Samsung Debuts Galaxy Note7 With New S Pen, Gear VR Headset, and Gear 360 Camera

[EricTheHalfBee]

How about you do your own homework...
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=64 bit games&c=apps
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=64 bit apps&c=apps

And these are just the ones that declare it... not a requirement of the Play store.

Sigh. Why do I waste my time trying to explain things to non-developers?

Using your logic I could claim that virtually all Apps in The App Store are 64bit just because Apple has told developers that all Apps submitted must have 64bit support (by Feb 1, 2015).

Targeting your App for 64bit devices is NOT the same as actually coding to specifically take advantage of 64bit. And this is what the Apps you listed in your links are: regular, run-of-the-mill simple games and Apps that have added support to run on 64bit devices. They are NOT 64bit Apps.

Did you REALLY think it was going to be as easy as performing such a simple search?


Opps, I see you edited your comment and added even more proof that you're not a developer. Sorry, but using an SDK doesn't make an App 64 bit. All it makes is a "compatible" App than can be targeted to run on 64bit processors.

 

[dk001]

No. Those are valid entries. How many are from the same company and does the company or companies have expectation to innovate or introduce an industry changing product/service every year?

Same company doesn't have to. However the stock holders and a significant portion of the using public expect it. Once the gloss wears off you either innovate or stagnate. Apple isn't innovating.

 

[Cloudane]

I didn't know I had to state the obvious. I mean Apps written by developers, not Google (or Apple).

We get it...you don't have any answers so you try to deflect. Or you know, you could come up with a list of native 64bit Android Apps that developers have written to shut me up. That is, if you could....
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Like the Note 5 from last year? Released in August, Marshmallow released in October, and Note 5 finally started getting it in Apr 2016. A full 6 months after it was released. Do you call 6 months a "short time"?

Lol.. attacked from both sides... not sure if anyone around here bothers reading posts, but basically, Samsung being incredibly slow at releasing updates was my point in the first place. Thanks for agreeing with me c:

The other point was that when they DO release updates, they prioritise (by a long way) the latest gen. Where they can, they release the latest gen with the latest OS, as then it's a selling point. (The Note 5 won't get it for ages, I shouldn't think)
The new OS being 2 months away must have meant they didn't bother marketing it that way at all on that specific occasion.

But as usual for MacRumors, it's basically like talking to a wall (albeit quite an aggressive one). This is proving way too much effort for what was originally meant to be "hey guys that's quite a neat phone but bear in mind if you want your OS updates in a timely fashion you might want to consider a Nexus or iPhone instead"
Wish I'd never bothered

 

[BeSweeet]

Sorry, I don't have a cheap J7 - I have an S7. Do you want to stay on topic here and compare the flagship S7 to the iPhone 6S?

Well, considering a much weaker device is still faster, no additional comparison needs to be done for this app.

There are virtually no 64bit Android Apps therefore having a 64bit processor in an Android phone is pointless. I'd love for you to list off all the native 64bit Apps on Android that offer powerful features that take advantage of these new 64bit processors.

And? End users won't give a single crap about that. You're just bringing up anything that you can now.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

+1 to your point

And to say "no one wants that" is grouch speak for I don't want it. Obviously anyone who buys the edge wants it.

Also people who are saying the curved edges are a gimmick are a bit off the mark. The curved edges makes the phone look cool. Remember when Apple was selling things because they were cool? If the curved edge does nothing more than make me like my phone and was a reason for my purchase of the S7e it did it's job. The fact it has any other function than making the phone look sexy is irrelevant.

I love the curved screen and it is what a smart phone should look like in this day and age. But obviously removing the headphone jack to make a phone thinner and cooler isn't a gimmick. People buy devices based on looks as they do clothes and cars and just about anything else.

 

[I7guy]

Okay ... and.... smartphones fall into this also.
I look back on what I saw / used / experienced growing up in the 60's till now. The smartphone is a blip. It did a good job of kicking off mobile into mainstream.

Porsche and 1901 ... didn't know that. When it was "invented" and when it became a realistic useful item (usually technologically driven) can be a bit diverse.

http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=642

Here's a blurb on it, kind of interesting.

 

[Black Magic]

Lol.. attacked from both sides... not sure if anyone around here bothers reading posts, but basically, Samsung being incredibly slow at releasing updates was my point in the first place. Thanks for agreeing with me c:

The other point was that when they DO release updates, they prioritise (by a long way) the latest gen. Where they can, they release the latest gen with the latest OS, as then it's a selling point. (The Note 5 won't get it for ages, I shouldn't think)
The new OS being 2 months away must have meant they didn't bother marketing it that way at all on that specific occasion.

But as usual for MacRumors, it's basically like talking to a wall (albeit quite an aggressive one). This is proving way too much effort for what was originally meant to be "hey guys that's quite a neat phone but bear in mind if you want your OS updates in a timely fashion you might want to consider a Nexus or iPhone instead"
Wish I'd never bothered

You can't fix stupid! Anyone who has had an android phone knows the lack of updates and fragmentation is a serious issue. Maybe Samsung fans have that reality distortion field?

Anyways, don't get worked up over it. Just rest in peace knowing next month you will be installing iOS 10 and many more future updates to come. Sleep tight!

 

[ryanwarsaw]

"You hacked a phone with the person's own fingerprint. Right"

Same concept as using the user's twitter info ( person's own fingerprint) to hack its account (hacked a phone). Hacking basically means getting info without someone's authority.

Here we go again, just search the dictionary.

I hacked into my own email account today, as well as my macr

People are going to look right tools when they hold their phone up in a queue to pay.

Think I'll stick with Touch ID

Does the phone not also have fingerprint scan on it? I assumed it has both negating most of these arguments about iris scans. So as others said you could have some apps that are more secure or perhaps in corporations certain things would require the iris protocol and normal things like unlocking would be done with touch id as it always has been.

 

[pika2000]

vr is definitely not a gimmick! please go try it and come back and report.its freaking awesome.

I was talking about the use of VR during the keynote itself. Have you watched the keynote? It was a gimmick FOR THE KEYNOTE, distracting attendees from the lame and boring content.

 

[Roykor]

Why you would want to write notes when you can type them. It is faster, text is searchable and more readable and you can do it with one hand.
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Yes Windows got better nowadays but it is still completely different OS. Different in fundamental level.

If the experience is just as good and my work gets done, even faster because of better hardware.. than i don't really care what the name of the OS is.

 

[admob71]

You can't fix stupid! Anyone who has had an android phone knows the lack of updates and fragmentation is a serious issue. Maybe Samsung fans have that reality distortion field?
!

Lol, a serious issue, priceless!!! Cancer is a serious issue!!!

If you don't get an update does mean your phone stops working? Erm.. nope.... the OS updates ow are quite small as all the core apps are updated via the play store all the time. Samsung are rolling out security updates all the time. Which is much more relevant.
Oh, and fragmentation. Not a concern. Almost all apps are after 4.4, almost all phones are after 4.4, ergo, 99% of apps work on 99% of Phones. Ain't been an issue for a long time.
Do you want a long spoon to reach that bottom corner of the barrel...

 

[The Game 161]

You can't fix stupid! Anyone who has had an android phone knows the lack of updates and fragmentation is a serious issue. Maybe Samsung fans have that reality distortion field?

Anyways, don't get worked up over it. Just rest in peace knowing next month you will be installing iOS 10 and many more future updates to come. Sleep tight!

Updates aren't anywhere near the level as what we get with IOS. The updates aren't that big of a difference and at the end of the day people upgrade for what Samsung brings not updates. Samsung are a lot better at updates than they used to be as well. I've had like 3 or 4 on my device already.

 

[Savor]

Note7 looks very nice but a slight upgrade of an S7 edge with an S-Pen. I like the shape of it.

Not interested though. Either iPhone 6se or LG steals me late with V20 announced next month.

"5.5 / 1080p (yay, no QHD)
4000 mAh battery (hopefully, removable)
Nougat
Cheaper subsidized price

LG for me if no 6se.

 

[Radon87000]

Holy crap.That AMOLED display looks like the iPhone display is something from 2010

 

[admob71]

Holy crap.That AMOLED display looks like the iPhone display is something from 2010

But mate.. the iPhone display is RETINA HD PLUS !!!! Wow!!!

 

[vladi]

I absolutely despise Android cause it's classical spyware and classical junk of a software built on all the wrong foundations that will never, ever be made right unless there is a complete rewrite but..

Note and Pen game is really what mobile devices are when it comes to efficiency and usability. Whole capacitive touch thing has skewed the field due to novelty of multi touch but PDA pioneers had it right from the get go with the pen.

I applaud Samsung for sticking with the pen and building up on experience every single time they make a revision. I do not applaud them for their cheesy plastic builds, lazy designs and bloatware on top of bloated software.

 

[The Game 161]

I absolutely despise Android cause it's classical spyware and classical junk of a software built on all the wrong foundations that will never, ever be made right unless there is a complete rewrite but..

Note and Pen game is really what mobile devices are when it comes to efficiency and usability. Whole capacitive touch thing has skewed the field due to novelty of multi touch but PDA pioneers had it right from the get go with the pen.

I applaud Samsung for sticking with the pen and building up on experience every single time they make a revision. I do not applaud them for their cheesy plastic builds, lazy designs and bloatware on top of bloated software.

Luckily those are days of the past

Now Samsung produce arguably the best designs out there

 

[EricTheHalfBee]

Well, considering a much weaker device is still faster, no additional comparison needs to be done for this app.

And? End users won't give a single crap about that. You're just bringing up anything that you can now.

Sorry, it's not, and you lying about one App supposedly being faster (without providing proof) doesn't change the fact the iPhone 6S Plus is the fastest phone in the world. Countless tests by people from numerous blogs/sites have confirmed this. Your single made-up scenario means nothing.

Sorry, but end users who want to do real work or be productive care about having powerful 64bit Apps. People who do nothing on their phones except Facebook and Instagram can get by just fine with an inferior device. Like your J7.

You guys are such hypocrites. Always lying that Android is for power users but when faced with the reality that the truly powerful 64bit Apps are only on iOS then you claim nobody needs them.

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Lol, a serious issue, priceless!!! Cancer is a serious issue!!!

If you don't get an update does mean your phone stops working? Erm.. nope.... the OS updates ow are quite small as all the core apps are updated via the play store all the time. Samsung are rolling out security updates all the time. Which is much more relevant.
Oh, and fragmentation. Not a concern. Almost all apps are after 4.4, almost all phones are after 4.4, ergo, 99% of apps work on 99% of Phones. Ain't been an issue for a long time.
Do you want a long spoon to reach that bottom corner of the barrel...

Wow, way to miss the issue altogether . Updates are needed to fix all the security flaws because Google Play Services can't update low-level portions of Android. So I guess you're fine with waiting months for a patch to plug an exploit? As long as you've got the latest versions of your core Apps?

Pathetic.
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But mate.. the iPhone display is RETINA HD PLUS !!!! Wow!!!

Too bad Android doesn't have color management to go with those AMOLED displays. Cartoon colors perfect for the kiddies.

 

[shanson27]

Looks thousand times better than the rumored iPhone 7 Apple shame on you

 

[admob71]

Sorry, it's not, and you lying about one App supposedly being faster (without providing proof) doesn't change the fact the iPhone 6S Plus is the fastest phone in the world. Countless tests by people from numerous blogs/sites have confirmed this. Your single made-up scenario means nothing.

Sorry, but end users who want to do real work or be productive care about having powerful 64bit Apps. People who do nothing on their phones except Facebook and Instagram can get by just fine with an inferior device. Like your J7.

You guys are such hypocrites. Always lying that Android is for power users but when faced with the reality that the truly powerful 64bit Apps are only on iOS then you claim nobody needs them.

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Wow, way to miss the issue altogether . Updates are needed to fix all the security flaws because Google Play Services can't update low-level portions of Android. So I guess you're fine with waiting months for a patch to plug an exploit? As long as you've got the latest versions of your core Apps?

Pathetic.
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Too bad Android doesn't have color management to go with those AMOLED displays. Cartoon colors perfect for the kiddies.

You say I've missed the issue after telling you Samsung are rolling out regular security updates, which you blatantly ignore, then you go on about how important security updates are. You sir are a piece of work. Do you come on here to vent your frustration at how lame the iPhone is compared to droid devices. It certainly seems that way. Read the above thread again, see how idiotic your response was. I await your reply.

PATHETIC!!

Oh, nicely ignored displaymate report the the galaxy s6/s7 are 100% colour accurate. Perfect, they called it. Which you know full well. Once again, just spouting BS.

PATHETIC!!
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I do not applaud them for their cheesy plastic builds, lazy designs

What did you make of the 5c? , and the same iphone.6 design for the 3rd yr running. Just saying.. lol

 

[EricTheHalfBee]

You say I've missed the issue after telling you Samsung are rolling out regular security updates, which you blatantly ignore, then you go on about how important security updates are. You sir are a piece of work. Do you come on here to vent your frustration at how lame the iPhone is compared to droid devices. It certainly seems that way. Read the above thread again, see how idiotic your response was. I await your reply.

PATHETIC!!

Oh, nicely ignored displaymate report the the galaxy s6/s7 are 100% colour accurate. Perfect, they called it. Which you know full well. Once again, just spouting BS.

PATHETIC!!

And which Samsung devices are getting updates every 30 days? All of them? Only devices under one year old? Only flagships for xx amount of time and all others for yy amount of time? And you think waiting 30 days to fix an exploit is acceptable (best case scenario)?

I think you should go back and read what Displaymate tests and what color management is before opening your mouth again. A wide gamut and the ABILITY to reproduce colors does not mean that content will be rendered correctly. That's up to the OS, not the display.

BTW, I'm not frustrated. I just enjoy dismantling the trolls.

 

[Black Magic]

You say I've missed the issue after telling you Samsung are rolling out regular security updates, which you blatantly ignore, then you go on about how important security updates are. You sir are a piece of work. Do you come on here to vent your frustration at how lame the iPhone is compared to droid devices. It certainly seems that way. Read the above thread again, see how idiotic your response was. I await your reply.

PATHETIC!!

Oh, nicely ignored displaymate report the the galaxy s6/s7 are 100% colour accurate. Perfect, they called it. Which you know full well. Once again, just spouting BS.

PATHETIC!!
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What did you make of the 5c? , and the same iphone.6 design for the 3rd yr running. Just saying.. lol

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fcc-inquiry-android-updates_us_5731fc16e4b096e9f092ac51

 

[melendezest]

Lol.. attacked from both sides... not sure if anyone around here bothers reading posts, but basically, Samsung being incredibly slow at releasing updates was my point in the first place. Thanks for agreeing with me c:

The other point was that when they DO release updates, they prioritise (by a long way) the latest gen. Where they can, they release the latest gen with the latest OS, as then it's a selling point. (The Note 5 won't get it for ages, I shouldn't think)
The new OS being 2 months away must have meant they didn't bother marketing it that way at all on that specific occasion.

But as usual for MacRumors, it's basically like talking to a wall (albeit quite an aggressive one). This is proving way too much effort for what was originally meant to be "hey guys that's quite a neat phone but bear in mind if you want your OS updates in a timely fashion you might want to consider a Nexus or iPhone instead"
Wish I'd never bothered

It is sad how harsh things get. Sorry about that.

Now about updates: I for one don't need the "latest and the greatest" Android updates immediately. That seems to not be the case with iPhone; you want the updates so you get functionality you're either "missing" or wanting.

My Note5 is so functional and customizable out-of-the-box that updates are relatively superfluous (with the exception of Security updates...those never are). And on T-Mobile I don't have to wait that long for the latest Android version, but again, I'm not looking for it anyhow.

Thus, I can do ANYTHING I can think of and (almost) EVERYTHING I want to (no IR blaster, expandable storage, or waterproofing ) with my Note5.

Sadly, the iPhone is not even close; I would have loved it if they did everything Sammy does just so I could get better integration with my Macs.

But standalone? Device-vs-device? It's not even a contest for me.

I'd have to give things up to go iPhone again, which right now is not feasible for me given the way I use my device.

 

[Black Magic]

It is sad how harsh things get. Sorry about that.

Now about updates: I for one don't need the "latest and the greatest" Android updates immediately. That seems to not be the case with iPhone; you want the updates so you get functionality you're either "missing" or wanting.

My Note5 is so functional and customizable out-of-the-box that updates are relatively superfluous (with the exception of Security updates...those never are). And on T-Mobile I don't have to wait that long for the latest Android version, but again, I'm not looking for it anyhow.

Thus, I can do ANYTHING I can think of and (almost) EVERYTHING I want to (no IR blaster, expandable storage, or waterproofing ) with my Note5.

Sadly, the iPhone is not even close; I would have loved it if they did everything Sammy does just so I could get better integration with my Macs.

But standalone? Device-vs-device? It's not even a contest for me.

I'd have to give things up to go iPhone again, which right now is not feasible for me given the way I use my device.

Security updates are the main issue. Added functionality and features are a bonus. You should not need to buy a new device to get the latest security updates. Especially when some vulnerabilities are high risk.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/17/stagefright_aslr_bypass/

 

[melendezest]

Security updates are the main issue. Added functionality and features are a bonus. You should not need to buy a new device to get the latest security updates. Especially when some vulnerabilities are high risk.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/17/stagefright_aslr_bypass/

OK, so the defining reason you have an iPhone is because of Security Updates? If so, more power to you.

I know this sounds weird, but "safe-enough" is safe enough for me. I get plenty of Security Updates so I cannot speak to their timeliness, but I can say with certainty that I do not have to buy a new device to get them.

I am smart about what I do with my devices, and I don't live in fear either because nothing is really, truly safe. It really is all luck-of-the-draw in this wild west of technology.

In 4 years of using Android in the mobile space, I'm still good to go. Knock on wood.