear minimum advancement. Wonder if the 4.7 model will be rocking the 6 yr old ip4 screen still lol, they have the industries worst hardware, and you know why, because they know folk like you will.praise them to the hilt NO MATTET WHAT!!! Absolutely embarrassing on all parts.
The only way for them.to stop being so piggin lazy is to stop buying their crap!!! And actually produce something decent for a change.
 
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It is sad how harsh things get. Sorry about that.

Now about updates: I for one don't need the "latest and the greatest" Android updates immediately. That seems to not be the case with iPhone; you want the updates so you get functionality you're either "missing" or wanting.

My Note5 is so functional and customizable out-of-the-box that updates are relatively superfluous (with the exception of Security updates...those never are). And on T-Mobile I don't have to wait that long for the latest Android version, but again, I'm not looking for it anyhow.

Thus, I can do ANYTHING I can think of and (almost) EVERYTHING I want to (no IR blaster, expandable storage, or waterproofing :() with my Note5.

Sadly, the iPhone is not even close; I would have loved it if they did everything Sammy does just so I could get better integration with my Macs.

But standalone? Device-vs-device? It's not even a contest for me.

I'd have to give things up to go iPhone again, which right now is not feasible for me given the way I use my device.

Thank you for a well mannered post :)

That's fair enough, and also in fairness, the other manufacturers do tend to add things that already beat the "basic" Android way ahead of time anyway, meaning less need to have the latest version. The issue I have is usually things that are tied to Android itself that affect me. Way back in the Android 4.0 days, I had a good example: Bluetooth was buggy. It didn't stay connected to my car (everything before and since has done). It was a documented bug, and fixed in 4.1. But on HTC, I had to wait over 6 months for it (I gave up and got a Samsung Note 2, which it turns out had some other problem I don't remember and repeated the cycle again)
Nowadays it'd probably have been something like Android Pay, Wifi Calling or Voice-over-LTE, which all seem to be tied to the Android version (whether or not they need to be). VoLTE for example is going to be useful for access to 4G@800MHz in the UK's EE network, for better indoor coverage. Very nerdy, most won't think of it, but to be it's important and it'd frustrate me waiting an extra 6 months for my turn when Nexus got it ages ago (and iOS before that)

As a Nexus user myself I agree with you on iPhones. I love Macs, iPhones are a bit meh. After the iPhone 4 (and the antenna fiasco) I switched to HTC and then Samsung, returned to iPhone for the 6 because they finally sorted the screen sizes out, then got sick of the straitjacket and switched back to Android again. Everything Google do is just better right now. I'd love an iPhone to be better because it'd integrate nicer with my Mac, but it's just not. It's stuck in the past, and still has way too many restrictions. (Yes I know there are positive sides to the restrictions)
One tip on integration, get MightyText. It's ideal if you use Chrome on the Mac, but it's usable as a separate application with Safari. It's like the text messaging continuity thing, except it works on Windows or Linux too, so is actually better in a sense.
 
Thank you for a well mannered post :)

That's fair enough, and also in fairness, the other manufacturers do tend to add things that already beat the "basic" Android way ahead of time anyway, meaning less need to have the latest version. The issue I have is usually things that are tied to Android itself that affect me. Way back in the Android 4.0 days, I had a good example: Bluetooth was buggy. It didn't stay connected to my car (everything before and since has done). It was a documented bug, and fixed in 4.1. But on HTC, I had to wait over 6 months for it (I gave up and got a Samsung Note 2, which it turns out had some other problem I don't remember and repeated the cycle again)
Nowadays it'd probably have been something like Android Pay, Wifi Calling or Voice-over-LTE, which all seem to be tied to the Android version (whether or not they need to be). VoLTE for example is going to be useful for access to 4G@800MHz in the UK's EE network, for better indoor coverage. Very nerdy, most won't think of it, but to be it's important and it'd frustrate me waiting an extra 6 months for my turn when Nexus got it ages ago (and iOS before that)

As a Nexus user myself I agree with you on iPhones. I love Macs, iPhones are a bit meh. After the iPhone 4 (and the antenna fiasco) I switched to HTC and then Samsung, returned to iPhone for the 6 because they finally sorted the screen sizes out, then got sick of the straitjacket and switched back to Android again. Everything Google do is just better right now. I'd love an iPhone to be better because it'd integrate nicer with my Mac, but it's just not. It's stuck in the past, and still has way too many restrictions. (Yes I know there are positive sides to the restrictions)
One tip on integration, get MightyText. It's ideal if you use Chrome on the Mac, but it's usable as a separate application with Safari. It's like the text messaging continuity thing, except it works on Windows or Linux too, so is actually better in a sense.
Finally, someone with a decent sense of perspective...
 
Why are you so angry? Has the penny dropped that your beloved Apple is a shadow of its former self lazily producing clones of each other year in year out with the bear minimum advancement. Wonder if the 4.7 model will be rocking the 6 yr old ip4 screen still lol, they have the industries worst hardware, and you know why, because they know folk like you will.praise them to the hilt NO MATTET WHAT!!! Absolutely embarrassing on all parts.
The only way for them.to stop being so piggin lazy is to stop buying their crap!!! And actually produce something decent for a change.

Project much? Why would you think I'm angry? And I see, like usual, you want to avoid discussing any points I made. It's OK - you can admit you don't actually know what you're talking about and can't back up your claims with any sort of explanation or facts.
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Says the person who hasn't provided proof himself. If you're really concerned about a performance comparison, send me $5 and I'll send you video showing the launch speed and time-to-interact times for several apps, comparing a J7 to a 6+. You, in particular, are not worth the effort.

Not worth the effort? Then why keep responding? Does the truth bother you so much? Or are you upset because your previous failed attempt to show 64bit Apps on Android was an utter failure on your part?

I'm asking for people to list some Apps that they claim are just as good (or better) on the S7 as an iPhone 6S Plus. THEN I'll go out and test them myself. There's no point in me listing any Apps because the first thing you'll do is claim I intentionally searched for one odd example where the iPhone was better, and then claim my example doesn't count. By asking the naysayers to list an App nobody can claim I'm the one cheating.

Also, synthetic benchmarks that just spit out numbers mean nothing and do not translate to real-world usage. Websites can only load so quickly. Apps can only launch so fast. Saying the 6s+ is the "fastest phone in the world" may be true, but that's not always the case with real-world use.

Where did I say anything about synthetic benchmarks? Oh right, I didn't. Try and stick to what was said, not what you think was said. And you've got it backwards - real world use is where the iPhone excels over the S7.

That's a complete joke. People who want to do real things on their devices still are not going to care about what their device's CPU architecture is. They simply want the app to perform as intended and do what it's supposed to. Whether you're on a 32-bit or 64-bit device is 100% irrelevant.

Except you can't do them on Android because App developers are too lazy to spend their time coding high-end Apps. There's just nowhere near as much money to be made on the Android side vs the iOS side. Users might not care if the App is labelled as being 64bit - but they sure will care if it can do image, video or audio processing in real-time on their devices without having to wait for the processor to finish.

First, define "you guys." Second, do provide a list of apps that are specifically tailored for 64-bit CPUs that also can't be found on Android (or at least an alternative that can be found).

The majority of posters on MR who talk about their Android devices and how they use them. I can't count how many different people use the term "power user" when they talk about their Android device.

List of Apps? How about djay 2, Procreate or Pixelmator for starters?

.....yes they do. Another clear sign that you don't use Android devices enough to even know what you're talking about.

Sorry, they don't. I don't think you even know what color management. is. Why don't you link me to the proper developer documentation for Android that explains color management and how to use it. Because I've never been able to find it. Or point me to anything from Google that explains color management in Android.
 
I still find it hilarious that Samsung, pre-iPhone 6, misread what Apple was doing with "curved glass" and thought they meant curved screen, and doubled down on this idea...and now they are stuck pretending like anyone ever wanted that.

More than 60 % of sales for Galaxy S7 is for the curved screen version. In fact, the S6 would've sold more had Samsung made more of the Edge version. They misread consumer demand for it. When the S7 came out, they made more Edge version than the regular version. Look at how that went.
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DISAPPOINTING!! Basically same as the last years model. I don't give a sh*t about the iris scanner. I guess I'll wait for the iPhone 7.
Wait until someone 3D prints your fingerprint and use that to open your phone. Yes, it has already happened and all fingerprint readers out now are vulnerable to it. With the iris scanner you cant do that. Not even with a photo of the subject as the Galaxy Note 7 uses infrared beam to bounce off the retina to check if its a live person and not an image.
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Also, if Samsung would just remove their damn name from the top front and redesign that speaker up top then the phone would be so much more appealing to me.
You have to thank Apple for putting that logo there. They've complained about that in the lawsuit. They didnt have that logo there before Apple bitched about it.

Does every phone model need it's own VR headset, or are the headsets compatible across phone models?

This latest headset is compatible with all the Galaxy phones starting from S6 and up.

Perfect for the tears that will flow when buyers find out how badly the A10 iPhone will walk all over this phone.

Ha! Good luck using it in the rain. Eric strikes again.

Is battery removable? And how long does it take for the iris scanner to let you in?

It's instant.

I'm interested in seeing how accurate this iris sensor and algorithm is. If this works as good as TouchID or Samsung's current fingerprint reader, then this could be the deal maker. I think the Note 7 so far looks promising from the videos and I doubt the upcoming iPhone 7 is going to be much different than the current generation iPhone. If it does turn out disappointing, I'll be no doubt jumping ship after years of owning the iPhone and being disappointed as the years have gone by.

All the initial hands on reviews are saying its works really well.
 
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Glad you think so, considering you were vehemently shouting me down earlier. It's good to get to know someone's full story and outlook before jumping to conclusions, isn't it? :)
I Base each comment on their own merits. This was a good one.
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Project much? Why would you think I'm angry? And I see, like usual, you want to avoid discussing any points I made. It's OK - you can admit you don't actually know what you're talking about and can't back up your claims with any sort of explanation or facts.
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Not worth the effort? Then why keep responding? Does the truth bother you so much? Or are you upset because your previous failed attempt to show 64bit Apps on Android was an utter failure on your part?

I'm asking for people to list some Apps that they claim are just as good (or better) on the S7 as an iPhone 6S Plus. THEN I'll go out and test them myself. There's no point in me listing any Apps because the first thing you'll do is claim I intentionally searched for one odd example where the iPhone was better, and then claim my example doesn't count. By asking the naysayers to list an App nobody can claim I'm the one cheating.



Where did I say anything about synthetic benchmarks? Oh right, I didn't. Try and stick to what was said, not what you think was said. And you've got it backwards - real world use is where the iPhone excels over the S7.



Except you can't do them on Android because App developers are too lazy to spend their time coding high-end Apps. There's just nowhere near as much money to be made on the Android side vs the iOS side. Users might not care if the App is labelled as being 64bit - but they sure will care if it can do image, video or audio processing in real-time on their devices without having to wait for the processor to finish.



The majority of posters on MR who talk about their Android devices and how they use them. I can't count how many different people use the term "power user" when they talk about their Android device.

List of Apps? How about djay 2, Procreate or Pixelmator for starters?



Sorry, they don't. I don't think you even know what color management. is. Why don't you link me to the proper developer documentation for Android that explains color management and how to use it. Because I've never been able to find it. Or point me to anything from Google that explains color management in Android.
No point mate, your blinkered, biased , hate filled vitriol would only make you miss read it, taken the bits you want, rewrite it, then spout more BS on here. Go and have a walk in the sun fella, you will feel better.. it's only a frikkin phone. Jeez..
 
I don't understand why folks would be a fan of the imitator and not the originator?

You mean, why would some folks be a fan of any company imitating another company's success with larger phones, smaller tablets, and AMOLED displays, especially after dissing such features? ;)


So what is it you think they're doing?

Hint: it's apparently a patent for electrically active bands that can attach to wrist devices like the AW, among many others. The pictures are in there as examples of wrist band attachment methods that an active band could use. Most importantly, it's a utility patent about such bands, not a design patent for any watch it might attach to.

Likewise, Apple has included pictures of known car and train models in its past utility patents about using devices in transportation. That doesn't mean they're trying to patent those vehicles.

Headlines are often click bait. They don't always mean what you think.
 
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I like seeing tech news in general on here. So many stuck up people in here that should appreciate competition.
I've had iPhones since 2008 and deeply in the ecosystem. I've been curious about switching for some time now since samsungs designs are pretty sexy in comparison to the aging iPhone like. Bezels are horrible and the Phone looks dated in comparison to this. Smaller footprint/bigger screen/bigger battery/ edge less display. I do hate the Samsung logo on the phone but other than that it's leaps over the iPhone in terms of design.
Anybody know if android phones can do AirPlay through an app? I use AirPlay everyday and don't know if I can loose that. Let alone my Applewatch/MacBook Pro whole ecosystem. Sigh
Apple needs to open its eyes and push again. Only thing keeping me around are the Apple Watch and MacBooks. The apps I spent lots of money on too.

You are in the same boat as many of us. Tough pickle about the Apple watch though. I'm going to give Apple till september incase they have some hidden feature, but if not, I'm going to jump to a Samsung note. I figure if I don't like it after a year or so I can switch back, but I really don't want to support Apple if they again release another lame duck iphone. The only think I can do is speak with my wallet.

imessages will be sad to lose as I like the texting from my Macbook air, but so many of my friends have switched to what's app, that's it's been the go to for a while now.

It's sad because i'm now considering switching from Macs or going to a hackingtosh. They are falling behind on so many things, but I still think OSX is amazing and the last golden nugget that Tim hasn't destroyed.
 
I really thought Tim was a good guy for Apple. But seeing failure after failure and Apple changing into a money machine, it's time for people with vision and love for high tech at the top. About every other tech company is outpacing Apple at the moment. What are they doing all day?


He has been anything but a failure. His job is to make Apple as much money as possible. As CEO he has an obligation to investors. He knows he has a large customer base, many of which will buy anything with an Apple logo. Many more casual buyers only know "the Apple one is best, right?" He is in a sweet heart position. He can sell yesterdays tech (much less expensive) at tomorrows prices and only the die hards, like on this forum will notice, and a good portion of them will make excuses, defend Apple. No, Tim has done a great job!
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I think the struggle I have is I would gladly switch to the Note 7, and this is coming from an Apple fanatic. But I have so much invested into Apple with their hardware, with the iPad, iPhone, Apple Watch, Mac, ect... And their ecosystem works rather well how they all communicate and sync together. When you factor all those together, it's hard to pull away, unless you have only invested in the iPhone itself. It's like a cult that won't let me Go.

And both Apple and Samsung
Have advantages/disadvantages. I'm hoping for the September Key Note to bring something special we have NOT been expecting.

They are counting on just that imo.
 
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I agree.

Sadly Apple has let that go also.

My Nexus 6P is faster, smoother, and offers a better experience than my iPhone 6S Plus.

Once upon a time, no one could provide the exceptional world class experience that Apple did. I know, I enjoyed it.

But that was then and this is now... My Nexus 6P, Galaxy S7 Edge, LG V10 and Droid Maxx 2 all provide an exceptional experience.

Apple... Not so much.

Your Nexus 6P is 2.4 times slower than 6s Plus, according to Kraken and Google Octane tests: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9820/the-google-nexus-6p-review/3
 
Another case of Engineering Test vs. Actual Use and Feel (aka Impression).
I can sit my iPhone 6S+ side by side to my Nexus 6P. There are things each will do faster than the other. The biggest benefit to my eye; I can turn off the annoying animations on the Nexus that plague my iPhone.
You can turn of animations on the iPhone as well.
It's controlled under Settings/General/Accessibility.
I have all animations turned off... they're pointless.
 
You can turn of animations on the iPhone as well.
It's controlled under Settings/General/Accessibility.
I have all animations turned off... they're pointless.

Turn off? Not hardly. You can scale them back a bit. However, that isn't even close to off.
I miss the spotlight bug where you could turn animations completely off. It made my iPhone feel really snappy and fast. Apple needs to bring that as an option: On, Reduced, Off.
 
Project much? Why would you think I'm angry? And I see, like usual, you want to avoid discussing any points I made. It's OK - you can admit you don't actually know what you're talking about and can't back up your claims with any sort of explanation or facts.

They've been explained already. You're cherry picking what you want to read / believe.

Not worth the effort? Then why keep responding? Does the truth bother you so much? Or are you upset because your previous failed attempt to show 64bit Apps on Android was an utter failure on your part?

Replying to you takes less than a minute versus putting forth additional efforts.

I'm asking for people to list some Apps that they claim are just as good (or better) on the S7 as an iPhone 6S Plus. THEN I'll go out and test them myself. There's no point in me listing any Apps because the first thing you'll do is claim I intentionally searched for one odd example where the iPhone was better, and then claim my example doesn't count. By asking the naysayers to list an App nobody can claim I'm the one cheating.

It's an irrelevant comparison, really. Apps can only launch so quickly. An S7 and 6s+ are either similar or the S7 wins. Again, an easy example is Facebook on Android launching versus Facebook for iOS launching. The iOS app is bloated AF.

Where did I say anything about synthetic benchmarks? Oh right, I didn't. Try and stick to what was said, not what you think was said. And you've got it backwards - real world use is where the iPhone excels over the S7.

You mentioned: "Countless tests by people from numerous blogs/sites have confirmed this." This implies synthetic benchmarks, because real-world comparisons are negligible or in Android's favor.

Except you can't do them on Android because App developers are too lazy to spend their time coding high-end Apps. There's just nowhere near as much money to be made on the Android side vs the iOS side. Users might not care if the App is labelled as being 64bit - but they sure will care if it can do image, video or audio processing in real-time on their devices without having to wait for the processor to finish.

More confirmation that you've never browsed the Google Play store in recent years.

List of Apps? How about djay 2, Procreate or Pixelmator for starters?

djay 2 is already available... The latter two aren't, but alternatives are.

Sorry, they don't. I don't think you even know what color management. is. Why don't you link me to the proper developer documentation for Android that explains color management and how to use it. Because I've never been able to find it. Or point me to anything from Google that explains color management in Android.

How about you do your own research. Nearly every response from yours shows that you've done very little -- if any -- of this.

There are too many indications that you are a trolling iOS fanboy who knows nothing else. Enjoy your iOS vs. Android Internet battles. Here's a cookie for your achievements.

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I'm now officially done responding to you.
 
Additionally, the Galaxy Note7 features a built-in iris scanner for unlocking the smartphone with your eyes,
Does anyone have experience with iris scanning technology like this? I wonder how reliable and consistent it is. Does it offer any significant benefit over a fingerprint reader such as Touch ID?
 
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