This is actually a perfect analogy, as prior art already defined square with rounded corners and icons aligned in a grid on phones, tablets, etc. Apple just managed to make them popular.
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Samsung Demands Another Retrial, Says 'No Reasonable Jury' Could Have Sided With Apple
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Then it's over. To do anything else would unconstitutionally violate Double Jeopardy, no?
Again, the fact you ignore the innovation doesn't mean it's not there.
The iPhone X is not dated....it's one of if not the only phone available with no bottom bezel because the display is folded and the display controller is under the screen. Even the new "bezelless" Vivo Nex has a chin and a stupid, clumsy pop up selfie camera.
No one has matched Face ID's security 30,000+ data points and 3D sensing (though many in the industry are trying to play catch up).
AirPods, Watch, and even iPads with their industry leading screens are not dated. Apple makes the best tablets, by far. You don't need decals and spoilers when your products are simply the best.
Apples A-Series processors are industry leading and not dated.
The MacBooks are fine. Updated processors..what more do you want in a laptop? People criticized "gimmicks" like the TouchBar. Just make them faster.
No to mention I had live photos for years on my windows phones before they were a iPhone thing.
Serious error like that "copying something protected by a design patent should only result in a fine against the part that was copied, not the entire phone including the cpu, ram, memory, etc."?
The supreme Court has already said (in a 8-0 decision, meaning all the supreme Court judges agreed with Samsung) the case of Samsung vs Apple should only result in a fine against the part that was copied, not the entire value of the phone.
The supreme Court already said Apple getting $400mil was too much. How can a $539 mil decision from the jury be right?
http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2016/12/06/supreme-court-apple-samsung-ismartphone-design-patent/id=75434/
"That's outrageous! No reasonable jury could possibly disagree with my opinions! I'm absolutely a perfectly flawless negotiator and a highly persuasive presenter, and everyone always sees things my way, in the end!"
Sure, Samsung. I'm pretty sure that every single losing lawyer, ever, has said some variation of that line before, when pressing their request for an appeal.
Sure, Samsung. I'm pretty sure that every single losing lawyer, ever, has said some variation of that line before, when pressing their request for an appeal.
It wasn't a fine. It was compensatory damages. Big difference.
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They actually HAVE done that to a VERY large extent, starting several years ago.
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Exactly.
Samsung participated in same voir dire (Jury Selection) process as Apple did. So, if the jury was "unreasonable", it is only because Samsung didn't reject the jurors they didn't like.
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Exactly!
Japan - Apple lost
Korea - Apple lost
UK - Apple lost, had to swallow pride and acknowledge publicly that Samsung did not infringe.
Netherlands - Apple lost
USA however... it turns out rounded corners, animation, packaging and placement of items inside a box are big innovations..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._v._Samsung_Electronics_Co.
Korea - Apple lost
UK - Apple lost, had to swallow pride and acknowledge publicly that Samsung did not infringe.
Netherlands - Apple lost
USA however... it turns out rounded corners, animation, packaging and placement of items inside a box are big innovations..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._v._Samsung_Electronics_Co.
A decent and intelligent Judge would have thrown these stupid Samsuck lawyers in jail for contempt of court by now. They are really abusing and gaming the legal system beyond contempt.
I'm well aware of that, however I think it's still worth pointing out that Apple's entire direction as a company and product line did a 180 change after Xerox, period. Some of the comments seen here seem hypocritical with complete disregard of what happened with Apple.
There are plenty of references at folklore.org of Apple trying to remember the Xerox demo to replicate what they saw even if later it evolved into something else, the core idea was the goal of replicating somehow.
All I'm saying is lets bring some sense into this, copying rounded corners and colorful icon grids is NOTHING compared to what Apple got from Xerox GUI. If anything the true transgresor is Google for Android, not Samsung. That's why asking for 1 billion in damages is complete lunacy.
You missed the point. The vast majority of folks posting in here seem to think that Apple has never "copied". That is the context of my comment... someone trying to point out that Apple never copied anything. I would say with the iPhone that they have followed on as many things as they've created. But that is not a popular opinion at MR.
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Look at the USB charger, the packaging, the icons themselves, hell look at the memo by Samsung details what they should be copying. Apple PAID Xerox.
Samsung copies, and no use Apple products, they have been done by other companies too.
And you will note that all the other phones with "round corners" were not sued because the copying goes far far deeper than just the corners.
My point is that it's far worse in South Korea than it is in most other countries. People say Samsung is one of the most corrupt businesses on the planet, but they're actually pretty normal for South Korea, where corrupt business practices are par for the course, and almost expected.
iPhone X is pretty much a duplicate of the S8 series as one example.
Adding video recording to the iPhone copied Samsung doing it on their smartphones first.
If Vivo had used a notch, they would have still had a minimal bottom bezel like the X and lets be honest here, the X has a large bezel around the whole phone, it just doesn't have a chin.
Give me a clumsy pop up selfie cam any day over a notch, I hardly use a selfie cam and fingerprint scanners are faster, especially when embedded into the almost full (98%) screen.
Seriously, would you prefer no bezel to a notch?
In my opinion, the notch is an aberration and ironically, it will be what differentiates Samsung and the from Essential (who did it first) and Apple and all the other notched devices.
I'm not saying the X looks dated but compared to the Vivo it certainly doesn't look like edge to edge to me.
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The notch includes features the other phone doesn't have, such as FaceID, so it's not apples to apples.If Vivo had used a notch, they would have still had a minimal bottom bezel like the X and lets be honest here, the X has a large bezel around the whole phone, it just doesn't have a chin.
Give me a clumsy pop up selfie cam any day over a notch, I hardly use a selfie cam and fingerprint scanners are faster, especially when embedded into the almost full (98%) screen.
Seriously, would you prefer no bezel to a notch?
In my opinion, the notch is an aberration and ironically, it will be what differentiates Samsung and the from Essential (who did it first) and Apple and all the other notched devices.
I'm not saying the X looks dated but compared to the Vivo it certainly doesn't look like edge to edge to me.
I like FaceID, a lot. I also use the front facing camera plenty. A front camera is pretty much necessary on a smartphone today. Most everyone uses them, I would suspect.
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So you're going to completely ignore the depth capabilities the FaceID has that no other camera system currently has?
Your glib response makes it seem like you fundamentally don't understand what differentiates FaceID (and the camera API's that come with it) from other front facing cameras.
No, I've read the pro's and cons, I understand alright.
It's just that a fingerprint scanner is more reliable and quicker, I'd imaging having it embedded in the screen would only make the experience even better.
The notch is hideous, its not a good trade off in my glib opinion.
Application Programming Interface? Really?